The last couple of months have been devastating for our fellow human beings in the middle east, with Isis killing people in Iraq and syria, families have been put in mourning, and lots of people have lost their lives, and with the recent massacre of over a thousand palestinian women and children a question comes to mind, from a religious perspective, I would like to ask my christian brothers and sisters, where they think the souls of the palestinians would go? Would the palestinians go to hell or heaven, given the fact that they did not believe in Jesus christ while alive, will the dead palestinians go to hell? I would like to hear your opinions,

How can you go to somewhere that does not exist.

And then to suggest that they will go to HELL after all the HELL they have being through is enough evidence that HELL is an invented MYTH used for control.

bolaino: The last couple of months have been devastating for our fellow human beings in the middle east, with Isis killing people in Iraq and syria, families have been put in mourning, and lots of people have lost their lives, and with the recent massacre of over a thousand palestinian women and children a question comes to mind, from a religious perspective, I would like to ask my christian brothers and sisters, where they think the souls of the palestinians would go? Would the palestinians go to hell or heaven, given the fact that they did not believe in Jesus christ while alive, will the dead palestinians go to hell? I would like to hear your opinions,

what about the israelites killing them, where will they go giving the fact that majority of them aren't christians?

I hate the statement telling me Israel is a chosen generation!

frosbel: How can you go to somewhere that does not exist.

And then to suggest that they will go to HELL after all the HELL they have being through is enough evidence that HELL is an invented MYTH used for control.

Then explain the story of lazarus and the rich man
Sometimes the way you talk even confuses the devil. I wonder the Jesus christ you claim to be following. I bet He(Jesus) himself do wonder. Heck every one is wondering!

Another question for the gods!!!

As for you OP. The answer to the question is in Romans 2:12
Listen People sin against the revelation
they have, not by the revelation they do not have.
God will judge people according to the light they
have (1:19-20), not according to the light they do
not possess.
God operates under no false distinction. There is
no advantage to the Jew for merely possession of
the Law when it comes to how God judges sin. He
will judge both Jew and Gentile equally and by a
fair standard. God’s judgment measures lives
based on actuality. In this case,
not that their condemnation and perdition will be
illegal, or not in due course of law; but it will not
proceed upon, or according to the law of Moses,
they never had; and much less for not believing in Christ, of whom they never heard; but their
perdition will be for their sins committed without
the law of Moses, against the law of nature: their
not having the written law of Moses will be no
plea in their favour, or be a reason why they
should not be condemned; their persons will not
be regarded as with or without the law, but their
sins committed by them, to which facts their
consciences will bear witness

alentyno:
Then explain the story of lazarus and the rich man
Sometimes the way you talk even confuses the devil. I wonder the Jesus christ you claim to be following. I bet He(Jesus) himself do wonder. Heck every one is wondering!

It is a Parable.

The real Jesus is not tormenting anyone in any hell.

frosbel:

It is a Parable.

The real Jesus is not tormenting anyone in any hell.

Ok explain the parable

Ceasar1: All Sinners will go to Hell. Case Close

Thank you very much Ceasar...
John14:6 -Jesus said:- I am d way,d truth & d life ;no man cometh unto d father,but by me.

frosbel:

It is a Parable.

The real Jesus is not tormenting anyone in any hell.

So where will unbelievers go after death...

Rich4god: So where will unbelievers go after death...

to HELL , i,e the grave. Both believers and sinners go there.

frosbel:

to HELL , i,e the grave. Both believers and sinners go there.

If both go there, then what is the different between a believer and non-believer... And what is the state of the soul in your own definition of hell...

frosbel: How can you go to somewhere that does not exist.

And then to suggest that they will go to HELL after all the HELL they have being through is enough evidence that HELL is an invented MYTH used for control.

My humble sire, Good to have you here, in other words, you do not believe in the christian idea of HELL.

Tolexander: what about the israelites killing them, where will they go giving the fact that majority of them aren't christians?

I hate the statement telling me Israel is a chosen generation!

The jews hate jesus, They do not believe there was ever any body called jesus, they believe jesus was a creation of the romans.

Ceasar1: All Sinners will go to Hell. Case Close

So according to you, the palestinians are sinners, and what makes them sinners if may ask?

alentyno: As for you OP. The answer to the question is in Romans 2:12
Listen People sin against the revelation
they have, not by the revelation they do not have.
God will judge people according to the light they
have (1:19-20), not according to the light they do
not possess.
God operates under no false distinction. There is
no advantage to the Jew for merely possession of
the Law when it comes to how God judges sin. He
will judge both Jew and Gentile equally and by a
fair standard. God’s judgment measures lives
based on actuality. In this case,
not that their condemnation and perdition will be
illegal, or not in due course of law; but it will not
proceed upon, or according to the law of Moses,
they never had; and much less for not believing in Christ, of whom they never heard; but their
perdition will be for their sins committed without
the law of Moses, against the law of nature: their
not having the written law of Moses will be no
plea in their favour, or be a reason why they
should not be condemned; their persons will not
be regarded as with or without the law, but their
sins committed by them, to which facts their
consciences will bear witness

your explanation makes sense in a way, you aren't condemning them totally, I can relate to an extent with what you've written.

bolaino: The last couple of months have been devastating for our fellow human beings in the middle east, with Isis killing people in Iraq and syria, families have been put in mourning, and lots of people have lost their lives, and with the recent massacre of over a thousand palestinian women and children a question comes to mind, from a religious perspective, I would like to ask my christian brothers and sisters, where they think the souls of the palestinians would go? Would the palestinians go to hell or heaven, given the fact that they did not believe in Jesus christ while alive, will the dead palestinians go to hell? I would like to hear your opinions,

Hell is just for the moment....it's a prison yard for now....at the end of this age,Hell will still give them up.
They might go through a lot,satan doesn't care,there are rules in the world of these spirits...if you're ignorant,you're ignorant.
With the person bombed&the person bombing another....all together are going to the same place if their work is not right before Him.

twosquare: Hell is just for the moment....it's a prison yard for now....at the end of this age,Hell will still give them up.
They might go through a lot,satan doesn't care,there are rules in the world of these spirits...if you're ignorant,you're ignorant.
With the person bombed&the person bombing another....all together are going to the same place if their work is not right before Him.

There are serious problems with this comment :

1. Where did the sinners who died in the old testament go to ?
2. Who is in charge of hell
3. Why is God's beloved MAN in this hell already and suffering while the demons are free to roam about and harass mankind ?
4. Do you admit that there are 2 Hells, i.e one before judgement and one after judgement


Thanks.

bolaino: My humble sire, Good to have you here, in other words, you do not believe in the christian idea of HELL.

I don't.

The KJV English bible has translated the grave into HELL all over the bible. This is a serious error and very misleading. Newer bible versions use the correct words such as Sheol or hades or Gehenna|( lake of fire ).

HELL generally means the grave.

frosbel:

There are serious problems with this comment :

1. Where did the sinners who died in the old testament go to ?
2. Who is in charge of hell
3. Why is God's beloved MAN in this hell already and suffering while the demons are free to roam about and harass mankind ?
4. Do you admit that there are 2 Hells, i.e one before judgement and one after judgement


Thanks.

Recently i told in one thread that if you said this in BC, i will agree with you.
1. First you must know that Hell are in levels....there is one that is a prison yard,there is one above it in that region that is safe....Jesus call it the Bosom of Abraham.Satan have no right over such men in the latter because they obeyed God while still in earthen vessel. But the sinners go into torment(prison) as seen in the parable.

2. That which i answered in (1), satan is in charged of it.i mean the lower regions.Hell doesn't pain evil spirits,it's like a natural home.

3. Demons roam until the appointed time when judgement shall come....God will raise an army from men that will thrown satan down that old serpent.

4. People don't understand this concept Hell is different from Lake of Fire....LAKE is what these spirits are afraid of. Even Hell will be cast into the Lake as seen in Revelation. HELL is what some men are passing through right now...LAKE is yet to come....Satan will be tormented there. Every man have been blessed above hell but people there are been held down there by ignorance.
Thanks

frosbel:

I don't.

The KJV English bible has translated the grave into HELL all over the bible. This is a serious error and very misleading. Newer bible versions use the correct words such as Sheol or hades or Gehenna|( lake of fire ).

HELL generally means the grave.

I agree with you on this. But this brings up another question, where does the soul Go after death, The body goes to the grave but where does the soul/spirit go?

twosquare: Hell is just for the moment....it's a prison yard for now....at the end of this age,Hell will still give them up.
They might go through a lot,satan doesn't care,there are rules in the world of these spirits...if you're ignorant,you're ignorant.
With the person bombed&the person bombing another....all together are going to the same place if their work is not right before Him.

hmmm interesting.

twosquare: Recently i told in one thread that if you said this in BC, i will agree with you.
1. First you must know that Hell are in levels....there is one that is a prison yard,there is one above it in that region that is safe....Jesus call it the Bosom of Abraham.Satan have no right over such men in the latter because they obeyed God while still in earthen vessel. But the sinners go into torment(prison) as seen in the parable.

The Bible says in the mouth of 2 or 3 people a matter is established. The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man is a Parable but for the benefit of doubt can you show me from the OT where this Abraham's bosom was mentioned as a place to go to after death.

2. That which i answered in (1), satan is in charged of it.i mean the lower regions.Hell doesn't pain evil spirits,it's like a natural home.

But the bible says that SATAN is not in Hell , in fact one day he will be tormented in Hell.

Currently this is where the devil and his devils are :

"The LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it." - Job 1:7

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" - 1 Peter 5:8

There is nowhere in the bible that tells us Satan is in hell or in charge of Hell.

3. Demons roam until the appointed time when judgement shall come....God will raise an army from men that will thrown satan down that old serpent.

Where is the bolded statement in the bible , please quote scripture.

4. People don't understand this concept Hell is different from Lake of Fire....LAKE is what these spirits are afraid of. Even Hell will be cast into the Lake as seen in Revelation. HELL is what some men are passing through right now...LAKE is yet to come....Satan will be tormented there. Every man have been blessed above hell but people there are been held down there by ignorance.

Which Hell is different from the Lake of Fire :

1. Hades
2. Sheol
3. Gehenna
4. Tartarus


Also, the rest of your comment is unintelligible , please rephrase.

Thanks.

bolaino: I agree with you on this. But this brings up another question, where does the soul Go after death, The body goes to the grave but where does the soul/spirit go?

Man is a SOUL , read Gen 2:7

When we die we return to dust ( God calls us dust ) and the breath of life ( spirit ) returns to God. At this point MAN ceases to be a SOUL.

Tolexander: what about the israelites killing them, where will they go giving the fact that majority of them aren't christians?

I hate the statement telling me Israel is a chosen generation!

Israelites are not the ISIS,the ISIS are islamic fanatics in Iraq and Syria.

Tolexander: what about the israelites killing them, where will they go giving the fact that majority of them aren't christians?

I hate the statement telling me Israel is a chosen generation!

Israelites are not the ISIS,the ISIS are islamic fanatics in Iraq and Syria.Israel are Bombing gaza cos gaza killed 3 youth from israel.

frosbel:

The Bible says in the mouth of 2 or 3 people a matter is established. The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man is a Parable but for the benefit of doubt can you show me from the OT where this Abraham's bosom was mentioned as a place to go to after death.



But the bible says that SATAN is not in Hell , in fact one day he will be tormented in Hell.

Currently this is where the devil and his devils are :

"The LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it." - Job 1:7

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" - 1 Peter 5:8

There is nowhere in the bible that tells us Satan is in hell or in charge of Hell.




Where is the bolded statement in the bible , please quote scripture.



Which Hell is different from the Lake of Fire :

1. Hades
2. Sheol
3. Gehenna
4. Tartarus


Also, the rest of your comment is unintelligible , please rephrase.

Thanks.

i locked it for a reason......Have just explained to you the dimensions in Hell unless you don't believe in it,as per Revelation.....LAKE of Fire is superior to Hell.

And you talking of satan not in charge, you don't have to be physically present before you're in charge of something. Even in the natural realm of ours, we can see this.spiritual powers&authority are different.

Meditate on Rev 12. and cross check with Isaiah 14:12-17 Then,meditate on Psalm 110:2. Am using java phone to post.

This God made many worlds....LAKE is different from Hell.lake is yet to come.And it is in levels.That world have chambers.,it is where you can go now and come back. Just like you can travel to Heaven&come back.

frosbel:

Man is a SOUL , read Gen 2:7

When we die we return to dust ( God calls us dust ) and the breath of life ( spirit ) returns to God. At this point MAN ceases to be a SOUL.

Explain this quote. "WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN TO GAIN THE WORLD AND LOOSE HIS SOUL"

bolaino: I agree with you on this. But this brings up another question, where does the soul Go after death, The body goes to the grave but where does the soul/spirit go?

Whether you agree with him or not doesn't change anything. Our belief or unbelief of what is in the scriptures doesn't change it. When you leave this world you ll see that you deceived yourself.

Jesus described it as everlasting fire in Mathew 18:8
Mathew 25:41.

Matthew 3:12 desribes it as unquenchable fire.

Mark 3:29 jesus called it eternal damnation.

Matthew 18:9 says hell fire.
Mark 9:47 says hell fire.
Mark 9:48 says its a fire that cannot be qenched.
Again the story of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:22-31 is NEVER a parable. The scripture NEVER said its a parable.
I ll rather belief the words of Jesus than believe a worthless teachings full of lies by frosbel or any other person here.

@bolaino, you will do well to take heed and not listen to brain washed fanatics who follow American Churches rather than Jesus. These people have the wicked spirit of the Pharisees , ignore their threats, rantings and ramblings and do your research yourself, God gave you a brain to use it like the Berean Christians.

A good starting place is :

http://bwid.net/studies/mythhell.htm

twosquare: i locked it for a reason......Have just explained to you the dimensions in Hell unless you don't believe in it,as per Revelation.....LAKE of Fire is superior to Hell.

And you talking of satan not in charge, you don't have to be physically present before you're in charge of something. Even in the natural realm of ours, we can see this.spiritual powers&authority are different.

Meditate on Rev 12. and cross check with Isaiah 14:12-17 Then,meditate on Psalm 110:2. Am using java phone to post.

This God made many worlds....LAKE is different from Hell.lake is yet to come.And it is in levels.That world have chambers.,it is where you can go now and come back. Just like you can travel to Heaven&come back.

Brother, you sound confused and are not making any sense, who told you Hell was 3 dimensional ?? Show me the scripture that supports this fable.

The other questions you decided to dodge them. smh.