damola14: is area boys general in the constitution? I think SGF is check it up dear

@bolded-not necessary

we don hear.

Chimex388: We also need Area boy-General of the federation with state Parastatals accordin to Association of Nigeria Area boys comprising of agbero,militants,bokos, Aba women(dier head dey touch)

You compare medical doctors to area boys. Na waoh!

HisRoyalHardnes:
You compare medical doctors to area boys. Na waoh!

They are as important to the teeming grassroot population as the doctors(except mayb 4 d bokos )

Kelyto: Johesu shall respond.... Jonathan wants it in pieces... We shall give it to him..... Rubbish...

Akpo

tomber: Doc swore an oath to save lives. but what do we av in Nigeria, Dr. using the lives of Nigerians to play politics. Scrabbling for power while patients are dying from their carelessness. They hate to be checked, to beheld accountable. all they are after is more pay n more pay. They love Comparing themselves with Dr abroad who do their Jobs well and respect boundaries, Dr who will work with other health prof as teams unlike themselves. Well I wish them the best. I pray that they will one day be the victim of the system they have created.

And I seriously don't know why we in Nigeria want to take same take home pay as those abroad when we don't have thesame economy.

CORRECT, I wish JOHESU will play a little politics by going indefinite strike for one complete month, then we would see NMA and JOHESU who is more important.

lord kpakpando: CORRECT, I wish JOHESU will play a little politics by going indefinite strike for one complete month, then we would see NMA and JOHESU who is more important.

My guy OND,HND,Bsc and MB;BS no be thesame thing o. That is life ,more certificates more money and lesser work.

[quote author=jangirova][/quote]@jangirova
We don hear. To prove ur point write jamb, score 280 and above. Then study medicine and graduate as the best student.

i hear three circulars have been released on relativity, call duty and skipping.can someone confirm this?

leo1234: My guy OND,HND,Bsc and MB;BS no be thesame thing o. That is life ,more certificates more money and lesser work.

Have you forgotten that major and minor doesn't mean the same, the more you are, the easier it is to win any battle, for instance a bunch of broom and a stick of broom.

phantom: i hear three circulars have been released on relativity, call duty and skipping.can someone confirm this?

victory at last for medical professions.

Absolutely nonsense!!! Who can diffentiate betwn †ђξ functions of the minister of health and †ђξ SGF...the president has said the SGF will take care of the public health,,,wat has †ђξ minister of health bn doin all these while,private health?... Rubbish!!! The salary of the so-called SGF shld b channeled towardz health care system...Again,NMA shld luk 4 a beter demands 2 salvage †ђξ health sector in dis country....mitcheeeww...

the nma has shown intelligence.johesu has been sent on a wild goose chase while the main ish has gone down..they are called paramedicals for a reason..lol

Paramedics- The paramedic is a healthcare professional who works in
emergency medical situations. A paramedic may be best defined as
a medical professional who
provides medical care at an
advanced life support level in the
pre-hospital environment.

Is the above what a Pharmacist do?
Is the above what Clinical Scientists do?
Is this what Optometrists do?
Is this what a physiotherapist do?


Are these Health professionals mentioned above paramedics?



Haba! Abi no be english we dey speak again.
MBBS holders pleaseeeee stop turning english upside down so u can feel alright.
I hold my peace.

dozzybaba: Paramedical- The paramedic is a healthcare professional who works in
emergency medical situations. A paramedic may be best defined as
a medical professional who
provides medical care at an
advanced life support level in the
pre-hospital environment.

Is the above what a Pharmacist do?
Is the above what a Clinical Scientists do?
Is this what Optometrists do?
Is this a physiotherapists do?



Haba! Abi no be english we dey speak again.
MBBS holders pleaseeeee stop turning english upside down so u can feel alright.
I hold my peace.

okay let me type the proper thing...PARA - MEDICAL.you see that dash in the middle? Thats the point.if you dont get it, then i cant help you.i am not in the mood to draw pictures for anyone this afternoon...

phantom: okay let me type the proper thing...PARA - MEDICAL.you see that dash in the middle? Thats the point.if you dont get it, then i cant help you.i am not in the mood to draw pictures for anyone this afternoon...

Information flows in splits seconds my brother.
Oga MBBS, I'm not against you. Maybe you should ask google to change the definition of your 'Para-medical' to what you prefer.

leo1234: My guy OND,HND,Bsc and MB;BS no be thesame thing o. That is life ,more certificates more money and lesser work.

what is this one saying?

thepathologist:

victory at last for medical professions.

physician, he asked for confirmation.

dozzybaba: Paramedics- The paramedic is a healthcare professional who works in
emergency medical situations. A paramedic may be best defined as
a medical professional who
provides medical care at an
advanced life support level in the
pre-hospital environment.

Is the above what a Pharmacist do?
Is the above what Clinical Scientists do?
Is this what Optometrists do?
Is this what a physiotherapist do?


Are these what Health professionals mentioned above paramedics?



Haba! Abi no be english we dey speak again.
MBBS holders pleaseeeee stop turning english upside down so u can feel alright.
I hold my peace.

my bro, e tire me o. I don dey fil like some of them lack English Dictionary.

Samgreguc:
physician, he asked for confirmation.

confirmed! Keep chasing ' surgeon general'

-I see JOHESU shutting down all Public/private hospital pharmacies. No more drugs for patients.

-I see JOHESU shutting down all Nursing services. No more nursing care for patients that pee and poo on their beds.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Physiotherapy clinics. Motor/Okada accident patients undergoing rehabilitation will be in pains.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Radiography departments. Physical therapy can not commence without Imaging and X-ray.

-I see JOHESU shutting all laboratories including Blood banks. Women in labor, Pre-operative patients, accident victims and Neonates with jaundice may not survive this.


May God avert all these....but if these Professionals are unimportant and useless, JOHESU won't be this powerful.

JOHESU is NMA's 'frankeinstein creature'. Their overbearing attitudes were their tools.

Peace!

dozzybaba: -I see JOHESU shutting down all Public/private hospital pharmacies. No more drugs for patients.

-I see JOHESU shutting down all Nursing services. No more nursing care for patients that pee and poo on their beds.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Physiotherapy clinics. Motor/Okada accident patients undergoing rehabilitation will be in pains.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Radiography departments. Physical therapy can not commence without Imaging and X-ray.

-I see JOHESU shutting all laboratories including Blood banks. Women in labor, Pre-operative patients, accident victims and Neonates with jaundice may not survive this.


May God avert all these....but if these Professionals are unimportant and useless, JOHESU won't be this powerful.

JOHESU is a NMA's 'frankeinstein creature'. Their overbearing attitudes were their tools.

Peace!

unfortunately you are RIGHT! Johesu is frankenstein created by the doctor.but we have seen the monster we created for what it really is but rest assured we will chain the monster.take that to the bank.

phantom: confirmed! Keep chasing ' surgeon general'

look at this one o. Who is against us Surgeon general? Me? U failed!


If I wanted to be a Physician, I would av applied Med. Surg. But, I choosed that sweetie called ________. (fill in d blank space)

Samgreguc:
look at this one o. Who is against us Surgeon general? Me? U failed!


If I wanted to be a Physician, I would av applied Med. Surg. But, I choosed that sweetie called ________. (fill in d blank space)

lol let me guess..pharmacy? My brother i love the way you love your profession.there is dignity in labour unfortunately many of your colleagues and other health professionals dont love theirs.simple.

phantom: unfortunately you are RIGHT! Johesu is frankenstein created by the doctor. but we have seen the monster we created for what it really is but rest assured we will chain the monster.take that to the bank.

eihya. . . . The apothecary profession was created by the physician.




Pls, dont say dis where u can b physically seen or else ?

Samgreguc:
eihya. . . . The apothecary profession was created by the physician.




Pls, dont say dis where u can b physically seen or else ?

its true.maybe apart from pharmacy, tell me which other profession that was not engineered by doctors to ease our workload.i hope you know radiography was a diploma course originally.go and find out who started it in nigeria then come back lets discuss.

SURGEON GENERAL? PRESIDENT JONATHAN; DO THE NEEDFUL OR TENDER YOUR RESIGNATION LETTER ASAP
Fejiro Oliver

Constant attention by a good Nurse may just be
as important as a major operation by a surgeon. Dag Hammarskjold

President Jonathan is surely a man that loves
courting controversy; searching for troubles
where there is none and at the end gets his
fingers burnt and finally he blames his political
opponents, Social Media critics and online
Journalists for his woes. The regrettable thing is
that haven wooed the entire problem; he gets
entangled in a web of quagmire which ropes
him and throws him off balance. What manner
of New Year gift is this to Nigerians? Such is
the type of President many of us will be
regretting for standing under the scorching sun
to cast our precious votes.

For the record, I am neither a media
consultant to JOHESU nor any health union,
neither have I defended them beyond the basic
facts of the issues arising out of the current
brouhaha in the health sector. I have also had
cause to defend many physicians within the
scope of their job and will always do. So let it
be!
The crisis in the health sector is still boiling
and yet our President who doesn’t give a damn
has concluded plans to create an irrelevant
office called ‘Surgeon General’ for Nigeria and
Nigerians. This certainly is no good plan as
many will think; certainly not. This is another
office meant to siphon public funds by the
Presidency and his band of looters. I have
spent three good days consulting all over the
world on who an SG is and no one has given a
good reason why Nigeria should have such
bogus position. Not even the majority of the
physicians see any need for such apart from
the elites who will fight over it.

Going through the comments in various
newspapers that have their presence online; it
is evident that Nigerians do not want such a
position. More criminal is the clause that it is
the exclusive preserve of Medical Doctors. This
is where whoever constructed the bill got it
wrong. This is where we know that our
President must have his PhD queried if he does
not know that the SG is an all inclusive position
for all medical staffs that are clinically inclined.

Here we go.
The SG is a position created exclusively for the
military in 1798 when the US Congress
established the US Marine Hospital Service.
Originally, the corps was composed only of
physicians. As medicine became complicated
with the realization that most of the injured
war victims do not always need surgery but
Physiotherapy, Nurses attention or only taking
of drugs provided by the pharmacists, the
position of the SG was made open to any of the
officers in the Medical Command (MEDCOM)
who must be a lieutenant General. Thus on
December 7th 2011, Lt. Gen. Patricia Horoho.
RN was sworn in as the first woman and first
NURSE to officially be in command of the
Army’s largest medical organization. That day
proved to the world that the appointment was
no longer based on medical first degree but
most qualified among all the health workers.
At the ceremony, Gen. Raymond T. Odierno,
chief of staff of the Army, said the impact of
the Army surgeon general goes well beyond the
Army to the “national and international level.”
“This position requires a special officer that
can lead change and achieve unity of effort in
the dynamic, joint interagency and also in a
multinational role working with our allies and
partners around the world,” he said.
Horoho previously served simultaneously as the
U.S. Army deputy surgeon general and 23rd
chief of the U.S. Army Nurse Corps.
She earned a Bachelor of Science in Nursing
from the University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill and a Master of Science in Nursing as a
clinical trauma specialist from the University of
Pittsburgh. She is a resident graduate of the
Army’s Command and General Staff College and
the Industrial College of the Armed Forces,
where she earned a second Master of Science
degree in National Resource Strategy.


Another Nurse who served as the SG was Gale
Pollock after the then Army SG, General Kevin
kIley resigned due to the controversial Walter
Reed Army Medical Centre Scandal in 2007
A policy change in 1996 made it possible for
someone other than a physician to serve as the
Army surgeon general, according to the Army
Medical Command. The policy reads that “the
surgeon general may be appointed from
officers in any corps of the Army Medical
Department and, while so serving, has the
grade of lieutenant general.” The President
should automatically get this policy change as
soon as possible.
Mr President, it is the words of General
Raymond that I bring to you today. He never
said the position required a special medical
doctor or a special surgeon but a “special
officer”. To further prove this point, a
Pharmacist is the current Deputy Surgeon
General by name, Rear Admiral Scott F.
Gibberson, and should the current SG resigns
or exit under any circumstance; Gibberson, a
Pharmacist will take over the hallowed position.
The system we wish to copy must be copied
completely with the position made open to all
medical workers.


The arrogance of a profession who swims in
delusion of self importance should not becloud
the generality of Nigerians who have seen far
than they do. Taking a look at the bill sent to
the Senate smacks of selfishness with roles that
has already render the position of the Health
Minister useless.
“He/She shall articulate scientifically based
health policy analysis, and advise the President,
National Assembly, and the Minister of Health
on the full range of critical Public health,
medical and health system issues facing the
Nation.
He/She shall elevate the quality of health
practice in the professional disciplines through
the advancement of appropriate standards and
research priorities.
He/She shall provide leadership and
management oversight in National emergency
preparedness and response i. e coordinate
health and medical services delivery during
national disasters.
He/She shall fulfill statutory and customary
functions on a wide variety of Federal Boards
and Government bodies as required by
appropriate representation.
He/She shall promote health and healthy life
styles by adherence to norms and standards,
this he shall do by providing guidelines on
health matters that affect the citizenry”
“The Surgeon-General of Nigeria (SGN) shall
appoint numbers of persons as Director or
heads of various departments provided the
appointment shall reflect the Federal Character
of Nigeria” they say. Whose money will they
waste for the SG to appoint his cronies as SA,
PA, SSA, etc? An intern medical doctor recieves
N180, thousand per month which a level 14
officer in most Federal civil service don't get.
As a junior resident, his take home pay is N273
thousand which is the salary of some directors
in Federal civil service; and as a senior resident
officer, his pay packet is N350 thousand
monthly and a consultant takes home
N800,000 thousand monthly while some gets as
much as N1.6 million, which is an annual pay
of many senior Federal civil servants, yet
someone comes to drum into our ears that it is
not true. If these people collects this
outrageous sum in a country where we don't
pay tax on the things we spend like our counter
parts abroad; how much will the SG collects
monthly? N5 million or more monthly apart
from the other loots that will be budgeted to
run the office.
What other work does the Minister of health do
other than the above listed for the proposed
SGF? Whoever thought up this idea ought to be
behind bar. To think that the SG will serve for
tenure of six years when the President who
appoints him stays for four years is certainly
the works of men who wants to use the office
to feather their next. Is the SG our problem in
the health sector? A million of them cannot
stop any Nigeria from going to seek medical
treatment abroad. If I wish to go to Germany
for treatment; it is my hard earned money and
no SG can block the airport to stop me or any
Nigerian from entering the next available plane
to go to Germany. Why deceive ourselves that
the SG can decide who goes abroad for medical
treatment? No profession must be allowed the
misadventure to ride on another like they are
princes; just as no occupation should have her
ego massaged for peace to reign. This attitude
of masturbating the ego of all medical workers
especially NMA must stop. If the SG must be
created; then the sperm of justice must run
through the embryo of all the clinical workers
and not a selected few.
Can we stop this deception of creating this
position that will further ground the health
sector and focus on solving the ones on
ground? The governor of Taraba State, Danbaba
Suntai does not need surgery to come back on
his feet today but physiotherapy. Do we then
create the office of the Physiotherapy General?
Do we need to remind ourselves that Obasanjo
closeness to Senator Andy Uba is because he
was rehabilitated by the latter who is a doctor
of physiotherapy? Did he ask the then President
to create a special post for his colleagues? Any
attempt by Mr President to create this post will
bring anarchy not just to the health sector but
Nigeria as a whole. He should get ready to
create the office of the tutor general, Reporter
General, Engineer general, bricklayer general,
Suya Man general, Banker General, Driver
general, Pharmacist general, and even
corruption general which will be headed by
Stella Oduah, Alison Madueke or Goddey
Orubebe. It is as serious as that. The President
should focus on building of quality hospitals
that will make our leaders get treated at home.
It is a lie from the pit of abyss to tell Nigerians
that medical tourism is due to the non
availability of a Surgeon General. For crying
out loud; only five countries arguably have the
office of Surgeon General and we do not have
to follow suit. Enough of this copy cat culture
in us, when we have not finished copying how
to practice the true democracy. It’s another
sub-standard lie for NMA to Nigerians that
Nigeria best brains in Medicine and Surgery are
abroad. Oh my God, it means we all have been
treated by quacks that are left in this country
all these years. We are simply finished!
All other medical workers especially the Nurses
and Physiotherapists are the worst hit as we
have them practicing abroad more than the
physician. There is brain drain in every sector
and it is entirely not the fault of Nigeria, but
personal decisions. Do we bring all the health
workers registered in their various boards to
confirm this claim?
We certainly do not have money to waste on
this borrowed post that is coming to duplicate
the minister of health. Come to think of it,
which of our medical worker in the Armed
Forces is up to the rank of a Lieutenant
General? If we must copy anything America, we
must also copy their prudent way of spending
and it has to begin from the budget. Any
attempt to gag the president into creating this
monster position without following the
Americans whom we are borrowing it from will
certainly prove to the world his weakness, and
a weak man cannot govern a country like
Nigeria. This is worse than the current
challenge of the All Progressive Congress (APC),
as it will indirectly affects the masses. What are
we even saying? The bill has been brought to
the Senate and House of Representatives and
they in their wisdom have thrown it out. It
went before the Justice Abdullahi Gusau
Committee on Harmony in the Health Sector
and was utterly rejected. This bill will certainly
not see the day without the assent of the
lawmakers, and if in whatever form it succeeds;
Mr President should please tender his
resignation letter should the health sector goes
on strike. We do not live in an animal farm
despite the President being a graduate of how
to take care of animals.
It is still a rumor for now and President
Jonathan can still warm his way back by
dousing it and reassuring us that it will never
come to pass; at least not in his regime and
never should it be. Do the needful. Happy New
Year pals.

These little things matter…
Fejiro Oliver, a Journalist can be reached on
secretsreporters@gmail.com and
+2348026797588 (sms only please). Follow on
twitter @fejirooliver86 and Facebook
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phantom: its true.maybe apart from pharmacy, tell me which other profession that was not engineered by doctors to ease our workload. i hope you know radiography was a diploma course originally. go and find out who started it in nigeria then come back lets discuss.

and now that its a professional course, dont u think they are now professionals?


Gone are the days when it's a diploma course and NOW, come the day it is a professional course. So, reshape ur thought about them.

phantom: lol let me guess..pharmacy? My brother i love the way you love your profession.there is dignity in labour unfortunately many of your colleagues and other health professionals dont love theirs.simple.

and Naija made it so

phantom: its true. maybe apart from pharmacy, tell me which other profession that was not engineered by doctors to ease our workload.i hope you know radiography was a diploma course originally.go and find out who started it in nigeria then come back lets discuss.

its da truth and nt maybe.

And as for others, I will like to remind u dat dey spent nothing less than 5yrs studying hard and are also professionals abi, 5yrs na beans?

Owing to the brief history and explanation on the Surgeon General provided by Fejiro Oliver, I think NMA and GEJ is getting it wrong!