IbrahimMav: Allah's way is d the true way.

TheBigUrban2:


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joseph1013:

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I agree. It should not be a place to be overly negative and be an avenue of religious bashing. Despite my knowledge level of both sides, I still resist calling the religious unintelligent. In my interactions, I prefer laying down facts and leave those who want to consider them to do so. I rarely bash religion on nairaland. I'm just not interested in the ego-driven arguments. I do my sports and occassional politics jejely on nairaland.

To those sending me PMs (I've seen three already) telling me what I'm losing in Christianity, I understand your concerns and love. I'm not angry at god. Infact I still consciously look for evidences to be a Christian again but all the facts fall flat and can't stand up to honest scrutiny. I really do want to believe again! Who wants to be alienated from loving friends and families? I have led men to Christ and evangelized earnestly. An awkward moment came a few months ago when someone I had led to Christ in the Universirty came up to me and thanked me profusely because according to him, his christianity helped him in his trying time years later after encountering Christ.

But I can't see reasons to believe. I dare any sincere christian to pick up 'Why I believed' by Kenneth Daniels (It's available freely online) and read it with an open mind.

There is nothing to be gained for living an illusion. WE ONLY GOT ONE LIFE!
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RayMcBlue:

Awww! So that's the cause of the grievance? Well, truth hurts, get over it. And do some growing up while you're at it. Your online behaviour is so juvenile.

IbrahimMav:


it has been said:

يُرِيدُونَ لِيُطْفِئُوا نُورَ اللَّهِ بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَاللَّهُ مُتِمُّ نُورِهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْكَافِرُونَ

They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths but Allah will perfect His light, though the unbelievers may be averse.

Embrace Islam and be saved. May the light of Allah shine upon u.

RayMcBlue:

Awww! So that's the cause of the grievance? Well, truth hurts, get over it. And do some growing up while you're at it. Your online behaviour is so juvenile.

harde2lah:
hey guy, fvck off from this thread if you have no meaningful contributions

freethinker01: The tread is meant for those that are interested in joining, not for those that have some reasons for not joining. I think it's you that actually need some growing up or maybe you just don't have the ability to comprehend. Stay the Bleep off this thread niqqa.

harde2lah:
BALDERDASH!

NoContract: Yea. I'm torn between an Agnostic Theist and Agnostic Athiest.

blackprowler:

Just drop your contacts on the e-mail provided and we can have discussions in our group

Xcapist: John1013 has so perfectly expressed where I'm coming from in my journey of unbelief in a way I probably couldn't have ever articulated myself - I also use to belong to the tongue talking, demon chasing, fire brand before I got too inquisitive.
*tips hat* you're just so brilliant bro!
And I think the idea for a physical club like the one being hatched is plausible, even though it'll be too risky for people like me, considering my location, if the purpose of such a meeting is overt. I'm from the northeastern part of the country (boko haram zone :/ ) so you can only imagine the joy of finding people like you on nairaland! It's like Manny in Ice Age meeting Ellie! And then relief to know that there are lots of equally "crazy" (and even crazier) folks here in naija.

I kinda understand where the McRay guy is coming from too, like, the last thing I would do after finding this new freedom to be unclassified (because I'm still in the process of really establishing a worldview) and to live my ONE LIFE peacefully is to have another label slapped on me, or falling into the mental shackles of another (quasi-)organized religion... though the dude was quite rude frankly but it's probably because he hasn't quite understood the aims of such a group and apparently has not experienced the alienation, persecution and even threat to life that comes with our lack of belief. With the bloodthirsty maniac bigots of my region, I've remained a closet skeptic, (never passing the opportunity to drop some logic bombs, here and there, when ever I can though) I've been called an Illuminati, antichrist, "psycho" and some nasty things in the past and as you may know very well it gets lonely, people become more and more suspicious of everything you say, do or even think... you can't genuinely hold any deep intellectual discus or talk about controversial social issue with your old friends or family members, you just have to fly solo (and sometimes still have the misfortune of wasting your ONE LIFE at boring, useless church services to keep the peace with the family. The desire for some of us to cuddled up with people with similar disbeliefs is totally in place... Simple things like having a lively, open-minded, intelligent chat with another human being, or just hanging out...and maybe indulging in some of the blessings of being human that religion vilifies seem priceless. We're social animals after all. AND SINCE MARRIAGES ARE MOSTLY ALONG RELIGIOUS LINES (be ye not unequally yorked with unbelievers), WHO WILL WE DATE OR MARRY?! AND WHERE WILL WE MEET THEM if we don't have such a group - even if it's, at the very least, virtual?

blackprowler:

I wish I could explain to you how deeply I feel you. I'm certain you understand me and where I'm coming from. Others have taken their good fortune for granted. They don't know what it is to be psychologically persecuted. Sadly you're in the North where it is much worse. Out of the millions in Lagos, I'm yet to find TEN people to start this thing. This country has a big problem

mmsen: You could join the preexisting Nigerian Humanist Association.

joseph1013:

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I agree. It should not be a place to be overly negative and be an avenue of religious bashing. Despite my knowledge level of both sides, I still resist calling the religious unintelligent. In my interactions, I prefer laying down facts and leave those who want to consider them to do so. I rarely bash religion on nairaland. I'm just not interested in the ego-driven arguments. I do my sports and occassional politics jejely on nairaland.

To those sending me PMs (I've seen three already) telling me what I'm losing in Christianity, I understand your concerns and love. I'm not angry at god. Infact I still consciously look for evidences to be a Christian again but all the facts fall flat and can't stand up to honest scrutiny. I really do want to believe again! Who wants to be alienated from loving friends and families? I have led men to Christ and evangelized earnestly. An awkward moment came a few months ago when someone I had led to Christ in the Universirty came up to me and thanked me profusely because according to him, his christianity helped him in his trying time years later after encountering Christ.

But I can't see reasons to believe. I dare any sincere christian to pick up 'Why I believed' by Kenneth Daniels (It's available freely online) and read it with an open mind.

There is nothing to be gained for living an illusion. WE ONLY GOT ONE LIFE!
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Eddlad: Hello,
Quite interesting something.Am a theist though,but would like to hang around.
Is there a book for atheists?I think 1 among you mentioned.Please don't take this the wrong way but what does someone who does not believe in God need in such.To what end?
I hope you can accommodate me.

Eddlad: Hmm....really,cause many of you make mention of the same facts whenever confronted.By the way is it really necessary for all these defences,won't prudence be it that these so called Christians show you what they have seen that's soo puzzling and astonishing?
Won't prudence point that if we are wrong you have nothing to lose...

sunlux: Tanx my man i will like to join dis group.pls lets open one facebook acct for the organisation. am a humanist my name is akin i live in fct my fone is 08061172860 i welcome every

TheBigUrban2: A bb group would be better since bb is almost anonymous. i have 2 bbs

basille: For some time now i have been having the same thought (especially the physical meeting aspect) for fellows with similar views. Yea it gets lonely sometimes (in a religiously crazy country like this where stigmatization is common ), and i would love to engage in intellectual discussions with like minds.
I'm currently schooling in Awka, Anambra State and would like to become part of such organisation (distance problem). A problem for this organisation is that anybody can pose as an atheist and be welcomed.