Zeusd3: pls pls stop circlenavigating around the issue still remains... a bicycle repairer can not b d president of NURTW... period..
doctors am behind u guyz
i can spend countless years in school and be adminstrated by an drug administer... NAIJA NA WA OOOO

and who is an drug administer?

...and how is JOHESU akin to ''Joe hates you''? It doesn't make sense to me.

Victomolola: what i'm saying is that, averagely, mbbs has the best students in any school in nigeria!!! Do you agree or we should continue our argument?

Hey man! Quit sulking about MBBS students and out-of-this-world brilliance! I know of a pharmacy student in OAU who had 82.1 in the pre-degree programme,and she gladly chose pharmacy. A university/polytechnic/COE is a repository of students - Excellent,Good,Average et cetera,medical schools are no exceptions! How did you come up with illogical conjecture of Medical school having the best students in Nigeria? Have you tried the students of Law,engineering...?

drered: Lol. Pharmacists go to school to learn how to follow your orders? Loooool.. So what orders do you give academic pharmacists, industrial pharmacists, compounding pharmacists, drug information pharmacists, infectious disease pharmacists, nuclear pharmacists, regulatory pharmacists and public health service pharmacists?

Hope u avnt got any delusonal problem, did i quote any post relating to d pharmacists?
Chai na wa o, defending a profession in d absence of an identifiable inciting stimulus is an hallmark of inferior mentality complex..

drered: . You forgot to add that she was a PHARMACIST and consultant pharmacologist?

Was she a consultant pharmacologist in a hospital? I don't know why JOHESU people find it difficult to understand simple things. NMA is not against anybody been a consultant. But it is not ideal in a hospital setting.

CircleOfWilis: I have a feeling that man knows pharmacy beta than most of u..

yes, just like the Native Doctor knows Medicine than the Physicians sheay?
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thegeneral84:
Though I don't want to sound callous but the raw truth is " Pharmacists (or any other Allied Medical Profession) going on strike alone would have little or no impact", the main reason for their coming together to form JOHESU in the hope that their impact would be felt then. Your reason for staying together is the "collective hatred" for Doctors. There is no way a common hatred can successfully keep two or more persons together. You can't decide to marry a girl only because you both hate say "saloon cars". Sadly, That is what JOHESU is.

we are talking of NAFDAC nt hospital bro

But NAFDAC is not only about drugs, in fact 'food' comes before 'drugs' in it. Microbiologists (perhaps medical microbiologists who are doctors) should be more important in NAFDAC.

nobilis:

You also forgot to add that Dr Paul Orhii is also a consultant pharmacologist.

the ACT stipulates that the DG shud have a good knowledge of PHARMACY not PHARMACOLOGY.

Samgreguc:
Pharmacology isn't Pharmacy. Law doesn't give him good knowledge of Pharmacy.
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Pharmacology is no where near Pharmacy.

Are you Basket Mouth? Your jokes are as good as he's! Amazingly awesome!

kenonze:

its a pity, may his soul RIP.
am pretty worried abt this JOHESU.
They should rethink and do the needful.
A nurse (strong supporter of JOHESU) came to my clinic 2nights ago shouting help help help ....doctor doctor ...my brother is dying, help help... I looked at time, it was 2am, I did the needful and the brother got healed .
earlier before now,
this same nurse said she will not work for any private hospital because we cannot pay what govt pays. she so much detest Doctors to the extent that all my colleagues avoids her.
but when the appointed time came she trace my clinic with her "k-leg ".

Be careful on how you laugh at a berieved because it can happen to anyone...Nurses are not Alpha and Omegas as the doctors claim to be forgetting that it is God who gives total healing.

heykims:
Hope u avnt got any delusonal problem, did i quote any post relating to d pharmacists?
Chai na wa o, defending a profession in d absence of an identifiable inciting stimulus is an hallmark of inferior mentality complex..

Lol. I don't. Can't say the same for you though. Move along now..

leo1234: Was she a consultant pharmacologist in a hospital? I don't know why JOHESU people find it difficult to understand simple things. NMA is not against anybody been a consultant. But it is not ideal in a hospital setting.

Actually she was So tell me more about ideals..

benghaziii: Nigerians are selfish..am nt a doc ooo..bt how would u feel if in a company,a person wif school cert is allowed to head an organization filled wif peepz wif masters. Degree.
How well will u be able to trust his decision making n co...
Johesu...is just fighting a war that is already lost.
Am even disappointed to see pharmacist nurses n physiotherapists amongst dem...total hatred... Nothing else...consultant fire...

God keep us alive, we will wait and see who wins...I only pity the masses.

Zeusd3: pls pls stop circlenavigating around the issue still remains... a bicycle repairer can not b d president of NURTW... period..
doctors am behind u guyz
i can spend countless years in school and be adminstrated by an drug administer... NAIJA NA WA OOOO

If at all you went to school. How many years do you think Doctors spend in school? 20 I guess,,,Olodo..

drered: Actually she was So tell me more about ideals..

Thank you very much for the information. But college of medicine is not a hospital. It is a training center for students. Example of a hospital is UNTH(university of Nigeria teaching hospital)

phillip4re: i am not a medical doctor,but i support this strike..even most nigeria teaching hospitals and medical centres pharmacy are not that functional.most patients go outside the hospital to buy drugs,example,kunle ara pharmacy at uch or akol at lautech teaching hospital ogb.let the hierarchy be well defined.they're not mates in any form

Its only in Nigeria that we swim in anomaly.

Chartey: But NAFDAC is not only about drugs, in fact 'food' comes before 'drugs' in it. Microbiologists (perhaps medical microbiologists who are doctors) should be more important in NAFDAC.

they will go to any length to justify their malpractice. See this illogical reasoning? Better work hard at passing your second MB. Keep supporting blindly.

hybridtm: why so much hate for doctors,in dis country. we just lost a classmate in biochemistry dept, in UNIBEN ....wen we took him 2 UBTH the doctors were on strike and...sincerely the nurses were confused on wat 2 do.
if u can be like them..pls don,t hate dem

I'm really sorry for your loss. I can only imagine the number of people who have directly or indirectly lost their lives in the course of this strike.

retepmurt: Nothing,i mean absolutely nothing wil happen.As a matter of fact,pharmacists only dispense in our govt hospitals in Nigeria. Drugs are being manufactured by the private pharmaceutical companies.

and who controls their products?

leo1234:
Thank you very much for the information. But college of medicine is not a hospital. It is a training center for students. Example of a hospital is UNTH(university of Nigeria teaching hospital)

Training centre? Forgive my ignorance, Pharmacists funtion as consultants in universities?

OkikiOluwa1:
Its all political stuff...
The life of their patients are at stake now!

yea. . . I feel u.

kenonze:

its a pity, may his soul RIP.
am pretty worried abt this JOHESU.
They should rethink and do the needful.
A nurse (strong supporter of JOHESU) came to my clinic 2nights ago shouting help help help ....doctor doctor ...my brother is dying, help help... I looked at time, it was 2am, I did the needful and the brother got healed .
earlier before now,
this same nurse said she will not work for any private hospital because we cannot pay what govt pays. she so much detest Doctors to the extent that all my colleagues avoids her.
but when the appointed time came she trace my clinic with her "k-leg ".

thats ur job u just did u knw.

drered: I'd rather blame PCN than blame you.. If things were the way it should be. Any strike effected by pharmacists would be comprehensive.. Lock down in hospital pharmacies likewise community and industry. Then we'd see how much impact would be felt.. Lol. Common hatred? This is just a comeback from repression that has gone on for so many years. The tides have changed..

You said locked up pharmacies in hospitals.Nurses usually lock up wards so that the impact of their strike can be felt but doctors have no where to lock. They only leave with their knowledge and the impact is immense. Truely doctors deserve applause for this singular uniqueness.

nobilis:

Good. Pharmacy is different than pharmacology. We all agree.

But I now wonder what makes u feel that clinical pharmacy will make u better equipped to take better care of d patient than the doctor can.
Is clinical pharmacy the same thing as Medicine and Surgery?

Clinical Pharmacy is neveq same thing as Med Surg. Clinical Pharmacy is a department in Pharmacy school.
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When it comes to drugs the Pharmacist can do better in terms of Patient care.

DollyParton1:

I thought they know and learnt same things that doctors did in school.
Why couldn't she treat her brother.

she isn't given same training like the Physician as regards to that.

nationwide24: You said locked up pharmacies in hospitals.Nurses usually lock up wards so that the impact of their strike can be felt but doctors have no where to lock. They only leave with their knowledge and the impact is immense. Truely doctors deserve applause for this singular uniqueness.

Look. Pharmacists are the custodian of drugs and by law no pharmacy should function without a pharmacist. So there won't even be any need to get anywhere locked up since it wouldn't be lawful for anywhere to function w/o the input of the pharmacist. Now pharmacy is so diverse that if pharmacists in hospitals are on strike you can always get your drugs in community outlets. A comprehensive strike action will dwarf any strike by any other union or association..

Victomolola: But, in oau that you used as an example; can you please list the cut-off mark of pharmacy and mbbs from 2009/2010 to 2013/2014 both pre degree and jamb so that we will know who is more brilliant.

after all the jamb and post utme expo?
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Hope u knw not all that entered with high scores graduates.

YoungDaNaval: ARE YOU ASKING ME TO DEBATE OR SUGGEST?? I STILL DON'T GET YA POINT MR OP!!

any1

nobilis:

Okay. I love your objective stance.
The thing is, those duties you've mentioned in that post, pharmacists do them now. Other health professionals are also doing their jobs. They don't need to be "consultants" in order to do them.

Then another thing I feel u don't understand is that being a specialist is different from being an honorary consultant. Yes; for doctors you must be a specialist before being appointed an honorary consultant but they are not the same thing.

Just like NMA has said, the word "consultant" in a hospital setting describes a particular relationship. That between a patient and his doctor. That is why NMA said there will confusion in the sector when there are many "consultants" around.

Nobody is saying other health professionals shouldn't specialise in their various fields. I, for one, I know that there are many branches in pharmacy, nursing, medical laboratory science and physiotherapy. Nobody is saying they shouldn't become specialists in their specialties. That is one thing you should understand. They are just muddling everything up and turning issues upside down just to favour their goal.

Oh. I doubt you work in the hospital setting. What I stated was the ideal thing that conforms with international best practise. But right now what pharmacists do in hospitals is pretty much mechanical.. All they do is their traditional role of dispensing. Now PCN took several deans of pharmacy among others abroad to study how Pharm. D which is more clinically oriented and with which pharmacists would be able to do all I stated above works. NUC was given a report and it was to be adopted. Then the doctors as usual started kicking against it saying all we wanted to do was to be called doctors. The govt. saw through it for once and approved it should be run. Then the next thing was for consultant doctors to take it to NIC and the case is pending while status quo is being maintained.

elobyobi:

S0 una get super!0r!ty c0mplex t00, and cla!m d0ct0rs r the 0ny arr0gant 0nes....

Humans and the!r self r!ghte0usness sef

bro, Pharmacology is one of the 5 to 6 departments in Pharmacy.

.Samgreg...frnt page thnx..bro,we go celebrate am for department..#lol..ur argument make sense shaaaa