Ashuale: Nigerians and titles. First day in NYSC camp bayelsa, doctors were asked to come out. Nine persons came out.we were introduced as the doctors for the camp.when we started the camp clinic, we discovered 2 doctors had IMPAIRED MEDICAL JUDGEMENT, patients under their care were getting worse, on investigation, they confessed that they were doctors of optometry.we were shocked.those promising graduates could have died. We need to bring sanity to the health system, we need to remove confusion, we need to stick to our job prescription, we need to love our job be u a nurse, a pharmacist, a lab scientist, a cleaner, a doctor. Inferiority complex and hatred are diseases and they plaguing our health sector. The public is heavily misinformed by JOHESU, they are even more active in this strike spreading misleading information.

ogawisdom:

Sometimes I wonder y first degree holders with mere mbbs r called doc as if they ve phds. They shld b called physicians until they advance in their field. D real docs r phd holders.
U can b a doc in any field once u bag a doctorate degree. B educated son

Ayanko: The Lawyer that collect 10% and Achitect 3.5%. Ask that fool called Majority leader are they Goverment Employee.

chucs: So you know about that and you did not Include that in a normal country doctors do their work and forget about Hospital administration? Nurses do their duties, they don't carry out orders please. A nurse is not answerable to a doctor,get it correct.

Ashuale: Nigerians and titles. First day in NYSC camp bayelsa, doctors were asked to come out. Nine persons came out.we were introduced as the doctors for the camp.when we started the camp clinic, we discovered 2 doctors had IMPAIRED MEDICAL JUDGEMENT, patients under their care were getting worse, on investigation, they confessed that they were doctors of optometry.we were shocked.those promising graduates could have died. We need to bring sanity to the health system, we need to remove confusion, we need to stick to our job prescription, we need to love our job be u a nurse, a pharmacist, a lab scientist, a cleaner, a doctor. Inferiority complex and hatred are diseases and they plaguing our health sector. The public is heavily misinformed by JOHESU, they are even more active in this strike spreading misleading information.

Ashuale: Nigerians and titles. First day in NYSC camp bayelsa, doctors were asked to come out. Nine persons came out.we were introduced as the doctors for the camp.when we started the camp clinic, we discovered 2 doctors had IMPAIRED MEDICAL JUDGEMENT, patients under their care were getting worse, on investigation, they confessed that they were doctors of optometry.we were shocked.those promising graduates could have died. We need to bring sanity to the health system, we need to remove confusion, we need to stick to our job prescription, we need to love our job be u a nurse, a pharmacist, a lab scientist, a cleaner, a doctor. Inferiority complex and hatred are diseases and they plaguing our health sector. The public is heavily misinformed by JOHESU, they are even more active in this strike spreading misleading information.

deols:

Dont you say that, man.

An average Nigerian is uneducated. In fact more than an average is. A nurse's experience is not in the field of diagnosis and treatment. A nurse's 30yrs experience only supersedes that of junior nurses. Not a doctor's.

The rigorous training of doctors ensures that they are competent enough to do what they are to do at each stage of their training(n.b doctors train for life)

I Must say that an average Nigerian Doctor is GOod(or stuffed as they say). The people need to be more trusting and appreciative of their efforts. I have met a good number and I'm very impressed at how much they can do with the little resources at their disposal.

I expect the public to be demanding answers from the government. Y would a responsible government allow the health system to go down for this long?? And allow the masses suffer??


Johesu members av bn going to work doing nothing all d while. Doesn't that even show that the reason patients come to the hospital is to consult with doctors(physicians?).

And no, the CMd can only be a doctor. Allowing others is only to create an impending chaos. Why can't the government see that?

JONA Just has to go. It is unthinkable that all sorts of civil unrest keep happening under a government. Tjis is a spineless government.

dumodust:

Stop lying just to misinform the public who know better than you...do nurses just coast around in the hospital? Have u been to sny 'normal' country? The doctors write the orders down regard less of their level and the nurse, whether she's 100yrs in service,carries out the order. The thing they get away with in nigeria is called negligence, dont do it anywhere else (especially if u dont have a reason and havent conferred with the doc) or find yourself facing several panels and lawsuits

chucs: you are the one lying and misinforming the public..what order are you writting about here?

ottizz:

A physician is trained to manage patients but not trained to manage a health-system. In fact many physicians are bad managers, not because they are not smart, but because they are not cost-benefit smart. In fact a lot of hospitals in the mid-west of the US has nurses as their COO. This is why a lot of MDs are now going for their MBAs, simply because they were not adequately prepared for management positions in medical school. This current conundrum can be rectified by the government if an office of CEO is created while also retaining the CMD. Chief medical director in its current form is a misnomer. CMD should not be the person in charge of the medical center but rather the person that is responsible for management of the physicians and patients. And this position should only be reserved to the physicians. CMD should be on the same level as the Chief nursing officer (CNO), who is responsible for the management of nurses. Management of the medical center should be reserved to the CEO and COO, and should be based on their experience in hospital management rather than how well one knows the human physiology and anatomy. Anyone, therefore, can be the CEO if qualified.

dumodust:
my friend, if you dont know anything and havent worked in a hospital... stop talking like u know better
Orders are written on paper on tabs kept near the pts bed... prescription s and how to be given, fluid, how much of what to take etc and it is the duty of the nurse to be guided by it in doing her work. There's transfusion order, post op order...
ok, i know what your problem is... nigerians smh... because it is called an order makes it demeaning shebi?
do you work in a hospital? ... if u dont... dont reply, someone else should

YourHealthlabs:

Village man..

Now let's take a cursory look at the word "doctor" you've been mouthing all over(as if you invented it in your grandfather's backyard). Open your dictionary and read the different meanings the word "doctor".

It is derived from latin word "docere" meaning "to teach".

In no particular order, a doctor is----->

1. In education; teacher or scholar: a teacher or somebody very knowledgeable.


2. somebody with highest university degree: a title given to somebody who has been awarded a doctorate, the highest level of degree awarded by a university

3. Roman Catholic theologian: in the earlier history of the Roman Catholic Church, an eminent and influential theologian.

4. medic, dentist, veterinarian, or osteopath: a title used before the names of health professionals such as physicians, dentists, veterinarians, and osteopath

5. somebody who can fix things: a skilled practitioner of something, especially fixing or improving something.


Have you noticed you can't protect that title 'doctor" for your benefit alone unlike the "Biomedical scientists" and "pharmacists" in UK protect theirs and make it criminal for any other person to use.

I'm sorry, you can't sue anyone who addresses himself as a "doctor" even if he is a mechanic(check no5 definition). So sweat less

rhemal:



HARD FACTS

but really,I'll rather put my trust on someone with long experience rather than someone with certificate....

chucs: Thanks for the reply. First and foremost I'm working in a fed. Hosp. and that is the second time I'm working in a govt establishment. The resaon why I quoted you was because I wanted to know the order you were writing about. You mentioned the word order as if u were ordering your servant. Mind you some orders are questionable. By knowing my problem you meant English right? You don't know it better if I must tell you.

deols:

And what is ur job specification in that hospital?

Are u one of the consultant orderlies?

dumodust:

Hahaha... here we go again, professor of orders, bottom line is that u are guided and take 'orders' whether directly or indirectly and whether you're a servant or not, working for free or paid...or do you go wandering about the hospital pouncing on patients?
and what exactly are u talking about? Know what better? Carry your complex comot abeg... I'm just making sure u dont tell people rubbish... misinformer forming like he is independent

joker5180: " doctor of medical lab science" is next, I think they are still 'googling' to find out if it is been offered in UK or US

Samgreguc:
ok.
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In inference, our patient should remain ignorant.

ottizz:

A physician is trained to manage patients but not trained to manage a health-system. In fact many physicians are bad managers, not because they are not smart, but because they are not cost-benefit smart. In fact a lot of hospitals in the mid-west of the US has nurses as their COO. This is why a lot of MDs are now going for their MBAs, simply because they were not adequately prepared for management positions in medical school. This current conundrum can be rectified by the government if an office of CEO is created while also retaining the CMD. Chief medical director in its current form is a misnomer. CMD should not be the person in charge of the medical center but rather the person that is responsible for management of the physicians and patients. And this position should only be reserved to the physicians. CMD should be on the same level as the Chief nursing officer (CNO), who is responsible for the management of nurses. Management of the medical center should be reserved to the CEO and COO, and should be based on their experience in hospital management rather than how well one knows the human physiology and anatomy. Anyone, therefore, can be the CEO if qualified.

chucs: Thanks for the reply. First and foremost I'm working in a fed. Hosp. and that is the second time I'm working in a govt establishment. The resaon why I quoted you was because I wanted to know the order you were writing about. You mentioned the word order as if u were ordering your servant. Mind you some orders are questionable. By knowing my problem you meant English right? You don't know it better if I must tell you.

chucs: I have few words to say to you and that will be my last time of quoting you. You are a very stupid fellow. Such a shame that you are a doctor!!

chucs: So you know about that and you did not Include that in a normal country doctors do their work and forget about Hospital administration? Nurses do their duties, they don't carry out orders please. A nurse is not answerable to a doctor,get it correct.

Joejonah:

hope you are not studying medicine too with this your English??

Oduduwaboy:

Dear ' Dr' YourHealthlabs how you? Am sure you like that title? But please note that presently in the United States Different states are passing legislations to restrict the use of the honorific 'Dr' to Medical doctors alone within the hospital environment. This was done because of Primitive Impostors like you.
Within the hospital your Ph.d does not count!!! Hope you get this into your very dull brain. Cheers!

chucs: I have few words to say to you and that will be my last time of quoting you. You are a very stupid fellow. Such a shame that you are a doctor!!

YourHealthlabs:

Passing legislation?...hahahaha

and you that's the first time they tried it?. Brother, it has been shot down several times. There are PhD-consultant health professionals in Teaching hospitals and they are well represented in the American Congress.

There are Nurses, pharmacists and Scientists with PhD in the hospital environment. They only explain and emphasize their field after introducing themselves to patients and relatives which aligns with common sense.

The reason why you can't stop anyone from using that title anywhere in the world is obvious just take a look at the origin of the word---->

"Docere" (latin=to teach);

Ashuale: Nigerians and titles. First day in NYSC camp bayelsa, doctors were asked to come out. Nine persons came out.we were introduced as the doctors for the camp.when we started the camp clinic, we discovered 2 doctors had IMPAIRED MEDICAL JUDGEMENT, patients under their care were getting worse, on investigation, they confessed that they were doctors of optometry.we were shocked.those promising graduates could have died. We need to bring sanity to the health system, we need to remove confusion, we need to stick to our job prescription, we need to love our job be u a nurse, a pharmacist, a lab scientist, a cleaner, a doctor. Inferiority complex and hatred are diseases and they plaguing our health sector. The public is heavily misinformed by JOHESU, they are even more active in this strike spreading misleading information.

dumodust:
its unfortunate you dont know your job description.., I just pushed it to your face... silly misinformer, be proud of your profession and what exactly u do

dumodust:
so you're still doing this fruitless manual labour on your keyboard? Hmmm
And now u teach latin? Docere and doctor dont sound the same to me and to the patients Carry your village titles to ojuelegba, not hospital

chucs: You are saying that If a nurse,pharmacist etc bags a doctorate degree they won't be referred to as Doctors?

YourHealthlabs:

Stop being frustrated that everyone is demystifying you and making things abundantly clear to our ignorant people/patient. I understand, you should be worried, i would too.

But the truth must be told.

If you were so keen about the origin of pre-historic allopathic medicine revolving around the physician only. Why shouldn't you be interested in the origin of the title(doctor) you seek to monopolize even to the detriment of well lettered PhD holders compared to your Fellowship diplomas?.

What are you guys really afraid of?. Patient's and Nigerian's gaining more knowledge about International best health practices?