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David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by onila(f): 10:37pm On Dec 06, 2013
David Cameron of Britain is putting on quite a show. In 1985 he was a top member of the Federation of Conservative Students, who produced the "hang Mandela" posters.
In 1989 Cameron worked in the Tory Policy Unit at Central Office and went on a anti-sanctions fact finding mission to South Africa with pro-apartheid Lobby Firm that was sponsored by Botha.


Thanks to the person who exposed this hypocritical actor. The ones who supported the Apartheid system are now mourning Mandela and acting like they cared about him.

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Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by ayobase(m): 11:22pm On Dec 06, 2013
They are all beneficiaries of Mandela's forgiving spirit.
the past was the past!
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by Fulaman198(m): 11:24pm On Dec 06, 2013
There are a lot of 2 faced people in this world, that is all I can say
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 4:52am On Dec 07, 2013
White bigotry they are always against anything black .

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Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 4:53am On Dec 07, 2013
Withe corporate the most

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Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by dBard: 6:32pm On Dec 07, 2013
It's almost always pretense n false intentions in white n black politics

Themourning bandwagon rides on..

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Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by Fulaman198(m): 7:11pm On Dec 07, 2013
dBard: It's almost always pretense n false intentions in white n black politics

Themourning bandwagon rides on..

Lol so true
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by cap28: 1:50am On Dec 08, 2013
As Ive said before and will continue to say Cameron is nothing more than a two faced pi.ece of shi.t who is basically nothing more than a political prostitute- for sale to the highest bidder. Cameron and his cronies are merely puppets of the international banking cartels and the corporations they have no idea what democracy, justice and equality mean they just use these words as sound bites to fool the mugs who still believe in their fraudulent and corrupt system of govt.

another article highlighting the hypocrisy of these western scumbags:

The Day Mandela Was Arrested, With A Little Help From the CIA

By Jeff Stein / December 05 2013 6:20 PM

One of the great things about the late great Nelson Mandela is that he didn’t hold grudges.

How else could he have accepted normal relations with the CIA, which tipped off the white-supremacy regime to his whereabouts in 1962?

According to a 1990 Johannesburg Sunday Times newspaper account, a CIA agent by the name of Millard Shirley fingered Mandela for the apartheid regime’s secret police, allowing them to throw up a roadblock and capture him.

“Shirley had a high-ranking ‘deep throat,’ a Durban-based Indian, within South African Communist party ranks,” Gerard Ludi, a retired senior South African intelligence agent told the paper.

“I can only guess that Shirley was instructed by his government to supply the information to the South Africans because it was in America’s interest to have Mr. Mandela out of the way.”

A dozen years later, Ludi told me in 1996, he went into business with Shirley, who had officially retired from the CIA. Naturally, they ran a private security business.

Then, in 1985, came the call from a secret South African government unit called Stratcom (Strategic Communications), whose function was to disrupt and destroy anti-apartheid groups, I reported for Salon. Shirley was hired to train the unit’s operatives and develop a covert operations training manual.

My Salon story continued:

“The South African intelligence services didn’t have decent training materials,” Ludi said. “They asked Millard to update and do a proper training manual. He did it for a year off and on for a year.”

Asked whether his friend was still working for the CIA at that point, Ludi answered, “Who knows? Shirley tried to retire many times, but the CIA kept calling him back to duty. We gave him about 20 retirement parties.”

According to Mike Leach, who also worked for Stratcom, the manuals used by Shirley had U.S. Department of Defense stamped on their covers. But Shirley’s activities went beyond designing training manuals, according to Leach.

“One of the things Shirley did during the negotiations with unions was to doctor the water on the table with chemicals to induce stomach cramps, to bring about a point where the union officials would want to hurry up the negotiations and just settle because they were physically uncomfortable.”

Another trick was to launder anti-apartheid T-shirts in a fiberglass solution and hand them out to demonstrators, who would soon be convulsed in uncontrollable itching.

The Stratcom unit also intercepted foreign donations to anti-apartheid groups, then sent back thank-you notes on phony letterheads and put the money into more “psychological warfare operations,” said Leach.

The CIA’s involvement in these activities is unclear, but Leach claims the agency sent South Africans to a facility in Taiwan for advanced psychological warfare training. The Telcom auditing official called the CIA’s alleged wiretap training “very sinister.” He suspects the CIA used the program to develop its own spies in Telcom, to protect its assets in the country at this time.

“The American government wanted to know which way the cookie would crumble,” he said
http://www.newsweek.com/day-mandela-was-arrested-little-help-cia-223935

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Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by Fulaman198(m): 1:58am On Dec 08, 2013
cap28: As Ive said before and will continue to say Cameron is nothing more than a two faced pi.ece of shi.t who is basically nothing more than a political prostitute- for sale to the highest bidder. Cameron and his cronies are merely puppets of the international banking cartels and the corporations they have no idea what democracy, justice and equality mean they just use these words as sound bites to fool the mugs who still believe in their fraudulent and corrupt system of govt.

another article highlighting the hypocrisy of these western scumbags:

The Day Mandela Was Arrested, With A Little Help From the CIA

By Jeff Stein / December 05 2013 6:20 PM

One of the great things about the late great Nelson Mandela is that he didn’t hold grudges.

How else could he have accepted normal relations with the CIA, which tipped off the white-supremacy regime to his whereabouts in 1962?

According to a 1990 Johannesburg Sunday Times newspaper account, a CIA agent by the name of Millard Shirley fingered Mandela for the apartheid regime’s secret police, allowing them to throw up a roadblock and capture him.

“Shirley had a high-ranking ‘deep throat,’ a Durban-based Indian, within South African Communist party ranks,” Gerard Ludi, a retired senior South African intelligence agent told the paper.

“I can only guess that Shirley was instructed by his government to supply the information to the South Africans because it was in America’s interest to have Mr. Mandela out of the way.”

A dozen years later, Ludi told me in 1996, he went into business with Shirley, who had officially retired from the CIA. Naturally, they ran a private security business.

Then, in 1985, came the call from a secret South African government unit called Stratcom (Strategic Communications), whose function was to disrupt and destroy anti-apartheid groups, I reported for Salon. Shirley was hired to train the unit’s operatives and develop a covert operations training manual.

My Salon story continued:

“The South African intelligence services didn’t have decent training materials,” Ludi said. “They asked Millard to update and do a proper training manual. He did it for a year off and on for a year.”

Asked whether his friend was still working for the CIA at that point, Ludi answered, “Who knows? Shirley tried to retire many times, but the CIA kept calling him back to duty. We gave him about 20 retirement parties.”

According to Mike Leach, who also worked for Stratcom, the manuals used by Shirley had U.S. Department of Defense stamped on their covers. But Shirley’s activities went beyond designing training manuals, according to Leach.

“One of the things Shirley did during the negotiations with unions was to doctor the water on the table with chemicals to induce stomach cramps, to bring about a point where the union officials would want to hurry up the negotiations and just settle because they were physically uncomfortable.”

Another trick was to launder anti-apartheid T-shirts in a fiberglass solution and hand them out to demonstrators, who would soon be convulsed in uncontrollable itching.

The Stratcom unit also intercepted foreign donations to anti-apartheid groups, then sent back thank-you notes on phony letterheads and put the money into more “psychological warfare operations,” said Leach.

The CIA’s involvement in these activities is unclear, but Leach claims the agency sent South Africans to a facility in Taiwan for advanced psychological warfare training. The Telcom auditing official called the CIA’s alleged wiretap training “very sinister.” He suspects the CIA used the program to develop its own spies in Telcom, to protect its assets in the country at this time.

“The American government wanted to know which way the cookie would crumble,” he said
http://www.newsweek.com/day-mandela-was-arrested-little-help-cia-223935

Well said
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by cap28: 2:06am On Dec 08, 2013
Another article exposing the utter two faced hypocrisy of these monsters:



The Hypocrisy on Mandela is Palpable

John Glaser, December 06, 2013


Today you can watch much of the world praise the life and mourn the death of former South African President anti-apartheid leader Nelson Mandela. Scores of U.S. leaders and political pundits with platforms to reach millions of Americans are expressing admiration for Mandela today, but I have barely seen a single acknowledgement of the fact that the U.S. strongly opposed Mandela’s struggle and strongly supported the white supremacist apartheid system in South Africa. There has been almost no mention in the mainstream that Mandela remained on the U.S.’s terrorism watch list until 2008. Mandela spent 27 years in prison, thanks in part to the CIA assisting the apartheid regime’s secret police in his arrest.

This white-washing mostly occurs on television. Cable news is especially vapid. There are a few exceptions in print/digital media. One comes from Peter Beinhart:


In the 1980s, Ronald Reagan placed Mandela’s African National Congress on America’s official list of “terrorist” groups. In 1985, then-Congressman Dick Cheney voted againsta resolution urging that he be released from jail. In 2004, after Mandela criticized the Iraq War, an article in National Review said his “vicious anti-Americanism and support for Saddam Hussein should come as no surprise, given his longstanding dedication to communism and praise for terrorists.” As late as 2008, the ANC remained on America’s terrorism watch list, thus requiring the 89-year-old Mandela to receive a special waiver from the secretary of State to visit the U.S.

…In South Africa, for decades, American presidents backed apartheid in the name of anti-communism. Indeed, the language of the Cold War proved so morally corrupting that in 1981, Reagan, without irony, called South Africa’s monstrous regime “essential to the free world.”

Believe it or not, there is an aspect of this hypocritical praise of Mandela that is mentioned even less than the media coverage of his passing. That is the uncomfortable similarity that Israel’s occupation of Palestine now has with the apartheid regime in South Africa.

The Times of Israel reported last February that Alon Liel, a former Israeli Foreign Ministry director-general and ex-ambassador to South Africa, believes Israel currently qualifies as an apartheid state. “In the situation that exists today, until a Palestinian state is created, we are actually one state. This joint state — in the hope that the status quo is temporary — is an apartheid state,” Liel said in Jerusalem.

Israel’s plan for military occupation of the West Bank and ongoing settlement construction for Israeli-only areas, was compared to South African apartheid by former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon himself, who actually used the word “bantustan” to describe the separating of Palestinians into cantons.

Here is a Haaretz piece from 2003 reporting on Sharon’s reference of the Bantustans:


Sharon’s map is surprisingly similar to the plan for protectorates in South Africa in the early 1960s. Even the number of cantons is the same – 10 in the West Bank (and one more in Gaza). Dr. Alon Liel, a former Israeli ambassador to South Africa, notes that the South Africans only managed to create four of their 10 planned Bantustans.

The Bantustan model, says Liel, was the ugliest of all the tricks used to perpetuate the apartheid regime in most of South Africa’s territory.

So the hypocrisy on Mandela isn’t just a case of an ugly past that we’ve now learned from (and erased). Rather, that kind of hypocrisy in U.S. foreign policy is still going on today. One wonders how much of that history will be erased when Israeli apartheid becomes as universally opposed as South African apartheid.

http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/12/06/the-hypocrisy-on-mandela-is-palpable/

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Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by cap28: 2:17am On Dec 08, 2013
Nelson Mandela Tributes Expose Hypocrisy of Developed World

The death of Nelson Mandela this week produced thousands of glowing tributes from celebrities, world leaders and politicians from across the political spectrum.


After spending three decades in jail in his struggle to free South Africa from apartheid and leading the country as its first black president, Mandela is now almost universally lauded as a moral icon.

Yet at one time those now falling over each other to express their adulation for 'Madiba' were not quite as forthcoming in their praise.

Here is a small selection of global figures who have changed their tune.


David Cameron and the Conservative party
"A great light has gone out in the world," said Cameron this week. Mandela was "a towering figure in our time; a legend in life and now in death - a true global hero", the UK prime minister said.


However, it was revealed recently that in the 1980s Cameron took off on a "jolly" to South Africa while Mandela was still in jail, with all expenses paid by a firm that lobbied against sanctions being imposed on the apartheid regime.

Cameron's Conservative party repeatedly refused to back sanctions in the 1980s, and in a speech then prime minister Margaret Thatcher called Mandela's ANC party a "a typical terrorist organisation".

"Hang Nelson Mandela" badges were produced by the now defunct Tory youth wing when current speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow was chairman.

On Thursday, Bercow tweeted: "He was Tata, father, to us all. His extraordinary commitment to democracy, peace and the fight against injustice has motivated generations to stand up for freedom."

One Tory grandee from the 1980s remains unrepentant.

"He was the leader of a political movement which had begun to resort to terrorism," Lord Tebbit, former Conservative party Chairman told the Daily Mirror.

George W Bush and the Republican party
The former US president declared Mandela "one of the great forces for freedom and equality of our time," when news of his death broke, but as recently as 2008 the ANC was still listed as a terrorist organisation by the US State Department, and Mandela had to be given special permission to visit the country.

Republican party hero president Ronald Reagan was firmly opposed to sanctions being imposed against the apartheid regime, and in a 1981 interview, with no trace of irony, declared South Africa to be "essential to the free world," before placing the ANC on the terror blacklist.

Dick Cheney, who went on to become Bush's vice-president, voted against a bill calling for the release of Mandela. "I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago," Cheney told ABC this week, but went on to call Mandela a "great man" who had "mellowed with age".

After Mandela criticised the US invasion of Iraq under Bush in 2004, a writer in the right-wing National Review opined that Mandela's "vicious anti-Americanism and support for Saddam Hussein should come as no surprise, given his longstanding dedication to communism and praise for terrorists".

Sepp Blatter
In his statement following Mandela's death, the Fifa president paid tribute to "an extraordinary person, probably one of the greatest humanists of our time".

However, during the 2010 World Cup in South Africa Mandela - who was in mourning for his 13-year-old great granddaughter, who had died in a car accident - was placed under extreme pressure by Blatter to appear at the tournament's final, according to the Mandela family.

At the draw for the finals of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil on Friday, Blatter interrupted a minute's silence he had called to mark Mandela's death after 10 seconds, declaring: "Let's celebrate humanity, celebrate Nelson Mandela and most of all celebrate football. Applaud please!"

Blatter has faced calls to resign after stating in 2011 that players who are racially abused by opponents should sort out their problems "with a handshake", and refusing to back calls for clubs that fail to clamp down on supporters' racist behaviour to be penalised.

Elton John
Mention should also go to Sir Elton John, who serenaded Mandela with a version of Happy Birthday at a special concert held in his honour in 2008.

Yet in 1983, at the height of apartheid, Sir Elton was happy to accept thousands of dollars to play at South Africa's Sun City casino resort.

Two years later the Sun City album was released by Artists United Against Apartheid, which featured musicians including Bruce Springsteen, Miles Davis and U2, and raised more than $1 million for anti-apartheid projects.

"You can't buy me, I don't care what you pay. Don't ask me Sun City because I ain't gonna play," they sang on the title track.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/528290/20131207/nelson-mandela-hypocrisy-hypocrites-david-cameron-geroge.htm

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Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by Fulaman198(m): 2:38am On Dec 08, 2013
Thank you for sharing my friend
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 2:58am On Dec 08, 2013
This is why I was talking about, double faced and hypocrite animals/pigs . Tribute to Mandela my foot .
Thanks cap28 you just confirmed what I have always said, white people don't like you and they will do everything to throw sticks in your wheels.

They hate to see Africans/African countries emerging , they are scared, they know their place is under our boots ,that's why they don't hesitate to assassinate our saviors like lumumba , sankara etc .
They don't hesitate to sabotage our industrial and technological efforts and are ready to spend money to maintain puppet governments/leaders all over our continent
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by cap28: 4:47am On Dec 08, 2013
CAMNEWTON4PRES: This is why I was talking about, double faced and hypocrite animals/pigs . Tribute to Mandela my foot .
Thanks cap28 you just confirmed what I have always said, white people don't like you and they will do everything to throw sticks in your wheels.

They hate to see Africans/African countries emerging , they are scared, they know their place is under our boots ,that's why they don't hesitate to assassinate our saviors like lumumba , sankara etc .
They don't hesitate to sabotage our industrial and technological efforts and are ready to spend money to maintain puppet governments/leaders all over our continent

very true
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by cap28: 4:50am On Dec 08, 2013
Palpable hypocrisy: Vultures feed off Mandela’s memory!

Posted on 7 December 2013 by truthaholics


The vultures feeding off Mandela’s memory ~ Nureddin Sabir, Editor, Redress Information & Analysis.

The death of Nelson Mandela, the world’s most revered fighter for freedom, justice and dignity, has been met with genuine, spontaneous sadness all over the world.

Whether it is because of Mandela’s selfless sacrifice for his people, his 27 years of perseverance in the face of adversity or his willingness to forgive his wicked incarcerators, millions of people in all corners of the world are genuinely grief stricken at the passing of this giant of giants. They mourn not only the huge gap he leaves behind, but also the fact that the standards of decency he had set are unlikely to be met by any living politician. As Archbishop Desmond Tutu says,


…he will go down in history as South Africa’s George Washington, a person who within a single five-year presidency became the principal icon of both liberation and reconciliation, loved by those of all political persuasions as the founder of modern, democratic South Africa…

[T]he crucible of excruciating suffering which he had endured purged the dross, the anger, the temptation to any desire for revenge, honing his spirit and transforming him into an icon of magnanimity. He used his enormous moral stature to good effect in persuading his party and many in the black community, especially young people, that accommodation and compromise were the way to achieve our goal of democracy and justice for all.

The hypocrites and vultures

But there are also the hypocrites and vultures seeking to feed off the outpouring of emotion unleashed by Mandela’s death. At the top of the list of these scoundrels are, as one would expect, Israeli, US and British politicians. As Ami Kaufman says in +972 Magazine, “Israeli politicians have begun updating their Facebook pages with eulogies for the late Nelson Mandela,” and, he asks: “What do statesmen of the Jewish state – one of the last Western countries to support the South African apartheid state and which today practises apartheid-like policies between the [Jordan] river and the [Mediterranean] sea – have to say about the man who brought racism to its knees? (You can read what these despicable bigots have to say in Kaufman’s article here.)

Indeed, as Juan Cole points out,


The attempt to make Nelson Mandela respectable is an ongoing effort of Western government spokesmen and the Western media.

He wasn’t respectable in the business circles of 20th-century New York or Atlanta, or inside the Beltway of Washington, DC. He wasn’t respectable for many of the allies of the United States in the Cold War, including Britain and Israel.

Cole reminds us of the facts which the forked-tongued hypocrites in the US and among its Israeli and European allies would rather we forget:


The US considered the African National Congress to be a form of communism, and sided with the racist prime ministers Hendrik Verwoerd and P.W. Botha against Mandela.

Decades later, in the 1980s, the United States was still supporting the white apartheid government of South Africa, where a tiny minority of Afrikaners dominated the economy and refused to allow black Africans to shop in their shops or fraternize with them, though they were happy to employ them in the mines. Ronald Reagan declared Nelson Mandela, then still in jail, a terrorist, and the US did not get around to removing him from the list until 2008! Reagan, while delivering pro forma denunciations of apartheid or enforced black separation and subjugation, nevertheless opposed sanctions with teeth on Pretoria. Reagan let the racist authoritarian P.W. Botha come to Washington and met with him.

Likewise British PM Margaret Thatcher befriended Botha and castigated Mandela’s ANC [African National Congress] as terrorists. As if the Afrikaners weren’t terrorizing the black majority!…

The Israeli government had extremely warm relations with apartheid South Africa, to the point where Tel Aviv offered the Afrikaners a nuclear weapon(presumably for brandishing at the leftist states of black Africa). That the Israelis accuse Iran of being a nuclear proliferator is actually hilarious if you know the history. Iran doesn’t appear ever to have attempted to construct a nuclear weapon, whereas Israel has hundreds and seems entirely willing to share.

In the US, the vehemently anti-Palestinian Anti-Defamation League in San Francisco spied on American anti-apartheid activists on behalf of the apartheid state. If the ADL ever calls you a racist, you can revel in the irony.

Ronald Reagan imagined that there were “moderates” in the Botha government. There weren’t. He wanted “constructive engagement” with them. It failed.

Principles vs unscrupulousness

Mandela subscribed to a value system a world apart from that of the Western and Israeli vultures now seeking to make political capital by heaping praise on him,postmortem. He, as Cole says, “was a socialist who believed in the ideal of economic equality or at least of a decent life for everyone in society. He was also a believer in parliamentary government. So, he was a democratic socialist.” They, on the other hard, are out and out capitalists, the spokesmen and slaves of global corporations and, in the case of the Israelis quoted by Kaufman, racists, bigots, land thieves and squatters.



is a pioneer to be emulated. We honour him by standing up for justice even in the face of enormous opposition from the rich and powerful, by taking risks for high ideals. We won’t meet his standards. But if all of us tried, we’d make the world better. As he did.

http://truthaholics./2013/12/07/palpable-hypocrisy-vultures-feed-off-mandelas-memory/
Re: David Cameron Used To Be Against Mandela! by cap28: 2:37pm On Dec 08, 2013

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