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Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by benodic: 2:42pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
I tried my best to live a life of pure love as a Christian but I didn't succeed until I found ECKANKAR, The Religion of the Light and Sound of God. now giving love to all souls without discrimination is a second nature to me. and moreover I have come to understand the spiritual laws of life. the funny aspect of it all is that even Christians that I have freely given love to will attack me and tell me that giving love to life will not guarantee my entry to heaven unless I accept Jesus as my saviour. It makes me wonder whether Christians really study the bible. the story of who will make heaven is beautifully captured in the story of the Good samaritan where a samaritan was able to tender to an injured man while a levi left him to die because the man is not a Jew. the samaritan does not have to accept Jesus as his saviour to make heaven as his act of love alone is all the guarantee needed. love and love alone is the key to heaven and not your religion. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by TheBigUrban2: 2:46pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
benodic: Gerrout with your cult. Eckankar ni, Sri lanka ko....mtchew 1 Like |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by plaetton: 3:12pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
PastorOluT: I am talking about inner character, not the outer camouflage of carrying a bible and going church. A selfish, greedy or envious person will always and always remain so no matter how many encounters with Christ. The so-called encountes with Christ are simply a convenient camouflage to hide one's innate and always-present Darwinian nature. I know a lot of very good people who happen to be Christian, as well as very bad people who happen to be Christian. If we were to measure and rate religions on the basis of the quality of their moral outputs, then Christianity would surely rank lowest, taking Nigeria as a sample. 2 Likes |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 8:58pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: And your preferred option would be to euthanize the child right? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:27pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
LordReed: No. You leave the child alone. It either survives or dies. Nature is great. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 8:59am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: You mean starve it? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 9:05am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: No!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why is your heart full of evil? You don't starve a child. Just don't do anything you wouldn't do if he is not handicapped. 1 Like |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 9:19am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: What are those things? As far as I know you practically have to do everything for a child disabled or not, so what exactly are you talking about? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 9:48am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: No you don't. Some disabled babies need machines to breath. Your baby doesn't need you to breath. Many toddlers and young children can take care of themselves in many ways. Run, walk, play, sing without your help. Stop helping disabled children. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 9:53am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: Not providing breathing aid is different from euthanasia how? Not feeding a child who cannot feed itself is different from starving it how? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:03am On Aug 31, 2014 |
@AlfaSeltzer Quick question, if you discover you have a genetic transferable disease condition that will cripple you in 6 months what would be your wish? A) To be left alone to fend for yourself. or B) To be cared for. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:18am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: @AlfaSeltzer A. Whether I have a disease or not, leave me alone. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:20am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: One is passive, the other is active. Nature takes care of passive situations. We humans just like to meddle thinking we are better than nature. It makes feel good just like hard drugs make us feel good, but it only ends in our detriment. 1 Like |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:22am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: Very good. I also suppose your don't seek medical aid or any type of aid when you are ill, you let nature run it's course right? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:24am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: [size=14pt]I[/size] do. Me. me. me. Nobody else does it for me. That's the difference. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:26am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: LoL! I suppose you resent your parents for saving you from the childhood diseases that could have crippled you by "actively" giving you immunizations at the hospital yes? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:28am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: No. That is a normal thing to do for any child. If I was blind or crippled, I would have resented them if they gave me extra help they wouldn't have a normal child. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:29am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: OK you intervene in nature's course by yourself no one else is allowed to do it for you, so you are free to take drugs that intervene in nature's course but no one should give another person yes? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:30am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: LoL! How is an active preventive care different from an active intervening care? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:31am On Aug 31, 2014 |
However, on the topic of immunisation, I believe that the human race in general would better of healthwise today if immunisation was never invented. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:32am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: It isn't. We shouldn't have done it. But we are doing it today and being humans we consider it a progress so it will be extremely hard to undo. Pity. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:42am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: The only way that would have happened is if humans didn't have intelligence so is it your opinion that we should have been unintelligent instead? |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:48am On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: This is the typical xtian bible reasoning. Calling black white. Look, if humans were intelligent, they wouldn't meddle with nature. What you call intelligence is actually foolishness which end up hurting us. |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by krayzieklay(m): 11:10am On Aug 31, 2014 |
frank317: Summary: "With or without religion, you will have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things,that takes religion" _Steven Weinberg. 1 Like |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 11:14am On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: And typical antireligious bigotry, calling simple intellectual discussion christian bible reasoning. In your estimation you are a fool for taking medicine or using medical care? Yet you want to denigrate my reasoning? SMH at the gull! |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:19pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
LordReed: I can see this "discussion" degenerating because a religious person cannot accept another person's point of view and always resorts to insults (or threats) when confronted with superior reasoning. 1 Like |
Re: How A Christian's Faith Shook An Atheist by LordReed(m): 4:33pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: Pure hypocritical nonsense! Wasn't it you who accused me of christian bible reasoning first? "Superior reasoning" is to call denying a child breathing support "not euthanasia". "Superior reasoning" is to call not feeding a child who can't feed itself "not starvation". Superior reasoning indeed. 1 Like |
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