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A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 1:38am On Dec 22, 2013 |
NOT MADE BY NATURE! Just because something exists in nature doesn't mean it was invented or made by Nature. If all the chemicals necessary to make a cell were left to themselves, "Mother Nature" would have no ability to organize them into a cell. It takes an already existing cell to bring about another cell. The cell exists and reproduces in nature but Nature didn't invent or design it! Nature didn't originate the cell or any form of life. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about an airplane or a cell. Once you have a complete and living cell then the genetic program and biological machinery exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how could the cell have originated naturally when no directing code and mechanisms existed in nature? All of the founders of modern science believed in God. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from sea sponge to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Survival of the fittest would actually have prevented evolution across kinds! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! (2nd Edition). I discuss: Punctuated Equilibria, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species. Natural selection doesn't produce biological traits or variations. It can only "select" from biological variations that are possible and which have survival value. The real issue is what biological variations are possible, not natural selection. Only limited evolution, variations of already existing genes and traits are possible. Nature is mindless and has no ability to design and program entirely new genes for entirely new traits. What about genetic and biological similarities between species? Genetic information, like other forms of information, cannot happen by chance, so it is more logical to believe that genetic and biological similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These "non- coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (i.e. when, where, and how genes are expressed). Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM Read my popular Internet article, HOW DID MY DNA MAKE ME? Visit my newest Internet site: THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION Sincerely, Babu G. Ranganathan* (B.A. theology/biology) |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 1:41am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Seriously, I do not think there is anybody that is an Atheist. I believe we only have people that have managed to deceive themselves that they are Atheists. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 1:43am On Dec 22, 2013 |
This author has said things that I might have said if I was idle enough to engage Atheists. No need for me to do that, he has done a decent job. http://science.time.com/2013/12/20/critters-so-ugly-they-have-to-mate-with-themselves/slide/komodo-dragons/ |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 1:44am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: what does this have to do with 72 virgins? You tell me, I would like to know too. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by AlfaSeltzer(m): 1:47am On Dec 22, 2013 |
maclatunji: I'm not a muslim. You are. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by texanomaly(f): 2:54am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Interesting stuff. I'll check out your articles and your website. I've always believed that science proves creation, rather than disproves it. Thanks. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 3:23am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Babu G. Ranganathan*Well i expect one who studied theology to be biased when it comes to the issue of creation. Heres is one of the comments on the site: Oh golly gee you have a B.A. in Biology from the University of Funkytown? I suppose Oxford Biology Professor Richard Dawkins was wrong after all. Someone should give him a call! |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Mynd44: 4:06am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer:Watch it |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 5:02am On Dec 22, 2013 |
This thread should be closed. Not one atom of sense in the op "evolution of kinds" "forensic science refutes atheism" This thread contains false information 1) Atheism is not evolution 2) Science can not and does not refute atheism. 1 Like |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by texanomaly(f): 5:05am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Logicboy03: This thread should be closed. Such veheminence in your declaration LB. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by plaetton: 5:23am On Dec 22, 2013 |
maclatunji: NOT MADE BY NATURE! Just because Complete self-serving baloney, especially coming from a theologist. What do can we really expect from a theologist except convoluted logic to reinforce a dogmatic belief? These talks of the improbability of this and improbability of that stems from a lack of real understanding of statistical analysis. Also , I find it funny that the writer says " Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible ". Wow, so the writer does accept evolution, but now wants to define it's limits?. I rest my case. 3 Likes |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by cyrexx: 6:08am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Interesting, so religion is now in support of evolutionary biology. I thought they said their God created everything as it is within six days. This is interesting. Did Quran or Bible teach you about DNA or forensic sciences? So what do you have to say about the evolutionary history of prehistoric men who roamed the earth millions of years ago(as evidenced by fossils) , long before your Adam and Eve story? Or did your holy books talk about this too? 2 Likes |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Brimmie(m): 6:15am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 6:16am On Dec 22, 2013 |
^Your case is no case at all. So far, I see ad hominems and no attempt to logically disprove his excellent analysis. This is an analogy of what Atheists are saying: 1. I am an intelligent being. 2. I come from nothing. We say: 1, Nothing is zero. 2. Zero is unitelligent Conclusion: 1. You say you come from nothing 2. Nothing is zero 3. And zero is unintelligent 4. Therefore you have no intelligence because you are essentially zero. Rebuttal: 1. You insist you are intelligent 2. We say you must have come from something intelligent to have intelligence. In essence, an Atheist insults himself as "nothing" everytime he says he has no creator. As for evolution, re-read the OP again. If you do not get it, then there is little need engaging you as you might never get it. -QED 4 Likes |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 6:19am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Intellectually weak people insult others when they have nothing convincing to present. It does not take much to crush the concept of Atheism. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by cyrexx: 6:34am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Cyrexx : You are free to ban me if you like cos that's what you are very good at. 7 Likes |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 6:47am On Dec 22, 2013 |
I would be shocked if anyone does not believe in microevolution: which basically means that animals and plants can experience minor changes over time but not to the extent that an amoeba would become a human being. That is just laughable. Through microevolution, wild animals can become domesticated, symbiosis may occur, parasitism may emerge. A classic example is HIV. The virus has evolved to take advantage of the moral decadence of men towards homosexuality to spread quickly amongst the general population. The next slip for human beings I forecast is bestiality, if this becomes widespread, expect new diseases unseen before in humans. These examples are easy to comprehend for those who want to. There is a lot of discussion of evolution by theists, I present a few links to readers: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_evolution http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/657/ 1 Like |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 6:54am On Dec 22, 2013 |
cyrexx: #LOL #Pele 1 Like |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 7:03am On Dec 22, 2013 |
maclatunji: Even more lies. Did I not point out the flaws in your argument? Atheism is not evolution. An argumebt against evolution is not and argument against atheism. Furthernmore, your op fails when it tries to claim that there are acceptable kinds of evolution. 1 Like |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by lorddeni: 7:40am On Dec 22, 2013 |
@maclatunji You know the problem with you quasi-intellectual theologians, you always start all your arguments from a non-scientific viewpoint of finding means to justify an already pre-determined end, you then adopt any pseudo-knowledge to help, you root your argument in bases totally unagreeable to atheists/agnostics & when we see little or no point debating you in an arena you've built to your utmost convenience, you lay claim to the supremacy of your fallacies. Atheism/agnosticism requires the highest of level of of intellectual honesty because while you agree you do not know it all, you are willing to follow the trail of human discoveries over generations rather than accept philosophical attempts in the form of ancient religions with blatant deficiencies as the way and close your mind to everything else. I leave you with the words of an ancient arab scholar in the post-mohammedan age: 'You can pick a quest for true knowledge or religion, not both' PS: For the christian evangelists who might be thinking this is just about Islam, nope it isn't. For the truly discerning, Islam is as much an attempted revision of Christianity in much the same way Christianity is revised Judaism maclatunji: NOT MADE BY NATURE! Just because 4 Likes |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 8:16am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Here is where the problem lies. Muslims, christians when debating each other have been known to use the "you too fallacy". A muslim points out the sanctioned genocide in the bible and a christian also points out the ones commited by uncle mo. That same failed strategy is what is been used when debating atheists. Knowing fully well, there is nothing about atheism to attack, they shift attack to evolution and the big-bang. I wonder how many times it will have to be drummed into their ears that, atheism does not equal evolution or the big bang 5 Likes |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 8:28am On Dec 22, 2013 |
maclatunji: ^Your case is no case at all. So far, I see ad hominems and no attempt to logically disprove his excellent analysis. This is an analogy of what Atheists are saying: I didn't read the OP but the above argument is beautiful. 1 Like |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 8:28am On Dec 22, 2013 |
cyrexx:hehehehe I missed u |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Omexonomy: 8:39am On Dec 22, 2013 |
maclatunji:expect more insult from these confuse dudes who will take you arround one point just to waste ur time and megabyte. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 8:40am On Dec 22, 2013 |
maclatunji:This has to be the most beautiful piece of nonsense I have ever read. Bravo. Btw, no atheist I know of holds that we come from nothing. That's a misconception. No one knows the origin of life. We can only speculate. And no matter how brilliant your speculation, it would never count for evidence. 1 Like |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 8:42am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Omexonomy: expect more insult from these confuse dudes who will take you arround one point just to waste ur time and megabyte. You people insult our intelligence and expect not to be given a taste of your own medicine. 1 Like |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 8:48am On Dec 22, 2013 |
aManFromMars: Hahahaha, then do not call yourself an Atheist then, call yourself a 'sceptic'. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by Nobody: 8:51am On Dec 22, 2013 |
maclatunji:Indeed, God is the only true atheist. |
Re: A Lecture For Atheists by maclatunji: 8:56am On Dec 22, 2013 |
Another analogy: Can anyone tell me the exact moment he fell asleep last night? I can guarantee that no one can. Atheists reasoning: 1. You cannot tell the exact moment when you fell asleep last night. 2. If you cannot tell the exact moment that you slept, how would you know you slept at all. 3. We say sleep does not exist because you cannot isolate when it happens. 4. In fact, last night you did not sleep at all. I know I slept for a few hours last night, would you agree sleep does not exist if I cannot isolate it? 1 Like |
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