NewIdeas: House i seriously need info about peugeot 306 wagoon.if you have used it before kindly advise me before i make my decision to buy or not.thanks

Ikenna351: If you stay in Abuja, I would suggest you either go for 206 SW or step up to 406, even if it's D8. Availability of 306 parts in Abuja is a big challenge to owners.

Ikenna

Emperoh:

Got any 206 for sale?
A colleague is in need of one.

smartchoice: for how much?

Emperoh:

What;s your figure?

NewIdeas: Pls do anyone have any positive thing to say about peugeot 306 wagon because i so much love the design shape

CityNG: Some Nigerians love their Kekenapep too, that doesn't make it a top choice.

I'm certain that with little effort I can find a nice little pocket on the internet of folks who adore the Trabant, as an example.

Be careful OP, misery, as they say, loves company.

smartchoice:

Your point exactly?

CityNG:

It's not my job to educate you. If my writings are too difficult for you then saunter onto another post.

NewIdeas: @ikenna351.thanks my bros for that wonderfu contribution.its quite encouraging.

smartchoice:

Make yourself clear so all that visit this thread can benefit.

CityNG:

Everyone except you seems to not have an issue with it.

Perhaps you need to bypass my postings if it continues to cause you angst. I've not violated any of the 21 rules of engagement.

smartchoice:

I may choose to ban you...if you don't explain your post of dispute asap!

CityNG:



My point is that it's not necessary for OP to buy an unpopular, unsupported vehicle in 2014 when there are clearly other much easier to live with vehicles. Most people on NL are buying daily drivers not weekend cars and I don't think most people have standby/support vehicles.

I don't think the OP should be buying Peugeot a brand that is mostly relying on her old laurels (impressive as they were), clearly a Honda, Mazda,Nissan, Toyota are much better choices for Nigeria. Easy to get parts for, common, etc

PS: I enjoyed being banned by the way, it's a badge of honor especially when it's undeserved. That'll be good therapy for both of us. The banner will have lashed out and the bannee would know he pushed the envelope successfully.

PPS: I owned a 505 STX in the US so I have direct experience.

smartchoice:

Interesting please do share your American experience, BTW you just escaped being banned for a few seasons

CityNG:

Peugeot left the US in disgrace in the early 90's due to lackluster sales, lack of proper dealership support hence no parts availability. They haven't returned since while other brands like FIAT and even new ones like Lexus, Infiniti, Kia, Hyundai are here.

The rumor is that Peugeot is either unwilling to certify there cars to meet US safety standards or they are unable to. This is my premise that they are living and relying on past laurels. They entered the US in the 80's when things were lax (no airbags, ABS, side impact beams, etc) but are unable to return when safety standards are much higher. I am suspect of any manufacturer that is not selling in the US market. We are voracious consumers of automotive goods. Even Honda and VW have manufacturing plants (plural) in the US.

So the STX (turbo) was picked up really cheap in early 90s, but surfers from the aforementioned lack of proper dealer network support. Simple things such as oil filter was a chore to get (this was pre eBay/Amazon), you had to go to speciality stores and they treated the parts as if it's made out of gold (much akin to what OP will be getting into in Nigeria).


If OP had said, "hey guys, I'm thinking of adding a Peugeot to my fleet of Citroen and Moskovitch" then my answer would be different. Because that would explain a hardy autoist.

This just seems like an unnecessary desire to inflict automotive pain on oneself. Nigeria is not conducive, yet, to dabbling with cars like this for the novice.

CityNG:



My point is that it's not necessary for OP to buy an unpopular, unsupported vehicle in 2014 when there are clearly other much easier to live with vehicles. Most people on NL are buying daily drivers not weekend cars and I don't think most people have standby/support vehicles.

I don't think the OP should be buying Peugeot a brand that is mostly relying on her old laurels (impressive as they were), clearly a Honda, Mazda,Nissan, Toyota are much better choices for Nigeria. Easy to get parts for, common, etc

PS: I enjoyed being banned by the way, it's a badge of honor especially when it's undeserved. That'll be good therapy for both of us. The banner will have lashed out and the bannee would know he pushed the envelope successfully.

PPS: I owned a 505 STX in the US so I have direct experience.

smartchoice: okay...reasonable view, but the situation may be different in 9ja..given that we have an annex of France Benin Republic next to us, am also skeptical about the Op's choice of a 306 I will encourage him to look more @ the 406.

lomomike:

1) Did you just typed all these? 2) Well lemme burst your bubble. 3) Peugeot is a fantastic vehicle come to Nigeria and see how peugeots are driven mostly brand new (Its even distributed to uniformed officers) and you'd marvel most people I know using peugeots are using them as daily drivers car both for city and inter-states. 4) When we go to the aesthetics, it beats your usual bland toyota, more upscale than your usual toyota econobox, security? 5) Toyota and hondas cry foul and are choice cars for thefts but you can't try that with a BSI equipped peugeot. 6) Handling and driving dynamics arrgh don't even go near there Peugeot supersedes them. 7) Reliability, peugeots are good you don't have to live in a virtual world to read all the garbages written online and digest these junks. Even a toyota and a honda that's over praised for their reliability gets beat down and all you'd ever think of is is this truly a honda or a toyota that's glorified or a highly unpopular vehicle (people will say indian and chinese cars are death traps and are mechanics workshop delight)? 9) Go try a peugeot and you'd be glad you did peugeots need mechanics who understand their system and its working + a PP2000 or lexia scan tool. Fuel economy, peugeot shines where an over glorified japmobile whines. 10) Mind you I still see peugeot 504s, 505, 404 etc when I travel and I'm amazed at these workhorses. 11) Don't look down on a peugeot unless you've driven one or work on one before.
12) Ikenna351 can explain why he's a die-hard leo fan.

CityNG:

Peugeot left the US in disgrace in the early 90's due to lackluster sales, lack of proper dealership support hence no parts availability. They haven't returned since while other brands like FIAT and even new ones like Lexus, Infiniti, Kia, Hyundai are here.

The rumor is that Peugeot is either unwilling to certify there cars to meet US safety standards or they are unable to. This is my premise that they are living and relying on past laurels. They entered the US in the 80's when things were lax (no airbags, ABS, side impact beams, etc) but are unable to return when safety standards are much higher. I am suspect of any manufacturer that is not selling in the US market. We are voracious consumers of automotive goods. Even Honda and VW have manufacturing plants (plural) in the US.

So the STX (turbo) was picked up really cheap in early 90s, but surfers from the aforementioned lack of proper dealer network support. Simple things such as oil filter was a chore to get (this was pre eBay/Amazon), you had to go to speciality stores and they treated the parts as if it's made out of gold (much akin to what OP will be getting into in Nigeria).


If OP had said, "hey guys, I'm thinking of adding a Peugeot to my fleet of Citroen and Moskovitch" then my answer would be different. Because that would explain a hardy autoist.

This just seems like an unnecessary desire to inflict automotive pain on oneself. Nigeria is not conducive, yet, to dabbling with cars like this for the novice.

Ikenna351:

Being a dream killer is one thing, but labeling yourself as a strong one with stinking lies is worrisome. Do you really need to go this extent to kill Ops dream with all these lies above?

1. Peugeot left USA & Canada in 1992 or so because the sale has started dropping, after 505 was declared unsafe for lacking "airbag" only, which has been set a standard in US.



2. So you based your facts on rumor? Did you say Peugeot entered US in the '80s? And did you say Peugeots in US in the '80s had no ABS? Wow!

Peugeot has been in the US since the '60s. Peugeot 404, which the production started in 1960, was sold in US with 3-speed auto transmission. That is, Peugeot introduced auto transmission in 404 in North American market. Even before the 404, it appeared Peugeot sold 403 in US in the '50s as well.

ABS was standard in Peugeot 505 V6 which production started in 1986. All STX had ABS. But the 505 V6 with GLX and S badges in Canada and US had no ABS, because the Teves Mark II ABS Peugeot used then (integral ABS type) was not compatible with the LSD. So the GLX and S badges were produced for those who wanted a V6 and LSD, but would have to sacrifice ABS. While all STX had ABS, including 505 Turbos (phase II). That's why all STX and Turbos had different shock absorbers and alloy wheels, because the conventional alloy wheels on other 505 badges were not compatible on the ABS brake Calipers and rotors which were bigger in size.

Peugeot had no option than to leave those markets because the sales were dropping and the newer products they produced then (205, 405 & 605) had no Airbag as well, which were selling in other regions and continents. So , they left and shifted their focus in those places.



3. Did you say you got 505 " STX Turbo"? On which planet?

Peugeot did not, I repeat it again. Peugeot DID NOT produce any 505 with STX badge that is Turbo engine. All STX 505 had ZN3J engine in them (145 hp). The 505 with STX badges were produced and sold solely in US and Canada. All they all had ZN3J- PRV V6 engine in their engine bays. The other 505 V6 in US that were not STX had either GLX or S badges, with the same 145 hp. While the European spec 505 V6 had 170 hp, the same ZN3J- PRV V6 engine, but tuned to perform aggressively than those sold in US. All 505 V6, no matter the badge, had Naturally Aspirated V6 PRV engine. None had turbo V6 engine, no matter the specifications. Only 505 with Turbo badges had Turbo engines, but none had STX badge. Where then did you buy your 505 STX Turbo? From Jupiter planet?

let's not forget, Peugeot 505 V6 production stopped in 1989, even though 505 production continued. Because the newer PRV engine has been laughed with Peugeot 605 V6, because they have PRV has discontinued ZN3J production.

As anonymous members, its easier for them to come online and claim they own heaven and earth. Its easier for them to even claim they are the President of the country. You should have done your homework well before you come up with those lies, just to kill this guy dream.



For those that stay in Abuja, help me count from today and tomorrow number of Peugeot 306 you find on Abuja road. Even this morning, I counted 2 306 on the road while coming back from Church. I know how many people have brought to me to troubleshoot. Quite a number of 306 are on Abuja road. If they are not getting the parts, how come they keep on the road? But as someone who is into this brand, I would advice anyone interested in 306 to go for one with XU7 (1.8 L) and XU10 (2.0 L) engines, since the parts are very much available. Going for those with 1.4 litre will pose a challenge when something goes wrong with the engine, because something must go wrong someday.

70%, if not more, of shops at Gudu spare markets sells Peugeot parts, both new and used. At APO, we have London Line for European cars, Benz line, Japanese line and Honda Line. What about Peugeot? Peugeot has 3 lines all to itself. The France line, the 406 line 1, and 406 line 2. Yet someone is telling us from there that Peugeot parts are scare in Nigeria. Isn't that interesting?

Ikenna