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Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 6:02pm On Aug 14, 2014
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Posted on January 8, 2014 by Prince Charles Oforkaja

I’m fortunate to have come across a report that shows that the first Bantus(who are now in there many many millions in Central and Southern Africa) originated from Eastern Nigeria, the location of Igboland. This excites but does not surprise me as I wrote in my book some years ago about a group of Igbos that long long ago left Igboland on an Equianoist migration to Southern Africa.

These Igbos promoted civilization by spreading the Igbo concepts of Equianoism and Chi as they spread through Southern Africa, and their influence can be seen in the Tsonga and Lemba ethnic groups. I also revealed that after the journey of these Igbos, their remnants (those who did not fuse into the different cultures they met) settled at a place called Ibo Island today, where the people speak a ‘mysterious language’ called Ibo.

All this information was gotten through painstaking research, and I even had to travel internationally. So since other researchers have traced the Bantus to Eastern Nigeria, and because of the penchant of the Igbos to travel widely, I think that the Igbos I wrote about are the proto-Bantus that the researchers say came from Eastern Nigeria.

Accordinjg to Prinston.edu, “The Bantu languages originated in the region of eastern Nigeria or Cameroon. About 2000 years ago the Bantu people spread southwards and eastwards, introducing agriculture and iron working and colonizing much of the continent in the Bantu expansion.

The technical term Bantu, simply meaning “people”, was first used by Wilhelm Heinrich Immanuel Bleek (1827–1875) as this is reflected in many of the languages of this group. A common characteristic of Bantu languages is that they use words such as muntu or mutu for “person”, and the plural prefix for human nouns starting with mu- (class 1) in most languages is ba- (class 2), thus giving bantu for “people”. Bleek, and later Carl Meinhof, pursued extensive studies comparing the grammatical structures of Bantu languages.”

Today the Bantus have mixed with the local populations they found and have promoted civilization. Today the Bantu population is 60 million, in 535 languages.

According to a comment on Wisegeek.org, “The proto-Bantu people originated in what is now south east Nigeria/northern Cameroon [This reminds me of the ancient Kingdom of Biafra that occupied roughly the same space thousands of years ago] and slowly began migrating into central/southern/east Africa around 4000 years ago. The Bantu are of West African descent and typically belong to E2 haplogroups, also common among West African populations.”

Another section posits, “Many of the great kingdoms of South Africa were ruled by Bantus, who tended to be highly resourceful and adaptable. Their culture subsumed those of other native Africans, although traces of earlier African peoples can be seen in some societies today. These kingdoms traded with people from other regions of the world, including the Europeans, and as Europeans started to colonize Africa, they pressured the existing Bantus to move. People who speak the languages in this family can be found in Rwanda, Angola, Burundi, Zimbabwe, and South Africa, among other nations in the southern part of Africa.”

According to @Anon 342530 in the Wisegeek post, “The word ‘ntu’ means person, and the prefix ‘Ba’ is used by class 2 bantu to denote the plural. ‘Bantu’ therefore means ‘people’. The Bantu have migrated and multiplied all over Africa. The presence of the word ‘ntu’ or ‘ndu’ in reference to a person is given as clue, in a modern language, that they are Bantu.” In Igbo the word ‘ndu’ means life and ‘ndi’ means people, as in ‘ndi mmadu’ or ‘otutu ndi’.

PS: Another school of thought says that the proto-Bantus originated from the Sudan-Egypt area. That fits in because as we have been saying in this blog, the Igbos have a Judeo-Nubian origin. To understand more of the Igbo influence in the development of modern civilization, contact us for my book on the matter.

What’s your reaction to this story? What do you think of the Igbo tradition of traveling widely? How are the Igbos and African Americans who are mostly Igbo promoting civilization today?
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by squaddy(m): 6:27pm On Aug 14, 2014
Oblong/cone-heads please steer clear from this area.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 7:19pm On Aug 14, 2014
Eastern Nigeria in this context is the part of the old Eastern Region closest to Cameroun. Home of the Ibibio/Efik/Annang, the Ekoid groups and other groups in that area who still speak Bantu-related languages.

The Igbo are not proto-Bantu.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 7:21pm On Aug 14, 2014
What does judeo-Nubian mean anyway?
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 12:06pm On Aug 15, 2014
Radoillo: What does Judeo-Nubian mean anyway?
Buy the Equianoism book to get the answer, Bro. You can get it by contacting Igbodefender.com.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:10pm On Aug 15, 2014
Radoillo: What does judeo-Nubian mean anyway?

LOL they just want some middle-eastern/north African origin.

in the end, it always comes down to that. tongue

They dont even mind mixing 2 unrelated groups to get their point across.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 2:23pm On Aug 15, 2014
PAGAN9JA:

LOL they just want some middle-eastern/north African origin.

in the end, it always comes down to that. tongue

They dont even mind mixing 2 unrelated groups to get their point across.

Igbos are not just some Middle Eastern people, but specifically the Jewish people. Our physiology has changed due to centuries of living in the jungles of Southeastern Nigeria, just like the Jews of Europe changed to look more like Europeans.

No one can deny our lineage as the chosen people of God, and our inheritance to the Land of Israel, Eretz Yisrael.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 2:25pm On Aug 15, 2014
Tho i believe Igbo are Bantu or are close to them whatever that means...the dude is just an Igbo supremacist,lmfao the same people who couldn't create a kingdom in their own enclave want us to believe that they spread civilization in central,southern and eastern Africa .the kingdom of congo , the great Zimbabwe etc were powered by Igbo

The article is laughable, grin grin it's even difficult to get angry at such level of ignorance

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by PAGAN9JA(m): 3:41pm On Aug 15, 2014
onitshaigbo:

Igbos are not just some Middle Eastern people, but specifically the Jewish people. Our physiology has changed due to centuries of living in the jungles of Southeastern Nigeria, just like the Jews of Europe changed to look more like Europeans.

No one can deny our lineage as the chosen people of God, and our inheritance to the Land of Israel, Eretz Yisrael.

shut up. you have no similarity in religion , in looks, in genetics or in custom to the jews.

why did this jewish claim start only during biafra war? Nonsense!

jews of europe still practiced judaism. how come Igbos practiced/practice Paganism?

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 7:19pm On Aug 15, 2014
PAGAN9JA:

shut up. you have no similarity in religion , in looks, in genetics or in custom to the jews.

why did this jewish claim start only during biafra war? Nonsense!

jews of europe still practiced judaism. how come Igbos practiced/practice Paganism?

We are Jews. End of story.

You're just bitter that we don't identify as Nigerian or Africans. Well, we can't pretend to be someone we're not. We are not an African people; we're the chosen people of God exiled from our homeland of Israel.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Omexonomy: 8:19pm On Aug 15, 2014
onitshaigbo:

Igbos are not just some Middle Eastern people, but specifically the Jewish people. Our physiology has changed due to centuries of living in the jungles of Southeastern Nigeria, just like the Jews of Europe changed to look more like Europeans.

No one can deny our lineage as the chosen people of God, and our inheritance to the Land of Israel, Eretz Yisrael.
that thing u sniff b4 typing is doing u harm.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:24pm On Aug 15, 2014
onitshaigbo:

We are Jews. End of story.

You're just bitter that we don't identify as Nigerian or Africans. Well, we can't pretend to be someone we're not. We are not an African people; we're the chosen people of God exiled from our homeland of Israel.

speak for yourself f00L. leave here if you dont think you belong here. go back to your yisrael.

nonsense people.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by osystein(m): 10:03pm On Aug 15, 2014
onitshaigbo:

We are Jews. End of story.

You're just bitter that we don't identify as Nigerian or Africans. Well, we can't pretend to be someone we're not. We are not an African people; we're the chosen people of God exiled from our homeland of Israel.

I doubt you're igbo, just a troll to make US look bad.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 8:56am On Aug 16, 2014
@ Igbohaters
Adress the message if you have a credible argument. Insult is too cheap and prooves nothing.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 6:53pm On Aug 16, 2014
osystein:

I doubt you're igbo, just a troll to make US look bad.

It's you who is trying to sell your inheritance (chosen status and rights to the land of Israel), denying your true identity as a Jew (if you're an Igbo). We are not Africans.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 12:31am On Aug 17, 2014
lol, funny thread

Precolonial igbo - top and bottom
Pre (Modern israel jews) - 2 middle pics

oh please.... dont make me laugh.....

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by macof(m): 8:27pm On Aug 17, 2014
onitshaigbo:

It's you who is trying to sell your inheritance (chosen status and rights to the land of Israel), denying your true identity as a Jew (if you're an Igbo). We are not Africans.

am sure Israel would be delighted to have you in their land claiming to own the place

Dey gonna blow u up worse than they do the Palestinians grin grin

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 9:13pm On Aug 17, 2014
macof:

am sure Israel would be delighted to have you in their land claiming to own the place

Dey gonna blow u up worse than they do the Palestinians grin grin

We Igbos (Biafran Jews) must make the case to our brethren in Israel that we are also Jews. This is why we have to become more developed and prosperous here in Biafra so that we can become recognisable to them as Jews. But first we must take control of our own destinies and not let these gentile peoples (Africans) ruin things for us. We must work for the complete breakup of Nigeria and the establishment of Biafra as an Igbo and Jewish state.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 9:26pm On Aug 17, 2014
onitshaigbo:

We Igbos (Biafran Jews) must make the case to our brethren in Israel that we are also Jews. This is why we have to become more developed and prosperous here in Biafra so that we can become recognisable to them as Jews. But first we must take control of our own destinies and not let these gentile peoples (Africans) ruin things for us. We must work for the complete breakup of Nigeria and the establishment of Biafra as an Igbo and Jewish state.


Whoa! Back up, son. Which Igboland are u going to turn into a Jewish state? The Igboland that I also have a stake in?

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 9:42pm On Aug 17, 2014
Radoillo:


Whoa! Back up, son. Which Igboland are u going to turn into a Jewish state? The Igboland that I also have a stake in?

Igbos are Jews. If you don't want your inheritance, you can move out of Igboland and live amongst the non-Jews. It's a shame, but you can do it.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by macof(m): 10:06pm On Aug 17, 2014
onitshaigbo:

We Igbos (Biafran Jews) must make the case to our brethren in Israel that we are also Jews. This is why we have to become more developed and prosperous here in Biafra so that we can become recognisable to them as Jews. But first we must take control of our own destinies and not let these gentile peoples (Africans) ruin things for us. We must work for the complete breakup of Nigeria and the establishment of Biafra as an Igbo and Jewish state.

grin grin

Are you sure the Jews aren't gonna blow you up for impersonation
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 1:36am On Aug 18, 2014
macof:

grin grin

Are you sure the Jews aren't gonna blow you up for impersonation

They won't dare to bomb us while we're in exile in Nigeria.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 9:04am On Aug 18, 2014
onitshaigbo:

Igbos are Jews. If you don't want your inheritance, you can move out of Igboland and live amongst the non-Jews. It's a shame, but you can do it.

What is a shame is you licking the bum of a people who'd treat you like poo if u lived among them. Go ask the Ethiopian Jews living in Israel.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:24am On Aug 18, 2014
onitshaigbo:

We Igbos (Biafran Jews) must make the case to our brethren in Israel that we are also Jews. This is why we have to become more developed and prosperous here in Biafra so that we can become recognisable to them as Jews. But first we must take control of our own destinies and not let these gentile peoples (Africans) ruin things for us. We must work for the complete breakup of Nigeria and the establishment of Biafra as an Igbo and Jewish state.

madness. I chose not to reply to this.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 3:11am On Aug 19, 2014
Radoillo:

What is a shame is you licking the bum of a people who'd treat you like poo if u lived among them. Go ask the Ethiopian Jews living in Israel.

Ignoramus! Ethiopian Jews were saved from persecution and famine by Israel, who transported them free of charge from the abject misery of the Horn of Africa to a first-world modern country Israel, giving them shelter, education, healthcare, and economic opportunities without asking for anything in return. There was never a more compassionate response by a first-world people to a third-world people than the people of Israel to their Jewish brethren in Ethiopia.

We Igbos too will become blessed beyond our wildest dreams when we proudly display our Jewish identity and live as Jews according to the laws of the Bible.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 8:49am On Aug 19, 2014
onitshaigbo:

Ignoramus! Ethiopian Jews were saved from persecution and famine by Israel, who transported them free of charge from the abject misery of the Horn of Africa to a first-world modern country Israel, giving them shelter, education, healthcare, and economic opportunities without asking for anything in return. There was never a more compassionate response by a first-world people to a third-world people than the people of Israel to their Jewish brethren in Ethiopia.

We Igbos too will become blessed beyond our wildest dreams when we proudly display our Jewish identity and live as Jews according to the laws of the Bible.

Don't be a drooling nitwit. Read up.

http://www.irinnews.org/report/94819/israel-the-tribulations-of-being-an-ethiopian-jew

They sterilise(d) Ethiopian Jewish women because they want an all-white Jewish state.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/


Keep licking their bums.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 4:36am On Aug 20, 2014
Radoillo:

Don't be a drooling nitwit. Read up.

http://www.irinnews.org/report/94819/israel-the-tribulations-of-being-an-ethiopian-jew

They sterilise(d) Ethiopian Jewish women because they want an all-white Jewish state.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/


Keep licking their bums.

It's always difficult to accept someone who looks so different than you. Our bond as Jews between Igbos and Israelis is stronger than the human nature of racial prejudice.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:56am On Aug 20, 2014
onitshaigbo:

It's always difficult to accept someone who looks so different than you. Our bond as Jews between Igbos and Israelis is stronger than the human nature of racial prejudice.

Dont say say "our" bond. That is your own personal bond. A bond of slavery that was developed recently.

The Pagan Igbos of the past never had such bonds.

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by Nobody: 8:06am On Aug 20, 2014
He's a troll....

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Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 1:23pm On Aug 20, 2014
PAGAN9JA:

Dont say say "our" bond. That is your own personal bond. A bond of slavery that was developed recently.

The Pagan Igbos of the past never had such bonds.

Bond of slavery? What are you talking about? Our bond with the rest of Jewish people is a bond of lineage and a bond validated by God. Through centuries of isolation in the West African jungle, we have lost much of our practice of Judaism, but we are Jews nonetheless.

It is vain to convince us that we are just like any other tribe in Africa. We are an ancient people, a people of the book, and although we have neglected or abandoned much of the practices commanded to us from God, we are still tied to the rest of the Jewish people and to the commandments to the Jewish people. This connection is the very essence of our being, and only recently have we began to rediscover it.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 1:26pm On Aug 20, 2014
Radoillo: He's a troll....

If you're really Igbo. You may be interested in knowing about the origins of your people, and that you are a part of a people who is promised a great inheritance from God, both in this world and in the hereafter. Prosperity and happiness awaits if you seek God and seek to fulfill His commandments for our people, the Jewish people.
Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by onitshaigbo(m): 1:27pm On Aug 20, 2014
Igbos have nothing to do with Bantus. We are of Middle-Eastern extraction.

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