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Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by slap1(m): 9:01am On Sep 07, 2014 |
awenaibangbee: could I disagree here. The US market that brings us Lil Wayne and Minaj also brought us Dido Armstrong and Guru. Music can make money and still make meaning. Our market is maturing, but we must realise that all genres will exist 8 the same space.That's the essence of the post: Nigerian music (hip hop) generates money but lacks meaning. 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by victorv12(m): 9:01am On Sep 07, 2014 |
90's hip-hop is the best. 2 Likes |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by overboard(m): 9:04am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Djicemob: OP.In as much as you tried to make sense you didn't really succeed, using the word 'hip-hop' invalidates your points.You said hip-hop and i rushed in thinking you were going to highlight insightful reasons why hip-hop is empty in Nigeria and all i read was the emptiness in pop and afrobeats.If it aint hip-hop its nothing,you mentioned hiphop, why not address hip-hop? 100% "concurrence" 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by flolancracker: 9:06am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Canme4u: Grass to grace by 2faceI so love this track. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by VIPERVENOM(m): 9:08am On Sep 07, 2014 |
most Naija artistes have no creativity dats why they sing nonsense. D annoying part is dat d ones dat sing meaningful music dont sell. I miss d good old days of remedy and plantaishun boyz and tribesmen. D foreign ones aren't left out. D likes of lil wayne, juicy j and nicki. Dats why i still listen to music from d early 80s to mid 2000s. My best rapper still remains flo rida 1 Like
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Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Rapmoney(m): 9:08am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Mention: And that's why the average Nigerian student is dull. Nothing intellectual in what they listen to. 3 Likes |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by abdulaz: 9:08am On Sep 07, 2014 |
You have said it all that 'your level of mentality determines the kind of music you listen to' 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Nobody: 9:11am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Rapmoney:are u promoting him? |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by litetias(m): 9:14am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Yeah American hiphop is pretty narcissistic, agreed. However, their lines are pretty much laced with intelligence. Their songs have themes, how it is to be a rich black, the coldness of the music industry, growing up in the projects and if you're living over there you'll be able to relate to what they are saying cos you've probably passed through the same experiences. Also most of them have songwriters who write meaningful lyrics for them. The same is not true for our local artists bar a few like M.I., Jesse, Modenine, Erigga, who really tell it how it is to be living in Nigeria. I can relate with their experiences and feel like they're singing about me. Wizkid, Davido and their ilk on the other hand are not that intelligent enough to connect with mature thinkers. 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by RayCharles(m): 9:15am On Sep 07, 2014 |
horlabiyi: I'm sorry to tell you this op. Most of those foreign artiste you are seeing as music lords sing trash too. Just listen to the likes of Lil Wayne,Rick Ross,2chainz etc all they talk about is Womanliness,weed,booty and clubbing. Though there are some artiste that always kill the lyrics like Bruno Mars and co. Respect to the likes of Jesse Jags,Vector,Olamide,Reminisce,9ice and their mama Asa. How many pple you bless that ow u measure sucess- Robert Leonard William a.k.a Rick Ross 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Rapmoney(m): 9:17am On Sep 07, 2014 |
apexviper: xo au abt d foreign musicians wu talks abt pussy ,aving ,sex nd d likes.bro,hip hop iz lyk dat nau,only few ppl av actuali gat musical talents Leave peeps like 2chainz and likes out of this. They are just like few trees in a forest. As immoral as you might think 50 cents or Lil Wayne is, they still talk sense. Listen to their albums. Can you say that about naija artistes? An artiste releases an album and almost all the tracks talk about butts and bosoms! Common, what are you saying? |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Mention(m): 9:18am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Rapmoney:Even in d days of Fela there were dull students and people complained of poor standard of education then... Things would only get worse.. Don't blame the students, their society made them what they are.. Even among the guys in seminary who pray 20/24 hours, and listen to catholic hymns and Fr. Mbaka Songs, there are still the dull and corrupt ones... So don't blame everything on the type of music.. |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Rapmoney(m): 9:24am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Ademolapaul: are u promoting him? Nah, am just giving him the rep for his high intellectual capacity. Na better tomatoes dey sell imself for market |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Nobody: 9:26am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Rapmoney:lol |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Rapmoney(m): 9:29am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Mention: I am not saying the average Nigerian student is dull because naija songs. What am saying is that the contents of these songs act as a source of distraction for these students. The total behaviour of a child has something still to do with what he/she listens to. 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Rapmoney(m): 9:29am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Mention: I am not saying the average Nigerian student is dull because of naija songs. What am saying is that the contents of these songs act as a source of distraction for these students. The total behaviour of a child has something still to do with what he/she listens to. 2 Likes |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Nobody: 9:30am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Rapmoney:well,ur ryt, tanks 4 d correction 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by litetias(m): 9:30am On Sep 07, 2014 |
VIPERVENOM: most Naija artistes have no creativity dats why they sing nonsense. D annoying part is dat d ones dat sing meaningful music dont sell. I miss d good old days of remedy and plantaishun boyz and tribesmen. D foreign ones aren't left out. D likes of lil wayne, juicy j and nicki. Dats why i still listen to music from d early and mid 2000s. My best rapper still remains flo ridaI agree with you to a large extent. On the issue of Tunechi, I think its important to note that on the surface his music is shallow but his music is actually one of the most intellectual. His lyrics have deep meanings. For example from What Is Wrong With Them featuring Nicki: Uh, mind over matter Money over all The World is on my shoulders, Shall I dust my shoulders off? Uzi rat-a-tatter, knocking over walls Fuc*k the bullshit, but just don't fuc*k it raw man Puss*y has a pattern and I know where I'm going And if you got beef I turn into a tenderloin Sanity kills so I live the crazy life I wonder if you'll pay attention if I change the price Life is my wife, till death do us part Man I'm fly as fuc*k you ain't even next to depart Quick draw McGraw, I hope you like art That's some deep stuff that you have to take one or two listenings to really understand but in essence he's really passing across what its like to walk in his shoes. 1 Like |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by sexzskil(f): 9:34am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Wetin konsine me with church or mosque. Ehm, BACK IN THE DAYS, NAIJA HIPHOP ARTISTS DIRECTLY COPY THE STYLES OF UNIVERSAL SUPERSTARS LIKE EMINEM, TWISTA, 2 PAC, NELLY, JARULE, BIGGIE, NAS, ETC, BUT TODAY YOU HAVE HUSTLERS WHO ACCIDENTALLY STUMBLED INTO THE INDUSTRY DOING AFRO-POP AND CALLING IT HIP-HOP, THE LIKES OF IM.BE.CILES LIKE olamide, but that guy called Phyno is really trying to sound like real American hiphop, even his videos. Perfect examples are Man of the Year and #Alobam. IN ALL, YOU ENTERTAIN BUT ALSO MAKE IMPACT. THIS IS WHY I ALWAYS SAID WE AFRICANS HAVE NO CELEBRITY. THE ONES I CAN MANAGE TO CELEBRATE ARE WRITERS AND BUSINESS MEN. 3 Likes |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Canme4u(m): 9:36am On Sep 07, 2014 |
flolancracker: I so love this track.me too like ahm like madt. Vetor's Raps make sense with a lot of rymhs. |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by omoadeleye(m): 9:37am On Sep 07, 2014 |
priscaoge: Someone was playing one song like that when I was in a Bus,they call it "S3x TAPE". I was shocked when I heard d lyrics lol, patoranking be that. .. not a mix tape |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by RebelLeader15(m): 9:38am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Even Prophet Fela Anikulapo Kuti sef sing about yanch Anywhere yanch go yanch Up,down,left,right How we nor go talk Because nothing wey yanch dey do wey nor dey sweet $hit, pis$, fu-ck... E dey sweet well now, because yanch na wonderful material property |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by icekidgodfrey(m): 9:43am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Rapmoney: I used 'hip hop' because I didn't want to use 'music'. Music consists of both native/cultural, gospel, etc. There are lots of naija cultural songs I can kill for; they cut across many Nigerian languages. When it comes to gospel, there are songs and artistes I admire. I can play the likes of Frank Edwards, Chris Morgan, Boniface Adefu, Sinach, etc all day Altered caption, you the wrong audience reading the trend. When I saw 'Hiphop' I thought it was like real hiphop in Nigeria... Better yet, stick to what it should be; you're writing about 'Nigerian Music', I really think that gotta be a different genre. |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Tonylyte(m): 9:46am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Idrismusty97: All they sing about is cars,fame,money and women. Not only in Nigeria but hip hop all over the world. Why would i be listening to people praising themselves and demeaning everyone else in their songs …2Face idibia is the only hip hop artist that i respect in nigeria becos of the msg his songs(one love, for instance, oh papa, you no holy pass, down there...et all) carries...dbanj, psquare, wizzy, davido et all are noisemakers. Imo though. |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by RebelLeader15(m): 9:48am On Sep 07, 2014 |
litetias: Yeah American hiphop is pretty narcissistic, agreed. However, their lines are pretty much laced with intelligence. Their songs have themes, how it is to be a rich black, the coldness of the music industry, growing up in the projects and if you're living over there you'll be able to relate to what they are saying cos you've probably passed through the same experiences. Also most of them have songwriters who write meaningful lyrics for them. The same is not true for our local artists bar a few like M.I., Jesse, Modenine, Erigga, who really tell it how it is to be living in Nigeria. I can relate with their experiences and feel like they're singing about me. Wizkid, Davido and their ilk on the other hand are not that intelligent enough to connect with mature thinkers.bro, you sound like a Fu+kstard, Erigga wey dey sing rubbish na m u mention so... That guy na d worst, u don listen to Paper boy and other rubbish wey e sing "Go ashawo quaters go daga opo" Abi na month strict gan you wan talk |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by mbulela: 9:48am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Rapmoney:If no one was buying it,theywould have stopped. Even the corporate entities are as guilty. Check out the brand ambassadors. |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Rapmoney(m): 9:49am On Sep 07, 2014 |
RebelLeader15: Even Prophet Fela Anikulapo Kuti sef sing about yanch If na dis kind of fathers we go get in the nearest future, then Olorun save us! And u be choir master for your church o! |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by litetias(m): 9:53am On Sep 07, 2014 |
RebelLeader15: bro, you sound like a Fu+kstard, Erigga wey dey sing rubbish na m u mention so...Listen my friend, I be Warri boy. Erigga dey tell u how the hustle be for Waffi you dey dere dey judge. |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by AdemolaA2: 9:53am On Sep 07, 2014 |
May the creator bless this poster .I was and i'm still on the same opinion with you poster .I hate these rants ,noises filtering nigerian airwaves nowadays .I begin to feel i'm even better than these peeps lyrically when i freestyle . i get no inspiration from any of these noisemakers . big ups to JesseJagz always for repping the truth .. |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by litetias(m): 9:54am On Sep 07, 2014 |
mbulela:You're right. Glo, Mtn, Star are the worst |
Re: Naija Hip Hop And Its Emptiness (Stroking The Admiration Of The Shallow Minds) by Kayharry(m): 9:55am On Sep 07, 2014 |
"Your bottom big like trailer My money big like whale o It's very long like vuvuzela o It's very strong to cure your pain o" -Davido "Oya back to the matter Open and close touch your toes baby oya yodi Back to the matter Open and close touch your toes baby oya yodi Kelewa sarewa sa re wa gba Kogbeni wa baby girl gbesoke gbesile Mo ni ko gbeni wa Today na shalewa Tomorrow na vanessa I dey give many things Enough to go around -Wizkid Driving and listening to the radio. Your kids are singing these songs word for word. They don't understand yoruba but they are singing it with gusto like they are in an audition for Project Fame. They get to the second "sarewagba" chorus and you can bear it no longer. You turn off the radio. "Mummy, why?!!! We like the song" "Well, it's not appropriate" "Ok, put Beyonce" "Which song?" "Drunk in love" "Errm...not appropriate either" "What of Katy Perry?" "Which one?" "Roar" Does a quick run through of the song in my mind. Ok. That seems fine. Hmmm....nobody sings children-friendly songs anymore sha. Na wa. Have you tried watching any of these music videos with your kid in the room? *cringe factor raise to power 100* Don't just try it. |
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