Well, i am currently running some analysis which may be core to some decisions i need to make very soon.
PHP is good, no doubt but with my experience working with PHP for well over 12 years and with python for about 7 years now, i can say python is better in many aspect i can't begin to quote.

I know Nairaland started off from SMF software and after a while, probably started claiming a lot of RAM due to the huge traffic.
so seun had to dump PHP and re-write the application code from scratch in python while probably maintaining the old mysql database.

I can guess the RAM and CPU usage must have reduced greatly and from the look of things, Nairaland software is stable and doing well
can anyone from the nairaland team share the frameworks, template engine etc in use?
and maybe some site traffic info and resource consumption too can help us make some decisions in our choice of frameworks/toolkits
what were the problems with the old software that was written in PHP.

thanks.

We use CherryPy as a minimal framework. We've written simple routines for routing, templating, db pooling, etc that suit our needs perfectly.

We like servers with lots of RAM (for the database) and solid state storage (to make maintenance operations like backups & table rebuilds fast).

We switched from SMF because we felt that we understood the needs of our forum and could write our own code to satisfy those needs better.

webdezzi: Well, i am currently running some analysis which may be core to some decisions i need to make very soon.
PHP is good, no doubt but with my experience working with PHP for well over 12 years and with python for about 7 years now, i can say python is better in many aspect i can't begin to quote.

I know Nairaland started off from SMF software and after a while, probably started claiming a lot of RAM due to the huge traffic.
so seun had to dump PHP and re-write the application code from scratch in python while probably maintaining the old mysql database.

I can guess the RAM and CPU usage must have reduced greatly and from the look of things, Nairaland software is stable and doing well
can anyone from the nairaland team share the frameworks, template engine etc in use?
and maybe some site traffic info and resource consumption too can help us make some decisions in our choice of frameworks/toolkits
what were the problems with the old software that was written in PHP.

thanks.

you hav tey-ed in programming.
What edge does python hav over php? Considerg however tht what one language can do another can do likewise .. (turing complete languages).
Bet som php guyz may disagree with you on this.

asalimpo: What edge does python hav over php?

Python was designed by a guy who wanted to create a great general-purpose programming language. PHP evolved from a templating engine.

<?php
$Firstly = "GetMyselfSomePopcorn";
$secondly = "LayOnMyCouch";
$thirdly = "RefreshThreadPerSecondsPerSecond";
$Thinking = "I will learn a lot from this thread";

Echo $Firstly<br/>;
Echo $secondly<br/>;
Echo $thirdly<br/>;

Echo "to hell with my interview tomorrow" $Thinking;

?>

Hope I tried?

Seun:
Python was designed by a guy who wanted to create a great general-purpose programming language. PHP evolved from a templating engine.

in other wrds,php was hacked together while python was thoughtfully sculpted (after guido came out of his meditation under a waterfall).
not being a php coder i cant comment. But you've not answered my exact question. In what specifc ways is python above php. (not an exhaustve list just some points).
python's main accusation is it's speed.

Seun: We use CherryPy as a minimal framework. We've written simple routines for routing, templating, db pooling, etc that suit our needs perfectly.

We like servers with lots of RAM (for the database) and solid state storage (to make maintenance operations like backups & table rebuilds fast).

We switched from SMF because we felt that we understood the needs of our forum and could write our own code to satisfy those needs better.

Thanks for clearing the framework part.
can you give a rough stat of the old RAM consumption versus current, based on say 2000 concurrent requests

*This is interesting* see them masters talking. Make I no lie, i no understand wetin them dey talk. Please someone should translate all the talks above into something wey layman like me fit understand. Is PHP templating engine not smarty? So PHP was developed from smarty? I don lost for here o, and i think say i sabi programming, ori ya mi o (place both hands on the head and trolls away)

dhtml18: *This is interesting* see them masters talking. Make I no lie, i no understand wetin them dey talk. Please someone should translate all the talks above into something wey layman like me fit understand. Is PHP templating engine not smarty? So PHP was developed from smarty? I don lost for here o, and i think say i sabi programming, ori ya mi o (place both hands on the head and trolls away)

You are not alone...

webdezzi:
can anyone from the nairaland team share the frameworks, template engine etc in use?
and maybe some site traffic info and resource consumption too can help us make some decisions in our choice of frameworks/toolkits
what were the problems with the old software that was written in PHP.
thanks.

https://blog.mailchimp.com/ewww-you-use-php/

Extracts from the URL Above

Yes, I’m afraid we have to come clean. We use PHP here at MailChimp. For the non-programmers among you, PHP is a programming language that is extremely ...

...We’ve built a framework for developing applications in PHP specifically designed to allow for fast innovation in the high-load, high-performance environment we live in every day while still keeping the API extremely simple to deal with....
We use this architecture to process well over thirty million emails sent by tens of thousands of users every day, generating tens of millions of bounces, opens, clicks, and unsubscribes that all need to be handled in near-real time. We further process millions of API requests and millions of subscribes and confirmations every day. All told, we handle well over 500 million dynamic page views a month. Our backend systems run millions of jobs every day, calculating statistics, querying geographic data, and scanning everything for bad behavior and abuse.

Seun: We use CherryPy as a minimal framework. We've written simple routines for routing, templating, db pooling, etc that suit our needs perfectly.
We like servers with lots of RAM (for the database) and solid state storage (to make maintenance operations like backups & table rebuilds fast).
We switched from SMF because we felt that we understood the needs of our forum and could write our own code to satisfy those needs better.

Whatever you do, Whatever Language you choose, You still have to optimize for your specific USE Case
Good Luck

curiouslad:

https://blog.mailchimp.com/ewww-you-use-php/

Extracts from the URL Above

Whatever you do, Whatever Language you choose, You still have to optimize for your specific USE Case
Good Luck

I now feel a lot better about using PHP... BTW even Facebook use PHP.