Who destroyed the nose on the statue ? This is the second time I'm seeing a statue with a destroyed nose.

WHAT OF GANDOKI AND CHAKA ZULU

wat of King Jaja Of Opobo?

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His Rulership surpasses all, 1,000000 LIKES for him

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PAGAN9JA: Another Racist thread by Rossikk.

Who told you that TUtankhamun was a black man?

Which akata website you sourced that pic from?

These are the original Golden mask and statues of him sourced from his tomb:



[img]http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tutankhamun+Golden+Age+Pharaohs+Exhibition+Z8LEWbTB9Kol.jpg[/img]


Shabti of Tutankhamun


Tutankhamun was clearly a brown skinned man, unlike Taharqa who was a pure Nubian.

Stop being a pawn in the hands of white racists trying to steal your history. Tutunkhamun was a black man. Those pics you posted depict a black man. The original life size statue I posted of him showing his full black skin tone was found in his tomb in a 1922 excavation and has nothing to do with "akata". There is no such race as "brown skinned race". If you meant he was Arab, or Greek, you're wrong. The African name Tutunkhamun is clearly not a name that can be even remotely associated with any of those peoples. There are images of his grandmother Queen Tiye and his dad Pharaoh Akhenaton, and they are very much black African people. Learn more here:

http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/evolvement_of_king_tut.htm


The ancient Egyptians looked like this, as seen on their own tomb wall renditions:

datalossvictim1: Who destroyed the nose on the statue ? This is the second time I'm seeing a statue with a destroyed nose.

Napoleon

With the amount of hatred Muslims receive on these forums, it's quite surprising that most people are hailing Black Muslim leaders.

datalossvictim1: Who destroyed the nose on the statue ? This is the second time I'm seeing a statue with a destroyed nose.

In Egypt, we find many attempts by westerners and Arabs to disguise the African nature of the artefacts. Thus, you will find many statues with their noses cut off and/or their lips scraped off, so as to hide their black African identities. But such attempts merely confirm to sensible people that those were indeed blacks, or the racists wouldn't bother doing all that. Also, we get further confirmation from Ancient Greek visitors to Egypt, men like Aristotle, Diodorus, Homer, Lucian, Herodotus, Appolodorius, and so on, who ALL wrote that the people of Egypt were "black skinned". Their writings are still available today.

DikSin:

Don't bring Bros J into this, he's not an African!
Read your Bible well and face your face!

Well will it surprise you to know that He was black?

What an African kings indeed!!!

Rossikki: Stop being a pawn in the hands of white racists trying to steal your history. Tutunkhamun was a black man. Those pics you posted depict a black man. The original life size statue I posted of him showing his full black skin tone was found in his tomb in a 1922 excavation and has nothing to do with "akata". There is no such race as "brown skinned race". If you meant he was Arab, or Greek, you're wrong. The African name Tutunkhamun is clearly not a name that can be even remotely associated with any of those peoples. There are images of his grandmother Queen Tiye and his dad Pharaoh Akhenaton, and they are very much black African people. Learn more here:

http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/evolvement_of_king_tut.htm

You stop lying in the first place. I am not being a pawn to anyone. I just dont want to lie and steal other peoples history and lay claim over it. Tutankhamun was a tanned-brown man which is the natural Egyptian complexion still found among many Egyptian and Saidi men. Those pics depict a brown - light brown skinned man. It seems you have eyesight problem or cant differentiate between colours. If he was a black man, they should have depicted him as black on his tomb. The masks of dead Pharaohs are lifesize portraits of the living Pharaoh. Contrast the black bands on his headress to his skin colour and see the difference! How can you ignore the contrast in colours?! You just have an agenda to stake claim over Egyptian history. Their is no such thing as an "African name". That is just bullshyt reasoning. Every ethnic group has its own name. Tutankhamun is an Egyptian name.

And all bodies become carbonified and decayed over the ages, especially mumified ones.

This is the picture of a much recent italian mummy saint rosa. See how her mummified corpse is gradually turning carbonified and black. SOon you will claim she is black too and that italians were blacks:



Tutankhamuns body is much much older in comparision.

The world is not just black & white.

PAGAN9JA:

You stop lying in the first place. I am not being a pawn to anyone. I just dont want to lie and steal other peoples history and lay claim over it. Tutankhamun was a tanned-brown man which is the natural Egyptian complexion still found among many Egyptian and Saidi men.

Dude, I really don't have your time. You're a historical illiterate to be talking about the skin tones of Egyptians TODAY after they've become mixed with the blood of Arab and Greek invaders. Tutunkhamun was from the pyramid building era, an era long before the foreign invasions, when Egyptians were black Africans.


This was the life sized statue of Tutunkhamun found in his own tomb:

HOW MUCH BLACKER DO YOU WANT HIM TO BE?




Statue of Queen Tiye: King Tut's grandmother:





Other tomb art from ancient Egypt:







...................






There are hundreds more of these images from Egyptian tomb art. The people who cut off the noses of the statues always make sure not to display these images in their museums and in Hollywood flicks, so you need to either visit Egypt or go on specialist Internet sites to see these images of the true Ancient Egyptians.


The Ancient Greek testimonies also help:


THE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE

Note: All of Africa South of the Sahara was known to the ancient Greeks as ''Ethiopia''.


Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract.


"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws."

Diodorus's declared intention to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, alias the Greek Dionysus also commonly known by his Roman name Bacchus. The Homeric Hymn "To Dionysus" locates the birth of Dionysus in a mysterious city of Nysa "near the streams of Aegyptus" (Hesiod 287). Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added]

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)

Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2).



"Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings".



Diodorus continues:



"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity,"



"The Aithiopians [Ethiopians] say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them."



"There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair".

(Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1996))




Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great.

Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises.



"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two."

(Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)



Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair."

(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317)



The evidence of Lucian (Greek writer, 125 B.C.) is as explicit as that of the previous writers. He introduces two Greeks, Lycinus and Timolaus, who start a conversation:



Lycinus (describing a young Egyptian): "This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin . . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman."



Timolaus: "But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus, All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place."

(Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3)


Herodotus (circa 400 bc) (Known to western historians as the Father of History)


Herodotus also asserted that "the names of nearly all the gods came to Greece from Egypt . . . for the names of all the gods have been known in Egypt from the beginning of time . . . It was the Egyptians too who originated, and taught the Greeks . . . ceremonial meeting, processions and liturgies . . . The Egyptians were also the first to assign each month and each day to a particular deity, and to foretell the date of a man's birth, his character, his fortunes, and the day of his death . . . The Egyptians, too have made more use of omens and prognostics than any other nation. . ."

(Herodotus, The Histories, 149-150; 152; 159).


''[size=15pt]There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race.[/size] Before I heard any mention of the fact from others, I had remarked it myself. After the thought had struck me, I made inquiries on the subject both in Colchis and in Egypt, and I found that the Colchians had a more distinct recollection of the Egyptians, than the Egyptians had of them. Still the Egyptians said that they believed the Colchians to be descended from the army of Sesostris. [size=15pt]My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair[/size], which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.''

PAGAN9JA:

You stop lying in the first place. I am not being a pawn to anyone. I just dont want to lie and steal other peoples history and lay claim over it. Tutankhamun was a tanned-brown man which is the natural Egyptian complexion still found among many Egyptian and Saidi men. Those pics depict a brown - light brown skinned man. It seems you have eyesight problem or cant differentiate between colours. If he was a black man, they should have depicted him as black on his tomb. The masks of dead Pharaohs are lifesize portraits of the living Pharaoh. Contrast the black bands on his headress to his skin colour and see the difference! How can you ignore the contrast in colours?! You just have an agenda to stake claim over Egyptian history. Their is no such thing as an "African name". That is just bullshyt reasoning. Every ethnic group has its own name. Tutankhamun is an Egyptian name.

And all bodies become carbonified and decayed over the ages, especially mumified ones.

This is the picture of a much recent italian mummy saint rosa. See how her mummified corpse is gradually turning carbonified and black. SOon you will claim she is black too and that italians were blacks:



Tutankhamuns body is much much older in comparision.

The world is not just black & white.

indeed these people need to get off Egyptian nuts
https://www.nairaland.com/1810145/greece-philosophy-afrocentric-obsession-ancient

So hold on a second there are actually people who are still debating whether Ancient Egyptians were black or white when there are Ph.D. White Egyptologists like Freeman who said they are black. This has nothing to do with Afrocentrism, Egypt is in Africa There are still many black Egyptians today although a lot have been pushed further south as a result of Greek, Turk and Roman conquest.

The only ones to blame are Africans (ourselves) because we allowed ourselves to be colonised and taken over.

Fulaman198: So hold on a second there are actually people who are still debating whether Ancient Egyptians were black or white when there are Ph.D. White Egyptologists like Freeman who said they are black. This has nothing to do with Afrocentrism, Egypt is in Africa There are still many black Egyptians today although a lot have been pushed further south as a result of Greek, Turk and Roman conquest.

The only ones to blame are Africans (ourselves) because we allowed ourselves to be colonised and taken over.

The one I don't understand is when even the ancient Greek visitors and scholars like Aristotle and Herodotus wrote that the Egyptians were blacks, yet you still have people like Pagan9ja and co arguing nonsense. It just shows the extent to which modern western media and Hollywood deception has eaten into peoples' consciousness. Can there be a more credible witness in history than Aristotle? Or Herodotus, known to Europeans as ''the father of history''? I mean, it's incredible. Many Africans are so brainwashed by modern media deception, it's unreal.

EGYPT NOSE CUTTING FIESTA or shall we say ''Operation Hide The African in Him''












[size=15pt]''White supremacy made you cut the nose off the Sphinx, because it reminded you too much of the black man's... majesty''[/size]

- Louis Farrakhan

A few 'lucky' pharaohs with their features relatively intact:



Narmer (Menes) First Dynasty Pharaoh

Rossikki:

Dude, I really don't have your time. You're a historical illiterate to be talking about the skin tones of Egyptians TODAY after they've become mixed with the blood of Arab and Greek invaders. Tutunkhamun was from the pyramid building era, an era long before the foreign invasions, when Egyptians were black Africans.



This was the life sized statue of Tutunkhamun found in his own tomb:

HOW MUCH BLACKER DO YOU WANT HIM TO BE?




Statue of Queen Tiye: King Tut's grandmother:





Other tomb art from ancient Egypt:







...................






There are hundreds more of these images from Egyptian tomb art. The people who cut off the noses of the statues always make sure not to display these images in their museums and in Hollywood flicks, so you need to either visit Egypt or go on specialist Internet sites to see these images of the true Ancient Egyptians.


The Ancient Greek testimonies also help:


THE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE

Note: All of Africa South of the Sahara was known to the ancient Greeks as ''Ethiopia''.


Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract.


"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws."

Diodorus's declared intention to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, alias the Greek Dionysus also commonly known by his Roman name Bacchus. The Homeric Hymn "To Dionysus" locates the birth of Dionysus in a mysterious city of Nysa "near the streams of Aegyptus" (Hesiod 287). Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added]

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)

Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2).



"Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings".



Diodorus continues:



"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity,"



"The Aithiopians [Ethiopians] say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them."



"There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair".

(Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1996))




Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great.

Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises.



"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two."

(Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)



Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair."

(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317)



The evidence of Lucian (Greek writer, 125 B.C.) is as explicit as that of the previous writers. He introduces two Greeks, Lycinus and Timolaus, who start a conversation:



Lycinus (describing a young Egyptian): "This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin . . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman."



Timolaus: "But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus, All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place."

(Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3)


Herodotus (circa 400 bc) (Known to western historians as the Father of History)


Herodotus also asserted that "the names of nearly all the gods came to Greece from Egypt . . . for the names of all the gods have been known in Egypt from the beginning of time . . . It was the Egyptians too who originated, and taught the Greeks . . . ceremonial meeting, processions and liturgies . . . The Egyptians were also the first to assign each month and each day to a particular deity, and to foretell the date of a man's birth, his character, his fortunes, and the day of his death . . . The Egyptians, too have made more use of omens and prognostics than any other nation. . ."

(Herodotus, The Histories, 149-150; 152; 159).


''[size=15pt]There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race.[/size] Before I heard any mention of the fact from others, I had remarked it myself. After the thought had struck me, I made inquiries on the subject both in Colchis and in Egypt, and I found that the Colchians had a more distinct recollection of the Egyptians, than the Egyptians had of them. Still the Egyptians said that they believed the Colchians to be descended from the army of Sesostris. [size=15pt]My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair[/size], which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.''

na your papa be historical illiterate. The black allele is still stronger than the white one? Where are all these so-called black Egyptians ?

Why do some modern Egyptians still bear EGyptian last names like Bayoumi (ANubis), etc.

Are you telling me that the number of Greeks invading EGypt was Geater than the number of natives? Thats bullshyt. Most of the Greek garisson of Alexander left Egypt and the only remaining were the Ptolemys who used to interbreed among themselves or marry mainland Greeks. there were a few other Greek incomers but not enough to compleetely overpower natives.
Even upto the 18th century , there were accounts of Egyptians sacrificing to the Sphinx before the khedive put an end to it.

This was the life sized statue of Tutunkhamun found in his own tomb:

HOW MUCH Light-BROWNER DO YOU WANT HIM TO BE?

[img]http://1.bp..com/-f68tXZ3TkDs/ToVg0o9THkI/AAAAAAAADyc/K8062VqtD_8/s1600/Tutankhamun_Shabti.jpg[/img]
This is a full coloured statue unlike your dual black and gold statue. Therefore this is much more plausible.


[img]http://www.dw.de/image/0,,6439841_4,00.jpg[/img]
Egyptian Zahi Hawass with Tutankhamun statue. (contrast the black eyeliner with the tanned brown skin colour)





A double perfume box of gold and silver pedestal, in the shape of two cartouches, having plumes for lid.

Back: The young King represented in similar attitude to the front, but as King, and on the left with a black face on the right a light flesh colored face.


Since you are posting random images, unrelated to the topic, let me do the same:




Queen Tiye's daughter



Egyptian and Nubian.



Tutankhamun and wife.









[img]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files./2008/11/nubian-tribute.jpg[/img]

Nubians , so-called "Blacks"




Modern day Saidi EGyptians.

TerryCarr:
indeed these people need to get off Egyptian nuts
https://www.nairaland.com/1810145/greece-philosophy-afrocentric-obsession-ancient

The only reason these people are doing that is because they are suffering from slave-mentality.

They feel that their tribal sub-saharan ancestors did not contribute much to development, building great cities, etc., so they just wan to associate themselves and lay claims to other peoples histories on the continent.

This is the Truth.

Instead of looking forward, they are trying to lay claims to unverifiable histories of places and people that have nothing to do with them.

If there is anyone who should be laying claim to Egyptian and Nubia, it is the Egyptians , Copts and Nubians. but instead it is these african americans from overseas who are laying higher claims on Egypt. *smh

What they dont realize is that building tall pyramids and maths, science ,etc. is not the greatest achievement.

The greatest achievement lies in simplicity, happiness and contentment. which our ancestors knew best.

Rossikki: EGYPT NOSE CUTTING FIESTA or shall we say ''Operation Hide The African in Him''

[size=18pt]RUBBISH!

THESE STATUES ARE MADE FROM BLACK STONE!

even the clothes , ornaments, etc., are black in these statues . Does that meant they are BLACK? [/size]


This is a group of staues in Lagos (3 wise men)

Does that mean Yoruba people are whites?!

PAGAN9JA:


na your papa be historical illiterate. The black allele is still stronger than the white one? Where are all these so-called black Egyptians ?

There were large scale migrations from the Nile valley to the south of the continent in antiquity following desertification and foreign invasions.

This was the life sized statue of Tutunkhamun found in his own tomb:

HOW MUCH Light-BROWNER DO YOU WANT HIM TO BE?

[img]http://1.bp..com/-f68tXZ3TkDs/ToVg0o9THkI/AAAAAAAADyc/K8062VqtD_8/s1600/Tutankhamun_Shabti.jpg[/img]

This is a full coloured statue unlike your dual black and gold statue. Therefore this is much more plausible.

That is not a life sized statue but rather a tiny shabti doll made with lightwood depicting his travelling soul. It even says it's a shabti on your picture! I bet you have no idea what a shabti is. They are very tiny dolls buried with the deceased representing their spirit. I said you were an illiterate in these things and all you do is confirm it. The image I posted was a life sized statue of Tutunkhamun found in his tomb.

Learn about shabti dolls here:
http://www.ancient.eu.com/article/119/



Lastly, we notice that the 'light skinned' images you posted were all of WOMEN. This is not surprising since it at some point it was an artistic convention in Egypt to depict women as lighter to denote their femininity. Here is textual evidence of this:

''The skin color of both male and female is generally dark brown (contrasted with the usual dark brown or red for males and light brown or white for females)''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_art

Oh.. and that first bust you posted of 'Nefertiti' has been dismissed by many scholars as a fake:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts_and_culture/8038097.stm

Finally, why exactly should we believe a western media deceived, brainwashed person like you over the testimonies of esteemed ancient Greek visitors to Egypt - scholars like Aristotle and Herodotus who stated the Egyptians were black skinned? I mean, we don't even know your name!

Rossikki:
The Walls of Benin City was the world's largest man-made earth structure. Fred Pearce wrote in New Scientist:

"They extend for some 16,000 kilometres in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They cover 6,500 square kilometres and were all dug by the Edo people. In all, they are four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops. They took an estimated 150 million hours of digging to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet''


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walls_of_Benin

tis only in Nigeria where such a historical landmark would be ripped apart for commercial reasons. only in Nigeria that kids are not taken on expeditions to see such landmarks. only Nigeria. so we have something this unique and yet i bet you 75% of Nigerians know nothing of it. how sad.

Rossikki:

The one I don't understand is when even the ancient Greek visitors and scholars like Aristotle and Herodotus wrote that the Egyptians were blacks, yet you still have people like Pagan9ja and co arguing nonsense. It just shows the extent to which modern western media and Hollywood deception has eaten into peoples' consciousness. Can there be a more credible witness in history than Aristotle? Or Herodotus, known to Europeans as ''the father of history''? I mean, it's incredible. Many Africans are so brainwashed by modern media deception, it's unreal.

Well that is because Africans have been brainwashed to the point to believe that they are no good when in fact Nigerians are the most educated people/immigrants in the United States and possibly the United Kingdom. It's not really their fault. You have lots of Nigerian schools that teach more European history than African history. The question is, what are we going to do to fix this? Many Nigerians for example are completely daft to other countries/regions in Africa even if they are neighbouring countries or regions.

experimentist: Na me be Experimentist The Great a.k.a Thy King Don Come (meaning, Una King Don Come o) I took over power after the death of my father Zexpesimentos (The god). I conquered many lands even Rome. No be small fight o.. I dey use one hand slap 10,000 people that time.. Come see how kings dey run scatter wen dey see me.. I too much jor!

I laugh taya

PAGAN9JA:

[size=18pt]RUBBISH!

THESE STATUES ARE MADE FROM BLACK STONE!

even the clothes , ornaments, etc., are black in these statues . Does that meant they are BLACK? [/size]

Who said the stone colour depicts the colour of the kings? We are saying their noses were cut off to hide their 'wideness'. It has nothing to do with the colour of the stones. The stones could be green or purple for all we care. We already KNOW the Egyptians were blacks.

I've really no idea why you're fighting your own history (assuming you're not some white racist posing as an African). WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE tomb art depicting blacks almost entirely? What do you have to say about the testimonies of the ancient Greek visitors? You IGNORE these strong proofs of black Egypt, and go looking around like a lunatic for something to argue against it, and then when evidence trashing your position is presented (as I've done repeatedly), you ignore it and go looking for something else to scream about. Are you going to apologize for claiming a shabti doll of Tutunkhamun was a life sized statue, even when your own link said it was a shabti doll, or are you here to deceive and lie to people?

Fulaman198:

Well that is because Africans have been brainwashed to the point to believe that they are no good when in fact Nigerians are the most educated people/immigrants in the United States and possibly the United Kingdom. It's not really their fault. You have lots of Nigerian schools that teach more European history than African history. The question is, what are we going to do to fix this? Many Nigerians for example are completely daft to other countries/regions in Africa even if they are neighbouring countries or regions.

I actually learnt that they've recently dropped the teaching of history in Nigerian secondary schools. You couldn't make it up. I guess that means we should expect even more 'Pagan9jas' in the future. Tragic.

Rossikki:

I actually learnt that they've recently dropped the teaching of history in Nigerian secondary schools. You couldn't make it up. I guess that means we should expect even more 'Pagan9jas' in the future. Tragic.

I heard that they dropped History from a lot of Nigerian Secondary schools as well. I think Pagan9ja is for Africa, though I don't know his agenda in this thread.

What about Haile Selassie

mcfynest:
Genesis 10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

Since africans are from the hamites, and africa was a strong contiment..what happened
THE QUESTION I ASK IS THIS....WHAT HAPPENED TO AFRICA!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BRAVERY AND SUPERIORITY OF OUR FOREFATHERS......

Which superiority? Over whom?

I think History was being taught only to a few

Fulaman198:

I heard that they dropped History from a lot of Nigerian Secondary schools as well. I think Pagan9ja is for Africa, though I don't know his agenda in this thread.

pickabeau1: I think History was being taught only to a few

You could very well be right

Fulaman198:

You could very well be right

It was only taught to the commercial students..... not science students

Those who know of history were self taught