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Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by coogar: 11:55am On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: you can't be a genius & be religious. don't mix the two together. they cannot reasonably defend their religion cos there's no empirical evidence or statistical facts backing their religion. if you cannot defend a cause then how are you a genius? |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by MrAnony1(m): 11:57am On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2:Lol, I really had to laugh when I read this. Here you are stating a "fact" and implicitly suggesting from it that somehow it is better to be non-religious than to be religious. I am merely stating a similar "fact" that implies that it is better to be a white man than it is to be black but surprisingly you find that hard to swallow. How inconsistent. I know that you are mad that I have exposed your poor reasoning. Here you are complaining and crying racism because it suggests that people's intelligence is based on race while totally ignoring the fact that you are doing something similar by suggesting that people's intelligence is based on their religious beliefs. What a hypocrite. As I said earlier, you haven't shown a valid relationship between atheism and intelligence but you want us to merely assume that it is true and proceed to discuss "why". Propaganda only works on fools my friend. Skeptics will always challenge your unfounded assumptions. It is ironic that you who claims to be a skeptic is suddenly uncomfortable and resorting to threats when others are skeptical of your position. Please feel free to report to Seun or whoever you like. You've kissed his buttocks enough already. Perhaps he'll throw you a bone. 2 Likes |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 11:58am On Jul 25, 2014 |
coogar: A part time genius? |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 12:00pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
rationalmind: You are right.... annoyingly right |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 12:06pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
MrAnony1: Is your house made of straw? Because the amount of strawmen you throw is astonishing. 1) I put a fact from numerous studies (intelligent people are more likely to be atheists). I did not say that being non-religious is better. 2) If you feel that it is not a fact that intelligent people are more likely to be atheists, TAKE IT UP WITH THE NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT SAY SO http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by whatofyou: 12:12pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: If an atheist does all these things and still believes he is 'unstained,' then I agree with Alfaseltzer. Atheists are confused; and satan is w(inning)atching... |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 12:15pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
whatofyou: it is not only unstained, it is umblemished.....mtcheww |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by coogar: 12:17pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: a part-time genius is no genius....he's bi-polar |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 12:19pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
coogar: lmao Why naa? Einstein too get some kind madness... |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by coogar: 12:22pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: yes, his insanity is the type associated with geniuses. you cannot be that intelligent & not display some unusual attitude that normal 5 sensory organs will find difficult to understand. |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by MrAnony1(m): 12:33pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2:You haven't demonstrated that you know what a strawman fallacy is. 1) I put a fact from numerous studies (intelligent people are more likely to be atheists). I did not say that being non-religious is better.I also put a fact from numerous studies (intelligent people are more likely to be white than dark-skinned). I did not say being white is better. Who's fooling who? 2) If you feel that it is not a fact that intelligent people are more likely to be atheists, TAKE IT UP WITH THE NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT SAY SOIf you think that it is not a fact that intelligent people are more likely to be caucasians than negroes then please TAKE IT UP WITH THE NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT SAY SO. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html http://www.scribd.com/doc/140239668/IQ-and-Immigration-Policy-Jason-Richwine . Again, who is fooling who? |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by plaetton: 1:37pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
MrAnony1: This is false and disengenous and misleading. First, what do you mean by advanced? How do you define advanced from a historical context? . When exactly does a historical foundation begin? Does Nigeria, for example have a christian historical foundation? Who are the advanced countries that have Christian historical foundation? Was it Egypt, Summer, Babylon, Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Ancient Bagdad? And by the way, have you selectively forgotten the period of history known as the Dark ages, when christian churchmen ruled the known world? MrAnony1: Lies lies lies. Studies show that Asianl men, on the average, have the highest IQ. MrAnony1: Incorrect. These men were prominent men in a religious society who had to live the pretenses of being seen as religious. You forgot to add, that in their private lives, Herbert MacCauly, Azikiwe and Awolowo were Rosicrucians, students and followers of the Rosicrucian philosophies, philosophies that transcend, reject and even mock the very narrow dogmas of religion. So, we know from whence their greatness came. MrAnony1: That is not correct. We also know that poverty affects IQ. A white person from a society that with less poverty is more likely to have better IQ than one who had more poverty. MrAnony1: That is a contradictory statement. First, religion belief is irrational,... something that I think you or another christian have admitted on this forum. It is based purely on having something which you call faith. If you can believe everything that is written in bible as the true words of the creator of the universe, and then dismiss my comic books as fictional fantasies, then you are irrational, and therefore cannot be deemed intelligent. MrAnony1: A valid correlation between intelligence and atheism has long been established. Studies after studies have affirmed this. Google is your friend. 7 Likes |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 5:12pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
MrAnony1: Wow, you have lied and been dishonest so much that you dont even know when you do it; it is now a part of you!! You claim that you have numerous studies that say that intelligent people are more likely to be caucasians than negores, yet you put up only two links to two articles (compared to my one link that referenced a decade of studies). Your first link references a racist professor and not a study. Your second link references a dissertation and not a study. Not only that, it is talking about IQs of immigrants from other countries (including white European ones). I have reported you to mynd44 about your racist and false strawman. #ignore mode. |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by Mynd44: 5:21pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Bias based on skin color in a religious arguement? Smh Guys, let's play nice please |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 5:23pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Mynd44: Bias based on skin color in a religious arguement? Smh be nice |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: You lost this one Logicboy. Anony is right and he only cited the "racist" IQ study in order to show the illogical nature of your OP. Skin color doesn't affect IQ and religiosity doesn't affect IQ. Religion and stupidity might be bed buddies but that doesn't mean religious people are inherently dumber than atheists. Some atheists around these parts believe that aliens created humans, built pyramids and other random things, so stupidity is not exclusive to religion. Religious people just find comfort and "the meaning of life" in their various mythologies and superstitions, but that doens't make them dumb. Religiosity is their reaction to the "absurdity of life" i.e a universe without discernible meaning or reason for human existence despite man's yearning for meaning. Their life has meaning because "God bla bla bla bla bla bla...............bla". They find "God" better than the apparent reality that they are just one of billions of organisms on this planet that will eventually die and cease to exist. Their religion might require them to believe and do some monumentally ret@rded things, but as you can see, most of them don't do the really dumb stuff. Religion is just their coping mechanism. 3 Likes |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
plaetton: Some spreading nonsense. It's this same type of nonsense that has people thinking that jewish farts smell like roses. |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 8:25pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Martian: I cited studies...no where did I call religious people stuupid or inherently dumber than atheists. Please, follow Anony to create a strawman thread abeg. I stated a fact- intelligent people are more likely to be atheists/irreligious. Same conclusions made |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 8:27pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Martian: Furthermore, no one here said that religiousity affects IQ. You are either dull or just dishonest. |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by Nobody: 8:33pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: You cited studies, Anony cited studies and I can also cite studies that prove that unicorns are, in fact, real. Hell, I read things everyday and the authors "cite studies" to buttress their imbecilic notions. So keep citing. TheBigUrban2: I state a fact- the "most intelligent" people are more likely to abstain from affirming or denying the existence of mythological characters like atheists and religious people do. 1 Like |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 8:35pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Martian: If you do not know what a scientific study is, keep quiet and ask gently. You are embarrassing yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by Nobody: 8:37pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: No, but your post implies that religiosity depends on IQ. |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 8:40pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Martian: No, it just reads in your biased head that way |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: lol, so tell me, unbiased and erudite one, what is the point of your op? |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 8:42pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Martian: If you are still asking this question by now, you didnt read the op properly. So much for intelligence...smh |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by Nobody: 8:43pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: Well, I'm not really intelligent. So tell me the point of your op, Einstein. |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 8:45pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Martian: Olodostein, actually |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by MrAnony1(m): 8:22am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Mynd44: Bias based on skin color in a religious arguement? SmhDude, please read the arguments properly before shaking your head. |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by MrAnony1(m): 8:29am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Martian: TheBigUrban2:......So this is how the conversation died out. The question still remains: Dear Mr BigUrban, What is exactly is your point? ....crickets... |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 10:24am On Jul 27, 2014 |
MrAnony1: lol...the point is clearly stated in the op. You just want to derail with your nonsense questions........ TheBigUrban2: 1) Highly advanced countries have huge/significant number of atheists in their population eg (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland) |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by MrAnony1(m): 10:29am On Jul 27, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2:Lol, so you really don't have a point. You just have a loaded question. Ok I see. Good luck |
Re: Religious People, Please Answer- Why Are Smart People More Likely 2 Be Atheists? by TheBigUrban2: 10:30am On Jul 27, 2014 |
MrAnony1: loaded? Why is it loaded? Do you have a problem with the fact that intelligent people are more likely to be atheists? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html ^^^^ Or are the studies false? |
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