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Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by tbaba1234: 4:21am On Aug 25, 2014
Why perfectly good husbands are being abandoned
by Randi Gunther


Not so many years ago, married men had the freedom to live by one set of rules away from home, and a different set at the hearth. Because they held the power to distribute resources however they wished, they could decide what and when to share them. As women have become legitimate wage earners with more powerful voices, they have challenged their chosen partners to participate in a whole new kind of connection that does not accept automatic hierarchy.

In the last few decades women have slowly driven their point home. The millennial men, who are their current counterparts, are freer thinkers and they have responded in kind in their relationships as well. These men like their women strong and feisty, and have willingly accepted the responsibility to connect in a more vulnerable way. They get it that it’s sexy to help make a meal or take the kids away on a Sunday morning so their wives can sleep in. They are the androgynous guys that their women have asked them to become.

You would think that the women in these new relationships would be ecstatic. They’ve got a guy who wants to work out together, share parenting, support their parallel dreams, and make their family collective central to both of their lives. They’ve established an equal relationship of coordinated teamwork, and the guys don’t seem to miss their old need to posture for power over intimate connections.

Well, guess again. Fifty percent of marriages are still ending in divorce, and women continue to be the gender that initiates those endings. In the past, their reasons for leaving most often had to do with infidelity, neglect, or abuse. Now they’re dumping men who are faithful, attentive, and respectful, the very men they said they have always wanted. Why would women who have accomplished the female dream suddenly not be satisfied with it? Why are they leaving these ideal guys, and for what reasons?

I am currently dealing with several of these great husbands. They are, across the board, respectful, quality, caring, devoted, cherishing, authentic, and supportive guys whose wives have left them for a different kind of man. These once-beloved men make a living, love their kids, help with chores, support aging parents, and support their mate’s desires and interests. They believe they’ve done everything right. They are devastated, confused, disoriented, and heartsick. In a tragic way, they startlingly resemble the disheartened women of the past who were left behind by men who “just wanted something new.”

You may think that these women are ruthless and inconsiderate. Those I know are far from that. More often, they still love their husbands as much as they ever did, but in a different way. They tell me how wonderful their men are and how much they respect them. They just don’t want to be married to them anymore.

Perhaps it would be even more honest to say that they don’t want to be yoked to anyone any more. At least in the traditional ways they once embraced as ideal. They feel compassion for their prior mates, but liberated in their new-found right to create a different way of feeling in relationships. In short, they want to live their lives with the privileges men once had.

I think I understand what is going on.

In the last twenty years, as women have found their voices and value, they have been asking more equality in their relationships. They were ready to take leadership and to disconnect from dependency. In exchange, they wanted their men to adopt nurturing and vulnerable characteristics. At first, there was an expected backlash. “Men are from Mars” and other media presentations became the cry for holding on to the differences between men and women and to keep them from blending.

Nevertheless, it became more and more apparent that quality people of both genders would be happier and more fulfilled if they could combine power and nurturing. Men would develop their feminine side and women their masculine. No longer would it be that the bad boys were sexy and the good women were virtuous. Now quality men needed to add chivalry to their power, and women to claim their ability for independent thinking and leadership. They could imagine a relationship where both were equally blended and free to be the best they could be. “She” and “he” became the new idealized “we.”

As the trend picked up energy, more of the die-hard “men’s men” started to see that the androgynous males were stealing the great girls from under their hard-core posturing, and began to wonder if their “take-no-prisoners” attitude might benefit from a little revising. Women saw their newly developed mates as their best friends, so wonderfully malleable they could take them anywhere and know they would fit in. Men no longer had to “understand and handle” their women, nor did women have to orchestrate “connection.”

Then things started to go awry. Perhaps these androgynous couples over-valued adopting the same behaviors in their relationship. Maybe the men got too nice and the women a little too challenging. Oddly, the androgynous men seemed to like their new-found emotional availability, while the women began to feel more unfulfilled. Her “perfect” partner, in the process of reclaiming his full emotional expressiveness, somehow ended up paying an unfair price; he was no longer able to command the hierarchical respect from her that was once his inalienable right.

How can a man be a caretaker and a warrior at the same time? How can he serve his woman’s need for a partner who is vulnerable, open, and intimate, while donning armor to fight the dangers that threaten his family and place in the world? How can he stand up and be a man amongst men, loyal to the hunting band that covers his back, while taking the night feeding, while not appearing less than a man? Did he blend his male energy with his female side, or did he learn to be more like a female at the price of his innate masculinity?

The women I have treated who have left their husbands for more “masculine” men believed that their new relationships would be able to both excite and nurture them. Sadly, that has not always happened. The veritable saint with balls is as elusive as ever.

When things haven’t worked out as they thought they would, several of the women I am now working with are re-thinking their decisions, wondering if they left too soon, or for the wrong reasons. They want to reconcile with the men they have left behind. Their husbands are torn between the understandable desire to reject them and still wanting them back. Ironically, because these have nurtured the feminine side of their natures, they are also able to forgive in a way few men have been able to do in the past.

But because they have no interest in returning to the “bad boy” mentality their competitors brandished, they are faced with a challenge most men have never had to confront. How do they hold on to their vulnerability and capacity to nurture, and blend it with the strength and power required of a self-respecting leader of men?

None of my reuniting couples ever want to lose each other again. They’ve left the old ways behind and know that going back to what was will not work anymore. They intensely want to create a new kind of connection that blends the beauty of traditional roles with the freedom to move between them, and to blend the best of the past with an as-yet-unwritten future.

It must be a parallel path. Both men and women must separately find their own balance between their need for independence and their desire for ongoing commitment. As integrated individuals in their own right, they would then have the capacity to create a relationship that is more than the exchange or sum of the parts. Committed partners who are willing to fight for that innovative solution will find the way.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randi-gunther/marriage-advice_b_5666990.html

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by tbaba1234: 4:27am On Aug 25, 2014
'Perhaps these androgynous couples over-valued adopting the same behaviors in their relationship. Maybe the men got too nice and the women a little too challenging. Oddly, the androgynous men seemed to like their new-found emotional availability, while the women began to feel more unfulfilled. Her “perfect” partner, in the process of reclaiming his full emotional expressiveness, somehow ended up paying an unfair price; he was no longer able to command the hierarchical respect from her that was once his inalienable right.'

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by tbaba1234: 4:36am On Aug 25, 2014
Brilliant piece. Is imbalance not created when absolute equality is demanded?

Does trying to change the traditional male leadership of the home lead to chaos?

This article suggests that this has resulted in divorce instigated by the same women who wanted absolute equality.
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 5:11am On Aug 25, 2014
So,does this mean that men should stop being good husbands?

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 5:46am On Aug 25, 2014
This simply means work out your own "salvation" with fear and trembling. No two marriages are alike and marriage is not a one size fits all. Couple need to know what works for them and not what Nairalanders want for them!

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Fkforyou(m): 6:29am On Aug 25, 2014
Hmmm......insightful.

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by thorpido(m): 6:51am On Aug 25, 2014
Couples should figure out what works for them.However,two captains cannot control a ship.It will end in a disaster most times if the woman wants the same control as the husband.
Absolute feminism is a sure recipe for divorce.

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by cococandy(f): 7:20am On Aug 25, 2014
They are, across the board, respectful, quality, caring, devoted, cherishing, authentic, and supportive guys whose wives have left them for a different kind of man. These once-beloved men make a living, love their kids, help with chores, support aging parents, and support their mate’s desires and interests. They believe they’ve done everything right. They are devastated, confused, disoriented, and heartsick. In a tragic way, they startlingly resemble the disheartened women of the past who were left behind by men who “just wanted something new.”
Needless to say,the women who leave such men are very few and far between.
I can authoritatively state based on my environment that many women would kill to have such men. Not with the crap I see some married women putting up with just to stay married and avoid the D title.
Hmmmm. This here is an exaggeration. Or maybe the result of the author's personal experience.
Those women probably didn't know what they wanted to start with.

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by SAMBARRY: 7:25am On Aug 25, 2014
End of discussion!
cococandy:
Needless to say,the women who leave such men are very few and far between.
I can authoritatively state based on my environment that many women would kill to have such men. Not with the crap I see some married women putting up with just to stay married and avoid the D title.
Hmmmm. This here is an exaggeration. Or maybe the result of the author's personal experience.
Those women probably didn't know what they wanted to start with.

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by cococandy(f): 7:34am On Aug 25, 2014
Gone thru it many times and I'm wondering what the author's take about the effects of these so called 'androgynous' men on kids are.
Do they make better fathers than the warrior fathers of the past?
Are the kids loving the emotional availability more?

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 7:45am On Aug 25, 2014
cococandy:
Needless to say,the women who leave such men are very few and far between.
I can authoritatively state based on my environment that many women would kill to have such men. Not with the crap I see some married women putting up with just to stay married and avoid the D title.
Hmmmm. This here is an exaggeration. Or maybe the result of the author's personal experience.
Those women probably didn't know what they wanted to start with.


hehehehehehe you settled the case when you said based on my environment, Nigeria if i'm correct. cheesy

It is in Nigeria you find tonnes of women looking for supportive men here and there to crown their head, outside Naija is different. We have more independent comfortable youthful woman. The writer is not exaggerating.
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by cococandy(f): 8:45am On Aug 25, 2014
Which is why such topics should indicate the audience they are meant for.

onirugbon1:


hehehehehehe you settled the case when you said based on my environment, Nigeria if i'm correct. cheesy

It is in Nigeria you find tonnes of women looking for supportive men here and there to crown their head, outside Naija is different. We have more independent comfortable youthful woman. The writer is not exaggerating.

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by pickabeau1: 8:45am On Aug 25, 2014
Huffington Post is an American based blog..

cococandy: Which is why such topics should indicate the audience they are meant for.

Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 8:54am On Aug 25, 2014
cococandy: Which is why such topics should indicate the audience they are meant for.


True
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 8:55am On Aug 25, 2014
The unfortunate truth is that most women simply have no clue what they want.
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 9:48am On Aug 25, 2014
cococandy:
Needless to say,the women who leave such men are very few and far between.
I can authoritatively state based on my environment that many women would kill to have such men. Not with the crap I see some married women putting up with just to stay married and avoid the D title.
Hmmmm. This here is an exaggeration. Or maybe the result of the author's personal experience.
Those women probably didn't know what they wanted to start with.
you are wrong while the writer is right! Even in dating, once the guy starts paying too mucch attention to her feminine desires and emotions, he becomes a wuss as she assumes his masculinity while he becomes the emotional one. A man should always stand his ground with a huge sense of pride so long he's right. If a lady can take her guy for granted in a dating relationship just cos he's too caring, how much more when she's married? Don't you think she can still have that trait in marriage, waiting to abound once the hubby succumbs to emotions? Stop defending feminism

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by cococandy(f): 9:55am On Aug 25, 2014
There's no case of right or wrong on this topic.

From your post you think marriage is about standing ground,showing pride,forming hard man so as not to be seen as a wuss?
Spelling out who's right or wrong all the time and more importantly about image?

Hmm is all I can say.


Stop defending feminism?
When the sun turns green.
TribalEAST: you are wrong while the writer is right! Even in dating, once the guy starts paying too mucch attention to her feminine desires and emotions, he becomes a wuss as she assumes his masculinity while he becomes the emotional one. A man should always stand his ground with a huge sense of pride so long he's right. If a lady can take her guy for granted in a dating relationship just cos he's too caring, how much more when she's married? Don't you think she can still have that trait in marriage, waiting to abound once the hubby succumbs to emotions? Stop defending feminism

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 11:44am On Aug 25, 2014
cococandy: There's no case of right or wrong on this topic.

From your post you think marriage is about standing ground,showing pride,forming hard man so as not to be seen as a wuss?
Spelling out who's right or wrong all the time and more importantly about image?

Hmm is all I can say.


Stop defending feminism?
When the sun turns green.
I said standing on the right ground, not when he's wrong. Do you expect a man to succumb to his wife's foolishness which was thesame mistake adam made, who knew eve was proposing something wrong but in the bid to act romantic or emotional, he succeeded in destroying himself?
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by cococandy(f): 12:31pm On Aug 25, 2014
Hmm. I can't make sense out of this or how it relates to the topic.
Thanks for trying sha smiley
TribalEAST: I said standing on the right ground, not when he's wrong. Do you expect a man to succumb to his wife's foolishness which was thesame mistake adam made, who knew eve was proposing something wrong but in the bid to act romantic or emotional, he succeeded in destroying himself?
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Darteyyyy(m): 1:20pm On Aug 25, 2014
onirugbon1:


hehehehehehe you settled the case when you said based on my environment, Nigeria if i'm correct. cheesy

It is in Nigeria you find tonnes of women looking for supportive men here and there to crown their head, outside Naija is different. We have more independent comfortable youthful woman. The writer is not exaggerating.

Outside of Nigeria where?, make una no dey lie jhor...

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Darteyyyy(m): 1:23pm On Aug 25, 2014
TribalEAST: you are wrong while the writer is right! Even in dating, once the guy starts paying too mucch attention to her feminine desires and emotions, he becomes a wuss as she assumes his masculinity while he becomes the emotional one. A man should always stand his ground with a huge sense of pride so long he's right. If a lady can take her guy for granted in a dating relationship just cos he's too caring, how much more when she's married? Don't you think she can still have that trait in marriage, waiting to abound once the hubby succumbs to emotions? Stop defending feminism

The truth is.... Different strokes for different folks... What worked for me might not work for you.

If you don't pay attention to her... That'll be the reason for her to leave.

Too much attention is not a bad thing from my own point of view.

Is there even anything like too much attention in marriage?

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 1:49pm On Aug 25, 2014
Bogus article written by a bad husband (or intended bad husband) and father who is obviously looking for reasons to justify his deeds/intended deeds.

How many women leave good husbands anywhere in the world? When the good men are not even enough to go round.

Hian!

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 3:00pm On Aug 25, 2014
cococandy: Hmm. I can't make sense out of this or how it relates to the topic.
Thanks for trying sha smiley
when a feminist can't counter your strong point, she writes the above. undecided

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by cococandy(f): 3:05pm On Aug 25, 2014
Ok I agree. You win
TribalEAST: when a feminist can't counter your strong point, she writes the above. undecided
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 3:13pm On Aug 25, 2014
The author generalises because he is "currently dealing with several of these great husbands".

1. How many are several?

2. Who says these husbands are great?

3. Has he talked to their ex-wives?

Useless article.

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 3:18pm On Aug 25, 2014
tbaba1234: 'Perhaps these androgynous couples over-valued adopting the same behaviors in their relationship. Maybe the men got too nice and the women a little too challenging. Oddly, the androgynous men seemed to like their new-found emotional availability, while the women began to feel more unfulfilled. Her “perfect” partner, in the process of reclaiming his full emotional expressiveness, somehow ended up paying an unfair price; he was no longer able to command the hierarchical respect from her that was once his inalienable right.'

This i think is true. Better men should remain masculine being a good husband does not mean acting like a sissy,becoming as feminine as a woman it now feels like she is dealing with a female friend.

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Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by bukatyne(f): 3:27pm On Aug 25, 2014
Nashville: This simply means work out your own "salvation" with fear and trembling. No two marriages are alike and marriage is not a one size fits all. Couple need to know what works for them and not what Nairalanders want for them!

Gbam!

But I must say that most Nigerian women do not like 'soft' men as it were. And it is basically a Nigerian thing. We tend to respect people we know can 'deal' with us than people who respect us. A man will most likely cheat on a docile wife openly than a jaguda he knows will break his head with bottle.

@OP: Human wants are insatiable. The women coming back shows they do not know what they wanted. They can try Nairaland men if there is scarcity of traditional men.
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by bukatyne(f): 3:31pm On Aug 25, 2014
carefreewannabe: The author generalises because he is "currently dealing with several of these great husbands".

1. How many are several?

2. Who says these husbands are great?

3. Has he talked to their ex-wives?

Useless article.

Another thing is that a good man is not necessarily a good husband

There is a difference between doing what I think you like and doing what you like

But in the end, a great wife will still appreciate a great husband

So men, find a great wife
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by tbaba1234: 3:51pm On Aug 25, 2014
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 4:00pm On Aug 25, 2014
bukatyne:

A man will most likely cheat on a docile wife openly than a jaguda he knows will break his head with bottle.


Not sure I agree with this comment o. In fact it may be the other way round. Most men would quickly divorce a jaguda wife and not die of heart attack or broken head! smiley
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by bukatyne(f): 4:04pm On Aug 25, 2014
Nashville:

Not sure I agree with this comment o. In fact it may be the other way round. Most men would quickly divorce a jaguda wife and not die of heart attack or broken head! smiley

They may divorce jaguda wife in the end BUT will maintain their space till they do so

Funny enough, most marriages I know broken do not have jaguda wives or those with jaduga wives just disappeared grin

Once you can tell a person he/she is wicked, then the person is not really wicked
Re: Why Perfectly Good Husbands Are Being Abandoned by Nobody: 4:08pm On Aug 25, 2014

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