Viable:

WHY MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS AND AND THEIR LEADERS WILL MISS HEAVEN!

Behold the LORD maketh the Earth empty, and maketh it waste,and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

And it shall be, as with the people so with the 'priest' (pastors,Reverends,Apostles, Bishops, popes, Evangelists,Elders,Deacons etc)

as with the servaant, so with his master, as with the maid, so with her mistress, as with the buyer, so with the seller, as with the Lender, so with the borrower, as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

-Therefore hath the curse devoured the Earth , and they that dwell therein are desolate therefore, the inhabitants of the Earth are burned, and FEW MEN LEFT.(Isaiah 24:1-6)

Viable:

Pilgrim, thanks for that  comment. By GOD'S grace i won't be among the majority besides i won't like to be lonely in Heaven. where do you want to be? Among the MAJORITY or the FAITHFUL FEW?

OLAADEGBU:

@Bobbyaf,

I am satisfied with the fact that your church (The Seventh Day Adventists) teaches and believes the orthodox biblical teaching concerning the Trinity, the deity and incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ, including His virgin birth, the Lord's bodily resurrection and ascension to heaven, and the prospect of His personal return to earth in glory. The sinfulness of human nature, salvation through faith in Christ alone and the necessity of the new birth which are all confirmed by you guys. These are the fundamental issues that will determine our destinies. Hence, I extend my hand of friendship and brotherhood to you, we are brothers and sisters in Christ as we look forward to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in glory. Nevertheless, I still think we should endeavour to study the whole truth and abide by it even when others are compromising with the evolutionist atheists. It was Adrian Rogers that said "It is better to be divided in truth than to be united in error, it is better to speak truth that hurts and then heals than to speak a lie; it is better to be hated for telling the truth than to be loved for telling a lie; it is better to stand alone with truth than to be wrong with the multitude . . . The religion of today is 'get-along-ism.' It is time for men and women of God to stand,[even] if they have to stand alone."

However, we still differ on some teachings which I believe you have deviated from such as your teaching on the seventh-day sabbath, conditional immortality, investigative judgment, the heavenly sanctuary and the claim that Ellen White was a divinely appointed messenger of God.

It seems to me that you are making the same mistakes that the Galatian Christians whom Paul rebuked in Galatians 3:1-5 who were reverting back to the law instead of being led by the Spirit. Paul's warning and pronouncement in Gal.1:6-9 should be heeded. This is similar to the errors of the RCC who are now adding works and tradition to their faith so as to be saved, we are saved by faith alone, not plus works , and as you have rightly said earlier, that 'works' is only a product of our faith in Christ. It seems that you have taken the gospel according to Ellen White who claimed that she saw a vision of the ark and the 10 commandments in heaven, and the 4th commandment with a halo around it and she interpreted this as being that Christians are not keeping this law. You take her word as the word of God and this may explain why you keep insisting on the keeping the Jewish Sabbath law. You must have forgotten or not taken notice that she was convinced that the prediction of your founder William Miller, that Christ's return was imminent to take place in 10 October 1843 and that He would set up His kingdom in America was the accurate prediction, she was again proved to be wrong. The following morning of this 'great disappointment' is the time she now saw this supposed vision that you are now running with, trying to use the scriptures to justify her vision.

My sincere appeal to you and your members is to watch and pray so that you will not fall into the same trap that the RCC have fallen into who are now praying to the dead, a thing that the Lord has forbidden in His commandment. Paul said "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." One of the signs that a Christian church is heading towards being a cult is when they isolate themselves thinking that they are the only ones keeping the commandments of God. The Lord says "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." Rev. 2:5. For these reasons, let us put our argument aside and reach out to the lost who are groping in darkness, who Satan has blinded their minds from seeing the blessings of the gospel truth that has replaced the shadows and ceremonies of the old covenant.

As for the rest especially Bastage, huxley and KunleOshob, it will do you a lot good if you can take the time to watch the videoclips posted and reflect on where you will spend your eternity. May the Lord give you eyes that can see and ears that can hear and hearts that will perceive the light of the glorious gospel and that the daystar will appear in your hearts.

OLAADEGBU:


@Viable,

Below is the quotation of what I said to your fellow seventh day Adventist, but up till now I am still waiting for his response, perhaps you will have something to say about the issues I raised in the post below.

Quote from: OLAADEGBU on March 19, 2009, 04:28 PM
@Bobbyaf,

I am satisfied with the fact that your church (The Seventh Day Adventists) teaches and believes the orthodox biblical teaching concerning the Trinity, the deity and incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ, including His virgin birth, the Lord's bodily resurrection and ascension to heaven, and the prospect of His personal return to earth in glory. The sinfulness of human nature, salvation through faith in Christ alone and the necessity of the new birth which are all confirmed by you guys.

These are the fundamental issues that will determine our destinies. Hence, I extend my hand of friendship and brotherhood to you, we are brothers and sisters in Christ as we look forward to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in glory.

Nevertheless, I still think we should endeavour to study the whole truth and abide by it even when others are compromising with the evolutionist atheists.

It was Adrian Rogers that said
"It is better to be divided in truth than to be united in error,
it is better to speak truth that hurts and then heals than to speak a lie;
it is better to be hated for telling the truth than to be loved for telling a lie;
it is better to stand alone with truth than to be wrong with the multitude . . .

The religion of today is 'get-along-ism.'
It is time for men and women of God to stand, [even] if they have to stand alone."

However, we still differ on some teachings which I believe you have deviated from such as your teaching on the seventh-day sabbath, conditional immortality, investigative judgment, the heavenly sanctuary and the claim that Ellen White was a divinely appointed messenger of God.

It seems to me that you are making the same mistakes that the Galatian Christians whom Paul rebuked in Galatians 3:1-5 who were reverting back to the law instead of being led by the Spirit.

Paul's warning and pronouncement in Gal.1:6-9 should be heeded.

This is similar to the errors of the RCC who are now adding works and tradition to their faith so as to be saved, we are saved by faith alone, not plus works , and as you have rightly said earlier, that 'works' is only a product of our faith in Christ.

It seems that you have taken the gospel according to Ellen White who claimed that she saw a vision of the ark and the 10 commandments in heaven, and the 4th commandment with a halo around it and she interpreted this as being that Christians are not keeping this law.

You take her word as the word of God and this may explain why you keep insisting on the keeping the Jewish Sabbath law.

You must have forgotten or not taken notice that she was convinced that the prediction of your founder William Miller, that Christ's return was imminent to take place in 10 October 1843 and that He would set up His kingdom in America was the accurate prediction, she was again proved to be wrong.

The following morning of this 'great disappointment' is the time she now saw this supposed vision that you are now running with, trying to use the scriptures to justify her vision.

My sincere appeal to you and your members is to watch and pray so that you will not fall into the same trap that the RCC have fallen into who are now praying to the dead, a thing that the Lord has forbidden in His commandment.

Paul said
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."

One of the signs that a Christian church is heading towards being a cult is when they isolate themselves thinking that they are the only ones keeping the commandments of God.

The Lord says
"Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." Rev. 2:5.

For these reasons, let us put our argument aside and reach out to the lost who are groping in darkness, who Satan has blinded their minds from seeing the blessings of the gospel truth that has replaced the shadows and ceremonies of the old covenant.

As for the rest especially Bastage, Huxley and KunleOshob, it will do you a lot good if you can take the time to watch the videoclips posted and reflect on where you will spend your eternity.

May the Lord give you eyes that can see and ears that can hear and hearts that will perceive the light of the glorious gospel and that the daystar will appear in your hearts.

So Bobbyaf is Seventh Day Adventist.

I vividly recall a couple of people, in the past, trying prise out of him which "organised church" he attends/fellowships.

He wasn't obliging then so when did he make the disclosure he is Seventh Day Adventist.

I aint got beef with Seventh Day Adventist or Bobbyaf.

Just didnt sense or saw Bobbyaf as a/the denominational type.
- no skin off my nose.

Hey just for a laugh, game to spot an organised church.

JJYOU:


heaven.

OLAADEGBU:


@Recognise,

Nice to see you are back with a bang, especially with your illuminating, hilarious and humourous captions to brighten up a dull day. 

Bobbyaff and Viable seems to be members of the SDA which is not surprising due to their passionate emphasis on the Jewish Sabbath day.  I can only hope that they respond to my question in the post below.

I agree with you that after the seven year period in heaven with our Lord we will come back with Christ to reign in the millenial reign. May we all be ready when the Lord shall come for His own. In Jesus' name.

@OLAADEGBU

My fellow lord, how's the fort?

Ah, it's just the occasional time steal/sneak posting now and then, here and there.

If you want to confab, drop me a line and I'll holler back asap.

You know how we do it