AlfaSeltzer: But how did the church discover the film?

this is what happens when you comment on a thread without reading the first post.

italo: Still ranting against 'nothing?'

Man innately longs for his maker and source...but the devil sells it to many that they don't have a maker.

So even those who say there's no God will continue to find themselves restless.

They spend their lives fighting against what "doesn't exist."

Deep

AlfaSeltzer: But how did the church discover the film?

Steady church member or even the priest watched it

*********closes mouth hope the priest dnt look at the video

AlfaSeltzer: But how did the church discover the film?

The priest was tipped are you so blind that you didn't read that ? He even warned them not to shoot on the premises , they probably asked him about it before and he objected .

she get special place for hell fire...


Very special space..

Where can I download the porn video, please?
It urgent, need it for a presentation

bad it

What a story!


O mehn!


Shivering*

Katier00: shut up please

Freedom of speech young lady.

I am free to ask and enquire - why are you against discovery by way of questions?

mazaje:

Nigeria is a country that has people living inside of it. . .It has a direction, location land mass and people visit it. . .Describe your god to me and show how it exist on its own. . .If your god is not a man made idea you will not be spending your time, energy and life speaking for it, i thought your god exist on its own can do all things. . why then are you the one speaking for it, defending it and doing everything for it, if is is not just an idea?. . .

Scatter-brained.

First, you said God doesn't exist because different people describe him differently.

I have shown you the foolishness of your thinking. That's how foolish one must be to be an atheist.

Let me show you again how foolish your thinking is:

Can an all-powerful being not make his creature speak for him?

The foolishness of Atheism!

you believe the existence of the devil but you dnt believe the existence of God,

This is one topic that has been in debate over a
decade. The fundamental difference if put it simply,
science is based on evidence and religion is based
on faith. Certain people believe that God exists and
miracles do happen and we all have faith in God
for what he does.
On the contrary, certain people believe that man
has evolved through science and according to
science, many factors could not have had an
explanation as to how it has happened and hence
cannot be believed, as science gives an
explanation to every events occurring.
When an individual has faith in something, he does
not require an evidence to prove what is
happening and this is opposed by a scientific
mind-set. People analyse a situation through
various thinking and it could based on either
religious believes or on scientific thinking and this
is where the confusion arise. A beautiful debate is
being illustrated between Albert Einstein and his
student at one of his class sessions.
Einstein was an atheist and hence he believed that
there is no God and only science existed. In one of
his classes a debate accidentally starts related to
the topic God vs. Science. He asks one of his
students, who are a firm believer in God to answer
to his questions. His questions were simple
initially and he wanted to make sure that the
student was a strong believer in God.
He started the conversation by asking whether God
was good or bad and what would the student do if
he had the powers to heal a sick and dying
person? The student readily said he would heal. To
this Einstein says that he lost his brother, who
suffered cancer but was a strong believer in God
and why God did not help.
He also continues stating that it was god who
created Satan and thus that was how evil came to
existence and he concludes his conversation by
stating that we have five sense organs and unless
by any of these sense organs if we have not
experience God, then how could we believe that
god exists. It is only by faith and not by evidence
that we believe, God exists.
To this his students counter through various
simple scientific questions. The student then
reciprocates by asking the professor whether there
is heat and cold. The professor readily answers a
yes to it for which the student boldly says there is
nothing as such called cold. This really astonished
Einstein. The student then explains that heat as
many levels and could go to any extreme, but the
condition when heat is not present is what is cold.
In simple statement says, heat could be measured,
but cold could not be.
Similarly the student explains about light and
darkness where he explains that in the absence of
light is what we call darkness and it cannot be
measured at different grades like we do for lights.
This comparison and question made Einstein think
and asked the student for an explanation as to
what he was trying to say.
The student explains that Einstein was trying to
explain to the class that there was life and death,
there is good and bad and that since we cannot
measure God and which is not finite, how could we
believe in God. Similarly, science cannot explain a
thought on it own. It uses electricity and
magnetism, but has never seen either of these and
thus he puts a simple question to Einstein,
whether man evolved from monkey ??
Towards the end of the debate, he simply puts
forward a question to his fellow mates which was
very interesting and in-fact left Einstein
dumbstruck. He simple asked whether anyone has
seen, felt or smelt the brain of Einstein, to which
everyone was surprised. It is a matter of faith that
we believe that he has great brains and is a
scientist. Similarly everything in this universe
could not be sensed by the sense organs, but at
times it is on faith that we believe facts.
The student here through simple and counter
questions make the professor believe that certain
facts are build on science and there are certain
other factors that we have to believe on faith. It is
neither science nor religion that competes, but just
the thoughts and believes of man that competes.
Simply said, without science we cannot progress
and without God we cannot conquer. Both go hand
in hand.
Yet the debate continues………..

This is dearly so bad b ut come to think,how manage the porn crew got into the church without the notice of anybody?These is the devil at work,between the Rvd Father is the prime suspect here!*GBAM*

Weah96:

You claim that your deity is not only real but all powerful, yet you spend all day defending him like a councillor. For weeks now, this deity hasn't spoken one single word to me. Only you and your kind are here.

nobody is defending God, WE ARE PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD, YOU DO NOT FIGHT BATTLE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY WON.

Firstly, Happy sunday Nairalanders
Secondly, Na wa o!

mmsen: Is this worse than what happened to the thousands of poor children inside church buildings at the hands of priests.

wats ur point niqqa

Bigzig: This is dearly so bad b ut come to think,how manage the porn crew got into the church without the notice of anybody?These is the devil at work,between the Rvd Father is the prime suspect here!*GBAM*

In places like Austria, Churches are often desolate...not as busy as you have here.

It's much easier to do something like that there.

italo:

Scatter-brained.

First, you said God doesn't exist because different people describe him differently.

I have shown you the foolishness of your thinking. That's how foolish one must be to be an atheist.

Let me show you again how foolish your thinking is:

Can an all-powerful being not make his creature speak for him?

The foolishness of Atheism!

You have not shown the foolishness of my thinking , you have only shown your own delusions. . .If your god exist then people should be able to have a specific description of it. . . You can NOT even describe your god to me yet you are busy talking about how people describe it differently, pls describe your god to me. . .An all powerful god makes his crations speak to him how? Through islam, christianity, hinduism, shinto etc?. . .All these religions and the god they talk about are man made ideas as such it must be men that will have to keep telling others about this idea that they created. . Men must promote islam because men created that culture, men must promote Catholicism because it is a man made culture, your god remains a man made idea as such only men and their writings, ideas, perception and conception can be used when talking about your god. . you can not show your god without human input because he is a human idea end of story. . .

his is wat the moderator want, they
don't want evangelism thread on
frontpage, only thread that is against the
bible, just to mock God, if it the muslim
thread, it either a thread about a
christian who convert or ramadan thread, well, am not surprise but one thin I know,
either the devil like it or not THE GOSPEL
SHALL BE PREACH AND THEN THE END
WILL COME.
LET ME USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY
ONE OR TWO THIN TO MY BRETHREN. psalm 11:3.if the foundation is faulty,
what can the righteous do? .david ask the
question because the foundation of adam
and eve is faulty, the weakness start
when satan descive adam and eve. So
david ask this important question, God will not leave anytin untouched, man
need a new foundation to start, God
created us in his image, this make us
Godly, but when adam fall God take away
the Godliness, is like satan sink our solid
foundation which is Godliness, that why david ask the question IF THE
FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD IS FAULTY,
WHAT CAN THE RIGHTEOUS DO?notice,
david did not say what CAN mankind do?
But he said , what can the righteous do?
The question is WHO WILL UNITE US BACK TO GODLINESS? This is the reason jesus
has to be born of THE SPIRIT OF GOD, TO
UNITE US BACK TO GODLINESS, no other
prophet has the nature of Godliness , they
all have the foam of Godliness, isaiah say,
he is our solid foundation, the chief conner stone.
John10:9.I am the door;by me if any man
enter in, he shall be save and he shall go
in and out and find pasture.
John 10:11. I am the good shepherd, the
good shepherd give his life for his sheep. John10:14.i am the good shepherd, my
sheep know me and I know
them..........18.no man can take them out
of my hand,
John15:1. i am the true vine and my
father is the husbandman.......4.abide in me and I in you as the branch cannot bear
fruit of it self.
Revelation1:18. I am he that liveth and
was dead behold am alive forevermore
amen, and have takin the key of hell and death.he want us to have a relationship with
him as a family, christian , muslim etc God
don't ask us to be any of them, you just
need to confess jesus and be born again
start your new foundation with God, the foundation of adam is faulty and man
cannot dwell in it, this is the ONLY
REASON YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN. Thank
you for your time.

Op where the video link na

did the church watch the film......curious

Weah96: Here in Atlanta, churches are routinely robbed during the collection of offerings. Armed robbers enter while service is ongoing and demand the cash in the plates. Many of the more affluent churches though, have armed security posted at the doors while the members are paying the pastor with their cash. After all the money has been collected, the armed security leaves and service resumes as if nothing happened. Another problem of late for the churches in Atlanta is the vandalism of their property for copper and other metals that can be resold. Members are showing up for church only to find out that everything metallic has disappeared. AC units, insulated wires, even whole meter boxes.

U don't mean to tell dat dis type of crime goes on in a whole America.

italo: It's just the devil using men.

He makes them want to desecrate anything that is of God.

Just like the ones that claim to not believe God's existence, yet spend their whole life on nairaland ranting against him.

So on point, I use to think when one don't believe in a thing he will be indifferent whatsoever? But not for our NL so called atheists.

'Edited'

Wow, I just realized its u I quoted, first time I am agreeing with u on this forum. That's to show u ow sincere I am in my discourse with u while u seem to be always prejudiced.

omoadeleye: you believe the existence of the devil but you dnt believe the existence of God,

This is one topic that has been in debate over a
decade. The fundamental difference if put it simply,
science is based on evidence and religion is based
on faith. Certain people believe that God exists and
miracles do happen and we all have faith in God
for what he does.
On the contrary, certain people believe that man
has evolved through science and according to
science, many factors could not have had an
explanation as to how it has happened and hence
cannot be believed, as science gives an
explanation to every events occurring.
When an individual has faith in something, he does
not require an evidence to prove what is
happening and this is opposed by a scientific
mind-set. People analyse a situation through
various thinking and it could based on either
religious believes or on scientific thinking and this
is where the confusion arise. A beautiful debate is
being illustrated between Albert Einstein and his
student at one of his class sessions.
Einstein was an atheist and hence he believed that
there is no God and only science existed. In one of
his classes a debate accidentally starts related to
the topic God vs. Science. He asks one of his
students, who are a firm believer in God to answer
to his questions. His questions were simple
initially and he wanted to make sure that the
student was a strong believer in God.
He started the conversation by asking whether God
was good or bad and what would the student do if
he had the powers to heal a sick and dying
person? The student readily said he would heal. To
this Einstein says that he lost his brother, who
suffered cancer but was a strong believer in God
and why God did not help.
He also continues stating that it was god who
created Satan and thus that was how evil came to
existence and he concludes his conversation by
stating that we have five sense organs and unless
by any of these sense organs if we have not
experience God, then how could we believe that
god exists. It is only by faith and not by evidence
that we believe, God exists.
To this his students counter through various
simple scientific questions. The student then
reciprocates by asking the professor whether there
is heat and cold. The professor readily answers a
yes to it for which the student boldly says there is
nothing as such called cold. This really astonished
Einstein. The student then explains that heat as
many levels and could go to any extreme, but the
condition when heat is not present is what is cold.
In simple statement says, heat could be measured,
but cold could not be.
Similarly the student explains about light and
darkness where he explains that in the absence of
light is what we call darkness and it cannot be
measured at different grades like we do for lights.
This comparison and question made Einstein think
and asked the student for an explanation as to
what he was trying to say.
The student explains that Einstein was trying to
explain to the class that there was life and death,
there is good and bad and that since we cannot
measure God and which is not finite, how could we
believe in God. Similarly, science cannot explain a
thought on it own. It uses electricity and
magnetism, but has never seen either of these and
thus he puts a simple question to Einstein,
whether man evolved from monkey ??
Towards the end of the debate, he simply puts
forward a question to his fellow mates which was
very interesting and in-fact left Einstein
dumbstruck. He simple asked whether anyone has
seen, felt or smelt the brain of Einstein, to which
everyone was surprised. It is a matter of faith that
we believe that he has great brains and is a
scientist. Similarly everything in this universe
could not be sensed by the sense organs, but at
times it is on faith that we believe facts.
The student here through simple and counter
questions make the professor believe that certain
facts are build on science and there are certain
other factors that we have to believe on faith. It is
neither science nor religion that competes, but just
the thoughts and believes of man that competes.
Simply said, without science we cannot progress
and without God we cannot conquer. Both go hand
in hand.
Yet the debate continues………..

Guy u sef no try..see as u jst consume space illegally!*Debate continues#

chinweub: [size=14pt].....Walter confirmed that he had not granted the film crew permission to shoot on the premises. Father Walter was also the one to discover that his church had been used as a makeshift porn studio, after an anonymous tipster alerted him to the videos online....

So did the Father actually watch the p0r.n flick to confirm that it was his church premises...or how was he sure it was his premises before reporting to the police?

Bigzig: Guy u sef no try..see as u jst consume space illegally!*Debate continues#

illegally as how? , you wan build mansion untop am?

this is one the reason, muslims always want to kill them.
Some people are just devilish and deserve to be killed

Pls who knows the website the video is @. Just for confirmation tht it was shoot in a church.

italo: To see the devil, close your eyes and look within you.

Ah! That's impossible for an Atheist to do right?
You can't see without your eyes. How limited!

But, there is the devil!

Then he's within you, for threatening me with torture for refusing to acknowledge an imaginary friendship. The Muslims and Jews agree with me, that the devil is in you. The difference is that they blame Paul for putting it there.

AlfaSeltzer: But how did the church discover the film?

Ahan!Alfa I don't like it o,let's visualize it together now,tipster downloads the film and was like he tells father>>>>>>> father was like *brother tipster you need to come for confession,you have watched a mojo. Father downloads secretly and was like *holy mary salvum me fac, et a peccato* he tells congregation during mass>>>>>>>>> they download======more traffic to the site.The father has indeed led them astray,he should have ignored.