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Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 9:49am On Jul 12, 2014 |
We have over a zillion 'pastors' in the world today all claiming to be called by God while setting up separate congregations and worship structures each complete with it's own mode of worship, understanding of the bible, aims and objectives and of course bank accounts. In this context I want Pastors of the house to confirm if and why God called them and especially why they felt the need to separate from the 'brethren' and form other congregations. Who called you PASTOR ? |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Danhumprey: 9:51am On Jul 12, 2014 |
Oya ooo! Where are the 'pastors/evangelists/prophets'?? |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 10:17am On Jul 12, 2014 |
Person need to "call" you before you open business? 6 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by larrymoore(m): 11:37am On Jul 12, 2014 |
Pastors, how do u identify the voice of a true caller? |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by maestroferddi: 11:51am On Jul 12, 2014 |
Can you expatiate on what you mean by "calling"? Please give biblical references? |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by chrisviral(m): 12:33pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
And what you guys fail to realise is that everyone has a divine calling.. Some as teachers, some doctors, writters, motivators... To be called is not only limited to the pulpit pastor.. Fact. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Joagbaje(m): 12:47pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
Go to the bible and find who does the calling on ministers. Hebrews 5:4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by DeoGratias1(m): 12:51pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
God called some, others called themselves yet others are answering other peoples' call. 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
But how can God call a 'zillion' people who in most cases are contrary to one another on almost everything from the Trinity to Tithing etc. Is God a God of confusion ?? What is the differentiating factor between those who are genuine and those who are fake. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by FortresOfChrist(f): 6:26pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
frosbel: But how can God call a 'zillion' people who in most cases are contrary to one another on almost everything from the Trinity to Tithing etc. |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
frosbel: But how can God call a 'zillion' people who in most cases are contrary to one another on almost everything from the Trinity to Tithing etc. Is God a God of confusion ??The ones that have the most private jets and private universities are genuine. God blesses his own. 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by chrisviral(m): 6:29pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
frosbel: But how can God call a 'zillion' people who in most cases are contrary to one another on almost everything from the Trinity to Tithing etc. Is God a God of confusion ??the differentiating factor is you... Even d bible did say that even the elects will be decieved... Just read the bible and you wont be decieved. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by malvisguy212: 8:46pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
frosbel: But how can God call a 'zillion' people who in most cases are contrary to one another on almost everything from the Trinity to Tithing etc. Is God a God of confusion ??brother, you are right, this shouldn't have been problem for the believer, we all read the bible, in other of the prophecy jesus made to come to pass, this things must happen, woe to that man who the offence come from. THY LORD KNOWS THOSE THAT ARE HIS OWN. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by mployer(m): 11:22pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
Joagbaje: Go to the bible and find who does the calling on ministers.Wa oo! Tanx 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Goshen360(m): 3:03am On Jul 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: Go to the bible and find who does the calling on ministers. Every Christian is already called. There's no special calling for any man in the body of Christ. Romans 8:28, 30; Jude 1:1; 1 Peter 5:10; 1 Cor. 1:24 and many more proves every Christian is called but we are "sent" on different assignment. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by italo: 5:40am On Jul 13, 2014 |
Nobody called them. Nobody needs to call a scammer. All the people called in the new testament were ordained by the One Church founded by Christ. Anybody that ordained himself in his bedroom is a liar and a thief. Anybody that is ordained by a shop (not the one true Church founded 2000 years ago) is a fool. 4 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Joagbaje(m): 5:44am On Jul 13, 2014 |
Goshen360: That's called to be saints. We are all called to be saints. This is different from the calling into an office of ministry gift. As pastor prophet apostle evangelist and teacher. There's no special calling for any man in the body of Christ. There is . God gives different abilities and also There's leadership structure in the kingdom of God. Offices that God call certain into. Everybody is not there . Every Nigeria can't be president but every Nigeria president is a Nigerian . Romans 8:28, 30; Jude 1:1; 1 Peter 5:10; 1 Cor. 1:24 and many more proves every Christian is called but we are "sent" on different assignment. That different assignment is what the calling is. So there is ability part and there's leadership part. 1 Corinthians 12:28-30 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by BabaGnoni: 12:08pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
italo: Nobody called them. Nobody needs to call a scammer. Joagbaje: Go to the bible and find who does the calling on ministers. Goshen360: Joagbaje: They aren't even selected or chosen They aren't even doing the Father's business "Why is it that you have been searching for me?" He replied; "did you not know that it is my duty to be engaged upon my Father's business?" - Luke 2:49 Weymouth New Testament And to those who had been selling doves he said: “Take these things out of here, and do not make my Father's house a house of trade.” - John 2:16 Aramaic Bible in Plain English It is all wash... Shine your eyes wellu wellu... They are only after or minding their own For many are called, but few are chosen. - Matthew 22:14 King James Bible 5 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
They still have not answered the question. If God called all Pastors in Nigeria today why are they all saying different things ? 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 12:21pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
frosbel: They still have not answered the question. why dont you, frosbel go and attend to that thread you opened about best military in Africa? You opened the longest thread on Nairaland and you dont even care to go back. |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Elijah78: 5:03pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: Man calls it offices, CAREER, It is man made You know how you guys interpreted this to mean offices to support your continues lawlessness. In our consideration of spiritual gifts, Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, of course, is our expert. There are three major passages, all in Paul’s epistles (I Corinthians 12, Romans 12 and Ephesians 4). Why chose the one that suits you and leave the rest. Flesh!!!! everyone now has chosen to be called to be a prophet, pastor, teacher of the word etc, what about the rest? Offices you say! You who say you've been called, come and answer the question Frosbel asked. I am following...... 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Joagbaje(m): 6:23pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
frosbel: They still have not answered the question. Nobody can speak for others. So I may not agree with your construction above . The point is that god does call people into pastoral ministry . But to determine if Mr A is called into pastoral ministry in not in any mans place to say . Mr A will answer for himself before God. We can deny the enemy do send false ministers . why are they all saying different things ? The call of God does not perfect a man. It is individual responsibility to know the word and Gods will . There are ignorant pastors and there are knowledgeable members who may even study more than the pastor. Knowledge is each mans responsibility . Secondly revelation knowledge has it's part . Paul had issues with some other apostle biased on the fact that he had deeper knowledge than them. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by maestroferddi: 6:30pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Well, fact is that God can use/call anybody. There is no doubt that the ministerial/pastoral office especially in Nigeria has, for the most part, been politicised. Jesus the good shepherd, was the pastor of humility and self-effacing meekness. 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by maestroferddi: 6:34pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje:Am I the only person at loss as to the point you are trying to make? 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by italo: 6:51pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
frosbel: They still have not answered the question. God cannot teach Oyakhilome that masturbation is okay, then teach Adeboye that masturbation is a sin. God cannot teach Kumuyi that fornication is a sin, then teach Pastor Biodun COZA that fornication is "a higher level of grace." It's plain. God didn't tell Jesus to start his Church 2000 years ago, only to tell these thieves to start their own Churches to contradict that of Jesus. Scammers...all of them! 12 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Goshen360(m): 4:20am On Jul 14, 2014 |
Joagbaje: I can't understand what you're trying to twist here. You just called it "ministry gift" or "office". The man is already called just as every Christian, he was just given a gift to function in ministry. Is that a special calling? International Standard Version And it is he who gifted some to be apostles, others to be prophets, others to be evangelists, and still others to be pastors and teachers, New Living Translation Now these are the gifts Christ gave to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers. He never said they were "called" as apostles but were gifted (spiritually), just like someone is gifted to sing or compose songs. Joagbaje: The same thing I'm saying - Every Christian is already called including the pastors. The pastoral function is a gifted function given by Christ to the church, just as someone gifted to teach the word. So, every Christian is called but not every Christian is a teacher. Those who are e.g teachers, are gifted by Christ to do so. Joagbaje: Again, you're twisting this plain English. He didn't say the "called as" apostles. It is the same apostles, prophets, teachers etc that is being repeated which was stated as gifts of Christ to the church in the verse above. They are all called already but the scripture said, "set some in the church" that is, they're gifted, set apart unto a particular gift which they will function in, they're sent...within their calling to be what they're gifted to do. The verse you quoted kept saying, gift (have all the GIFT of healing?) but you kept saying that's the calling. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Elijah78: 6:54am On Jul 14, 2014 |
Joagbaje: What do you think/say or what does scripture say about the Spirit of Discernment?. How can we neglect this spirit and fleshly sought out for others like spirit of prophecy, knowledge etc, why why why?.........what happened to the spirit of discernment?? |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by PastorKun(m): 7:52am On Jul 14, 2014 |
Joagbaje: Bros abeg ansa the OP's question, who or what called you into your current 'office'? 4 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by italo: 9:24am On Jul 14, 2014 |
PastorKun: He called himself. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 9:25am On Jul 14, 2014 |
Many people see the ministry as a career first before a calling - fact ! 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by PastorKun(m): 10:47am On Jul 14, 2014 |
italo: Man must wack na 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Apatheist: WITTY THATS COOL |
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