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Bible Said Jesus Will Go To HELL / My Friend Saw Her Late Mother In HELL FIRE :'( :'( / "YOU ARE DOGS, SAID JESUS" Christians who are Hypertensive should'nt read this (2) (3) (4)
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 4:52am On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: TRY TO DO ALOT OF RESEARCH AND FOLLOW WHAT JESUS REALLY PRACTICE (ISLAM PEACE) WHEN IS IN THE WORLD JOHN 14:27 PEACE I LEAVE WITH YOUjesus say "my peace I give unto you not as the world giveth unto thee" but you ignorant muslims are invoking the peace of God on muhammad whenever you called his name because you guys are not sure if he is in heaven. According to quran 29:27. muhammad is a false prophet,he is in hell. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 5:00am On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: Matt 15:23-24: "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel".that why I say you are spiritualy dead. Jesus say" go ye into the WORLD and preach the gospel to ALL NATION" foolish muslim. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 5:06am On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: Matthew 10:34-36English Standard Version (ESV)spiritualy deff, this prophecy is being fulfilled in our very own eyes. many muslims are converting to christian , they are following the message of christ, because of this they are killed by there very own family . |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 5:13am On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: as you can see how the bible say bad thing about jesus we muslim cant say that bad things to prophet of god and for your information jesus is a muslim and practice islamall this bible verse you are quoting, do you believe it is the original gospel allah say he give to jesus? If no, produce the original gospel,Allah say he give jesus a book, were is the book? or is allah is weak to protect the gospel?. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 5:21am On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: whosoever said you are fool will be liable to hell fire and jesus you fool and blindIS MUHAMMAD IN HEAVEN OR HELL? The truth about Islam has been one of the world's best-kept secrets. But things have changed. With the advent of the Internet, it is now impossible for Muslims to keep the dark teachings of Islam a secret. People are now becoming aware of the true nature of Islam and Muslims are unable to silence everyone. The entire structure of Islam is built upon the belief that Muhammad was mankind's greatest prophet. As such, we would expect Allah to reward him with heavenly bliss immediately upon his death. Yet, Islam itself teaches that following his death, Allah's greatest prophet descended into Hell. Consider now the evidences provided by Islam. The Qur'an teaches that all Muslims, including Muhammad, will go into Hell? Each time when Muslims make a reference to Muhammad, they say "Peace be upon him." They say this to bless and honor Muhammad. The command to add this blessing after mentioning Muhammad's name is based on the Qur'anic injunction that is found in Surah 33:56: Lo! Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation. (Pickthall) However, in order for Muslims to send their blessings upon Muhammad, they must know exactly where their Prophet is right now. It might come as a shock for Muslims to know that according to the most authentic Hadith in the Muslim world and substantiated by a Qur'anic verse, their beloved Prophet is in Hell. Yes! The Prophet of Islam is in Hell. And together with him are his pious followers who have passed away in death till now. And Muslims who are living now will also share the same destination when they die. Unbelievable? Examine now for yourself what the Qur'an and authentic Islamic sources teach on this very crucial subject. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770: Narrated Abu Huraira: The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.' There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water..." Muslims may find the above narration incredible. Again, this shows the ignorance of Muslims regarding their religion. There is no ambiguity in this Hadith. It clearly states that Muhammad and his followers are in "Hell." According to this Hadith, Muhammad is not in heaven but in "Hell," awaiting for the arrival of the "Day of Judgment" to get into heaven. And he will be the first to cross the bridge with his followers to go to heaven. Please note, this bridge (As- Sirat) is "laid across Hell" and serves as an exit to heaven. Since the bridge is "laid across Hell," Muhammad has to be in "Hell" for the Hadith to speak of him as being among the first to use it to come out from there. The "Day of Resurrection" or "Qiyamah" refers to the time of the end. This means, even as you are reading this article, Muhammad is in "Hell" awaiting to be rescued. This fact is further substantiated by the admission that even pious Muslims who pray regularly will be consumed by fire, leaving only the "marks of their prostration" untouched. According to the above Hadith, the bodies of those in "Hell" will be consumed by fire. "At that time - the Day of Resurrection - they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons." In corroboration with the above Hadith, the Qur'an says that all Muslims - every single one of them - will be taken to Hell. Surah 19:71: "It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that every one of you will be taken to hell." (Sarwar) "There is not one of you who shall not pass through the confines of Hell." (Dawood) And the very next verse tells us: Surah 19:72: "Then (Thumma) We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there." (Pickthall) "Afterwards (Thumma) we will deliver those who shall have been pious, but we will leave the ungodly therein on their knees." (Sale) The word "Then" (Thumma) used in this verse exemplify that there is a chronological order of events. First the entry into Hell. "Then" being saved from it. Note the wordings of Surah 19:72: "We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there." You only"rescue" someone who is in some kind of danger. However, this rescue operation will only take place on "Judgment Day." Until then - for centuries - pious Muslims will be consumed by fire. Only the dark spots on the skin of their foreheads caused by years of prostration to Allah will escape the effects of the fire. This is Allah's reward for their faithful prayers to him. Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0349: "They (the angels) would recognise them in the Fire by the marks of prostration, for Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt…" Al-Jalalayn's Tafsir on Surah 19:71 ("Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished" , gives the following clarification: "Not one" means that there will be none. "Of you" means all people. "But will pass through" means the entry into hell. "A decree which must be accomplished" means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: www.al- islam.com. Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71: Surah 19:71: "Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished." Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of 'Passing through it' (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, 'Pass through it,' and he replied that, "Everyone shall enter it." (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 5:29am On Sep 10, 2014 |
Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71: Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al- Azraq regarding the meaning of, 'Entering (Al-wurood).' He said it meant 'Entering (Hell),' but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) "'Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),' and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) 'He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!' Did they enter or not? As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don't see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning)." Nafi then laughed. Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell's roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah's verse (Surah 11:98) 'He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,' and also the verse (Surah 19:86) 'And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)'? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) 'Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it'? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, 'O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.'" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia. Who is Ibn Abbas? Ibn Abbas (618 C.E.-687 C.E.) was a paternal cousin of the Prophet Muhammad. He is revered by Muslims for his knowledge. He was an expert in Tafsir (exegesis of the Qur'an), as well as an authority on the Islamic Sunnah. He knew exactly how Islamic terms are understood and applied. And according to him, all Muslims, including Muhammad, will enter and taste Hell- fire. Let the Qur'an itself give us a classification of the "Islamic Hell": Surah 74:28-30: "It leaveth not (any thing unconsumed), neither doth it suffer (any thing) to escape: It scorcheth men's flesh: Over the same (are) nineteen (angels appointed)." (Sale) It is sad that all Muslims are waiting for this "fiery destiny." As stated, Muhammad is in Hell. But what about Jesus Christ? Concerning Jesus Christ, the Qur'an itself testifies in Surah 4:158: "But Allah took him (Jesus) up unto Himself and he is in the heavens." (Hilali- Khan) Jesus is in Heaven. And concerning the followers of Jesus Christ, the Qur'an states: Surah 3:55: "Behold! Allah said: 'O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of the falsehood of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection." (Yusuf Ali) Allah said: "O Jesus! I am going to recall you (from your mission) and raise you up to Myself. I will clean you of those who rejected you and exalt your followers above the unbelievers until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return and I shall judge those matters in which you have been disputing. (F. Malik) The above statement in the Qur'an reveals the superiority of those who follow Jesus.Those who follow Jesus are Christians. Of course, this does not apply to those who are Christians in name only but to those who are his true faithful followers. These are the ones who will be exalted. They are exalted, not because of any personal superiority on their part but on account of truly submitting to the teachings of Christ as it is revealed in the Holy Bible. According to the above Qur'anic verse, Christians will be "exalted" or made "superior" until the Day of Resurrection. The Day of Resurrection or Qiyamah refers to the "time of the end." For Christians to be exalted until the time of the end, it logically follows that true Christianity must remain as a religion in this world until the "time of the end." For true Christianity to remain as a religion in this world until the "time of the end," true Christians must be present in this world until the "time of the end." For true Christians to be present in this world until the time of the end, they must have a righteous standing with God until the "time of the end." For them to have a righteous standing with God until the time of the end, they must be guided righteously until the "time of the end." For them to be guided righteously until the time of the end, the Holy Book in their possession must remain true until the "time of the end." For the Qur'an to testify that the followers of Jesus Christ will be made "superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection," the above detailed stages regarding the favorable standing of Christians must be accomplished precisely. And this would vitally include the integrity of the Bible which is in their possession. The above Qur'anic verse proves beyond any doubt that the Holy Bible is indeed sufficient for the outworking of the Christian's salvation, both now and in the future. Thus, we can be confident that the teachings of the Bible will remain as the authoritative guidance for mankind for all eternity. Therefore, the claim that the Qur'an was sent to replace the Bible or that the Bible is corrupted is a deliberate lie. Concerning the Holy Bible, it is stated: 2 Timothy 3:16-17: "All Scripture is given by the inspiration of God and is profitable for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for instruction in righteousness,that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." If the Bible can provide such an encompassing knowledge of salvation for mankind, would there then be a need for another book to show us the truth about God? Islamic leaders discourage their followers from reading the Bible. Muslims will do well to consider the teachings of the Bible. Their eternal salvation depends on it. The path to salvation cannot be found in the path that leads you to Hell, even momentarily. Sadly, most Muslims have chosen to follow the recitation of a single, 7th century illiterate whose book is the direct opposite of how God chose to reveal the way of salvation over a period of 1600 years by means of the inspired accounts of numerous prophets and legions of witnesses. Surah 19:71 must be extremely disturbing to Muslims, who can only look forward to Hell-fire immediately upon their death. If Christians are made superior until the Day of Resurrection as the Qur'an itself testifies, where do you think will be their final destination? Muslims should seriously consider whom they want to follow, the one who is in Hell or the one who is raised up to be with God in heaven? And they must also consider whom they want to worship - Allah who promises "Hell-fire" or Jehovah who promises "Eternal life"? The difference between Allah of the Qur'an and Jehovah of the Bible is that Allah promises Hell- fire for his worshippers while Jehovah promises Eternal life. Allah, Muhammad, Islam and the Qur'an make it clear that "Hell" is a certainty for all Muslims. Does it have to be your destiny too? Certainly not. You can choose to follow the true God who will show you the way to everlasting life. However, Muhammad's destination is not the only theological problem for Muslims to contend with. We will now look at another Islamic historical account of Muhammad that should trouble Muslims. The Bewitched Prophet The validity of Islam is closely linked to the reliability of Muhammad. The Qur'an testifies in a number of places that Satan will not be able to harm any of Allah's righteous servants. Surah 15:39-42: (Iblis) said: "O my Lord! Because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong, - Except Thy servants among them, sincere and purified (by Thy Grace)." (God) said: "This (way of My sincere servants) is indeed a way that leads straight to Me. For over My servants no authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong and follow thee." (Yusuf Ali) This Qur'anic verse clearly proclaims that Satan will have no authority over Allah's servants. If this verse is true, then it means that Satan or the demons will not be able to exercise any influence over Muhammad - the foremost servant of Allah. Thus, at no instant should Muhammad come under the power or the spell of the demons. This should be especially true during his career as the Prophet of Allah. This is the full inference of Allah's reply to Satan in the above Qur'anic verse. However, the following Hadiths clearly show that Muhammad was bewitched: Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 490: Narrated By 'Aisha: Magic was worked on the Prophet so that he began to fancy that he was doing a thing which he was not actually doing. One day he invoked (Allah) for a long period and then said, "I feel that Allah has inspired me as how to cure myself. Two persons came to me (in my dream) and sat, one by my head and the other by my feet. One of them asked the other, "What is the ailment of this man?" The other replied, 'He has been bewitched" The first asked, 'Who has bewitched him?' The other replied, 'Lubaid bin Al-A'sam.' The first one asked, 'What material has he used?' The other replied, 'A comb, the hair gathered on it, and the outer skin of the pollen of the male date-palm.' The first asked, 'Where is that?' The other replied, 'It is in the well of Dharwan.' "So, the Prophet went out towards the well and then returned and said to me on his return, "Its date-palms (the date-palms near the well) are like the heads of the devils." I asked, "Did you take out those things with which the magic was worked?" He said, "No, for I have been cured by Allah and I am afraid that this action may spread evil amongst the people." Later on the well was filled up with earth. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 89: Narrated By 'Aisha: The Prophet continued for such-and-such period imagining that he has slept (had intimate relations) with his wives, and in fact he did not. One day he said, to me, "O 'Aisha! Allah has instructed me regarding a matter about which I had asked Him. There came to me two men, one of them sat near my feet and the other near my head. The one near my feet, asked the one near my head (pointing at me), 'What is wrong with this man? The latter replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.' Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 660: Narrated By 'Aisha : Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to think that he had intimate relations with his wives while he actually had not (Sufyan said: That is the hardest kind of magic as it has such an effect)…." Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 75, Number 400: Narrated Hisham's father: 'Aisha said, ", so he invoked Allah repeatedly requesting Him to cure him from that magic)." The above Hadiths unmistakably state that "Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle" and "Allah's Apostle was bewitched." How could evil overtake the "Seal of Prophets"? Why was Allah unable to protect his Prophet from the influence of the demons as he had promised in Surah 15:42? The verse states: "For over My servants no authority shalt thou (Iblis) have, except such as put themselves in the wrong and follow thee." Since the Qur'an states that Satan can only exercise power over those who follow him, does not this prove that Muhammad was a follower of Satan? Asbab Al-Nuzul by Ali ibn Ahmad Al- Wahidi, Q. 113-114: (Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the Daybreak…) [113:1-5] The commentators of the Qur'an said: "The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, had a Jewish servant boy. The Jews approached him and kept after him until he gave them some fallen hair from the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, as well as a few teeth from his comb. The Jews used these to cast a spell of black magic on him. The person who was behind this was the Jew Labid ibn al- A'sam. He then put the hair in a well belonging to Banu Zurayq called Dharwan. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, fell ill for a period of six month, during which the hair of his head fell off; he imagined that he slept with his wives when he did not, and was withering away without knowing the reason. As he was one day sleeping, he saw two angels coming to him. One of them sat at his head and the other at his feet. The angel who sat at his head asked: 'What is wrong with the man?' The second angel responded: 'A spell of black magic was cast on him'. (Source: Altafsir.com) Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah: "From B. Zurayq: Labib b. A'sam, who bewitched the apostle of God so that he could not come at his wives." (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah - The Life of Muhammad -Translated by A. Guillaume, p. 240). Guillaume's footnotes states that according to a Muslim scholar, the spell lasted for a year. Lubaid bin Al-A'sam was a Jewish magician from the tribe of Bani Zaraiq. It is important to note that this incident occurred after Muhammad migrated and settled in Medina. Muhammad's arrival in Medina took place during the thirteenth year of his prophetic career. This means long after he became a prophet, he succumbed to the control of demons. By this time Muhammad had accumulated a number of wives. Think for a minute, Muhammad is supposed to be receiving revelations from Allah and he is supposed to be the greatest among Allah's prophets. Yet, Muhammad was so bewitched that for at least six months or even nearly a year he came under the control of demons and he believed he was having intimate relations with his wives, when in reality he did not do so. Details on this event are also provided in Ibn Sa'd's "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" (Book of the Major Classes), Volume 2, pages 244 to 248. Here is a relevant quote: "The apostle of Allah fell ill. He was bewitched about women and food. ...There were eleven knots [in the hair from the comb]. The two Surahs no. 113 and 114 were revealed to him. No sooner did the apostle of Allah recited a verse than a knot loosened. When all of them were loosened, he regained his urge for food and women." Muslims take pride in saying that Surahs 113 and 114 cured Muhammad from the Jewish spell. Firstly, this claim is in itself an admission that Muhammad was bewitched. Otherwise, why was there a need to cure him from the influence of the demons? Secondly, a true prophet of God is not even supposed to be affected by sorcery in the first place. The Bible says that God's servants will not come under demonic control such as sorcery because of the protection of Jehovah over them: Numbers 23:23: "There is no sorcery against Jacob. No magic can harm Israel." |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 5:37am On Sep 10, 2014 |
Deuteronomy 18:18-22 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Let me give you several reasons why The God of the Bible doesn't choose men that sleep with 9 year old girls as his prophets: 1. When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic - The prophets of God knows the voice of God and when He calls them. They can clearly distinguish between demons and the one true God 2. Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff - The prophets of God are not suicidal, they don't try to kill themselves because God spoke to them. 3. According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses" - The God of the Bible doesn't tell His prophets that it is okay to worship idols and worship Him as well. Christians don't engage in idolatry and Paganism, they believe in the one true God. 4. Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs - The true God prophets don't fall under magic spell or juju. We don't deal with juju in the Bible, neither does God prophets deal with juju or are influenced by juju. 5. Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers - Only God is to be adored, honored and worshiped. Muslims have given Mohammad the ascension of God and free of error when in truth he was a sinner 6. Mohammad said if a man sleeps with his wife and Erupt.s 1st, the child will look like the man. If the woman Erupt.s 1st, the child would look like the mother - Genetics and DNA are the reasons we resemble our parents and intimate pleasure has nothing to do with it. 7. The Qur'an affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Jewish and Christian scriptures (3:3-4; 5:43-47; 5:68; 6:114-115; 7:157; 10:94; 18:27; etc.). Yet our scriptures plainly declare that Muhammad is a false prophet and an antichrist. Problem? 8. In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed. 9. The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels. 10. The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims - Una no sabi history. Alexander the great was a pagan 11. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation 12. The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent intimate misconduct. 13. Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha - How can Mohammad then be the one mentioned in Deuto 18:18. God prophets don't sleep with children 14. Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions. 15. When Muhammad's wives asked why he was giving special privileges to Aisha, he justified his actions by saying that he received revelations while wearing Aisha's dress! - God condemns men that wear women clothing and women that wear men clothing. If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by Emusan(m): 8:57am On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: LOL there is no verse that said such [size=14pt]a thing blasphemous talk[/size] without evidence whenever i cote a bible i give u verse @Bold-if I now provide evidence that means Quran is a blasphemous book. Sign unto Mankind: The universal ministry of Christ has been one of the most attacked aspects of his mission. Most Muslims believe that Christ was not a universal prophet like Muhammad, rather similar to prophets before him; he was limited to his own people. To prove their point Muslims extract certain passages from the Bible, which on the surface would seem to confirm that Christ's mission was indeed limited to Israel (Matthew 10:5-6, 15:22-24). This practice however, stands in neglect of scores of other verses that show quite conclusively that the mission of Jesus was geared toward the whole of mankind. (The reader may refer to John 4:40-42 as one example of this fact.) What the Muslims also seem to overlook is the point that the Quran itself bears testimony to the universal mission of Christ: He said: "so (it will be): thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for me: and (we wish) to appoint him(Jesus) as a sign unto men and mercy from us.'" S. 19:21 And (remember) who guarded her chastity: "We breathed into her of our Spirit and We made her and her son(Jesus) a sign for all peoples." S. 21:91 Yusuf Ali states in two separate footnotes to the above verses that Jesus was meant to be a sign for the world: "Mary the mother of Jesus, chastity was her special virtue: with a son of virgin birth, she and Jesus became a miracle to all nations. This was the virtue with which they (both Mary and Jesus) resisted evil." (1:815, f. 2748) "The mission of Jesus is announced in two ways (1) he was to be a sign to men: his wonderful birth and wonderful life were to turn an [size=14pt]ungodly world[/size] to Allah: and (2) his mission was to bring solace and salvation to the repentant ..." (1:748, f. 2473) Question: If Jesus' was meant to be a sign for the whole world, how can this be achieved without His message preached in all Nations? Maybe Allah as usual is confused for making Jesus to be a sign to all nations then abrogate it and shifted it t on Muhammad. I know your mind never comprehend the above verses because of the confusion in your head. I can still give you other people opinion on UNIVERSAL mission of Jesus Christ in Islam. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by wirelessssss(m): 9:14am On Sep 10, 2014 |
abdulwastecx: I wrote this: He preached love and peace: You inadvertently quoted it thus: He preached love and peace: There's an omission within the space of some hours how much more scriptures that were transmitted and translated for centuries. I'm no religionist thus I wouldn't depend on a single book to verify truth. I am convinced of the person of Jesus the Christ |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by MrDoGood(m): 12:12pm On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: u said the bible they confuse me is that not the book u believe is god's word d bible is like two edge sword. study it well so u dnt cut urself |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 10:39pm On Sep 10, 2014 |
MrDoGood:LOL you like deceiving urself just take this 1 Corinthians 1:25King James Version (KJV) 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by MrDoGood(m): 10:43pm On Sep 10, 2014 |
tola9ja: LOL you like deceiving urself just take this wt has dis gat to do wt d advise i gave u? |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 11:20pm On Sep 10, 2014 |
Emusan:YOU NEED TOO LEARN THE DIFERENT BETWEEN SIGN AND SEND YOU TO THE WHOLE WORLD JESUS WAS ONLY SEND TO THE ISREALITE STOP DECEIVING URSELF YOU SHALL NO THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 11:23pm On Sep 10, 2014 |
malvisguy212: IS MUHAMMAD IN HEAVEN OR HELL?THE FUNNIEST MAN ON EARTH |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 11:28pm On Sep 10, 2014 |
malvisguy212: all this bible verse you are quoting, do you believe it is the original gospel allah say he give to jesus? If no, produce the original gospel,Allah say he give jesus a book, were is the book?ALLAH DOSE NOT PROMISE TO PROTECT ANY BOOK EXCEPT QURAN AND AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BLASPHEMY YOU ALL SAY ABOUT THE QUR'AN STILL ENCOURAGE MANY UNBELIEVER TO JOIN ISLAM SO CONTINUE TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH MAY ALLAH SHOW YOU WHAT JESUS REALLY PRACTICE |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 11:38pm On Sep 10, 2014 |
malvisguy212: jesus say "my peace I give unto you not as the world giveth unto thee" but you ignorant muslims are invoking the peace of God on muhammad whenever you called his name because you guys are not sure if he is in heaven.SEE HOW U SAY WHAT QURAN DOSE NOT SAY DIDU THINK IT IS BIBLE THAT CONTAIN 50,000 CONTRADICTION FALLACY INCONSISTENCY ANACHRONISM E.T.C Surat Al-`Ankabūt (The Spider) - سورة العنكبوت This is a portion of the entire surah. View more context, or the entire surah. to top 29:27 Sahih International And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous. WHERE DID YOU SEE MUHAMMED IS A FAKE PROPHET OBADIAH 1:1 AND WE HAVE HEARD THE RUMOR FROM THE LORD SO U COPY UR LORD THAT SAY RUMOR THAT IS WHY IS MUHHAMED IS A FAKE PROPHET GREATEST BLASPHEMY 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 7:33am On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja: ALLAH DOSE NOT PROMISE TO PROTECT ANY BOOK EXCEPT QURAN AND AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BLASPHEMY YOU ALL SAY ABOUT THE QUR'AN STILL ENCOURAGE MANY UNBELIEVER TO JOIN ISLAM SO CONTINUE TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH MAY ALLAH SHOW YOU WHAT JESUS REALLY PRACTICEallah recommend the gospel and torah to muhammad , which mean it is his word, if the gospel and torah is not allah word he would'nt have recommended the book to muhammad.and now you guys say the gospel and torah has been change, here is a verse in the quran read.....quran 6:115.Sahih International And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing. When you guys say the gospel and torah has been change, your making Allah a weak god because he fail to protect his word. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 7:39am On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja: SEE HOW U SAY WHAT QURAN DOSE NOT SAY DIDU THINK IT IS BIBLE THAT CONTAIN 50,000 CONTRADICTION FALLACY INCONSISTENCY ANACHRONISM E.T.Care you blind? You read witout understanding, that is how you read the quran 29:27 Sahih International And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants PROPHETHOOD and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous. IS MUHAMMAD FROM THE DESCENDANT OF ISAAC AND JACOB? 1 Like |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 7:51am On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja: THE FUNNIEST MAN ON EARTHmuhammad is in hell, according to your hadith and quran.you can save your self now that you still have hope, just confess the Lordship of they Lord jesus and be save. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by Emusan(m): 9:04am On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja: YOU NEED TOO LEARN THE DIFERENT BETWEEN SIGN AND SEND YOU TO THE WHOLE WORLD JESUS WAS ONLY SEND TO THE ISREALITE STOP DECEIVING URSELF So why Muhammad not in Nigeria preaching the word of Allah today? The verses above is enough for you to tell yourself the truth including the commentary of Yusuf Ali. YOU SHALL NO THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE The last time I check it was Jesus who made this statement John 8:32 and He reveals who the truth is..."...I am the Way, THE TRUTH (al-haqq), and the Life..." and I still remember that The TRUTH (al-haqq) is one of Allahs' name. Do you know Jesus? |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by Emusan(m): 9:11am On Sep 11, 2014 |
malvisguy212: are you blind? You read witout understanding, that is how you read the quran They just want to force their false prophet into Bible without even scrutinized their own book very well. Imaging PROPHETHOOD was placed in Isaac line yet Muhammad was a PROPHET from Ismael line....confuse people. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by Emusan(m): 9:26am On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja: [size=14pt]ALLAH DOSE NOT PROMISE TO PROTECT ANY BOOK EXCEPT QURAN[/size] In fact this your statement is so weak and illogical. So if Allah didn't promise protection over the previous books YET Allah still wants PEOPLE who have already been following a PROTECTED book (The Muslims) to believe in THOSE UNPROTECTED books. If I tell you that Muslims are so confuse you will think I'm lying. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BLASPHEMY YOU ALL SAY ABOUT THE QUR'AN STILL ENCOURAGE MANY UNBELIEVER TO JOIN ISLAM SO CONTINUE TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH MAY ALLAH SHOW YOU WHAT JESUS REALLY PRACTICE Jesus practiced Islam as usual even though Quran confuse about WHO brought ISLAM whether it's Muhammad or Adam or what do you want us to know again. Keep deceiving yourself. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 7:56pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Emusan:when someone is spiritualy blind, they will defend lies with everytin they've got. Thank you friend, God bless you. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 8:47pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Emusan: John 8:32English Standard Version (ESV) 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” 1 Corinthians 1:25King James Version (KJV) 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. your scripture said your lord sometime behave foolishly |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 8:57pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja:no need to reply you, your are spiritualy blind. This book is for you. The book of isaiah 6: 8-13" Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. Send me!” 9 He said, “Go and tell this people: “‘Be ever hearing, but never UNDERSTANDING ; be ever seeing, but never PERCEIVING .’ 10 Make the heart of this people CALLOUSED; make their ears DULL and close their EYES.[a] Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.” 11 Then I said, “For how long, Lord?” And he answered: “Until the cities lie ruined and without inhabitant, until the houses are left deserted and the fields ruined and ravaged, 12 until the Lord has sent everyone far away and the land is utterly forsaken. 13 And though a tenth remains in the land, it will again be laid waste. But as the terebinth and oak leave stumps when they are cut down, so the holy seed will be the stump in the land.” |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 9:11pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Emusan: John 9:5King James Version (KJV) 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. now see what jesus said about the comming of muhammed John 14:26 ESV / But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. John 16:13 ESV / When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 1 Corinthians 2:9-13 ESV / But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”— these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. John 15:26 ESV / “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me. in the original manuscript prophet Muhammad name is written in the place you see spirit and if it really the spirit it suppose to be qualify with the word IT not HE think judiciously this is not about religious argument is about establishing the fact jesus was not crucify jesus is a prophet and servant with a lot of evidence Qur'an and bible verses Hebrews 6:1English Standard Version (ESV) 6 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 9:38pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
malvisguy212: muhammad is in hell, according to your hadith and quran.you can save your self now that you still have hope, just confess the Lordship of they Lord jesus and be save.where did jesus said he is lord? |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 9:41pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
malvisguy212: are you blind? You read witout understanding, that is how you read the quranyou lack understanding Allah was telling muhammmed [s.a.w] about all the prophet sent be him use brain before you start argument |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 9:47pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
MrDoGood:can you see how your scripture said your god is foolish take this Psalm 78:65English Standard Version (ESV) 65 Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, like a strong man shouting because of wine. if the day of judgement commence and GOD said everyone of you read the the scripture you believe in and you read this you already no where you are going |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by tola9ja: 9:52pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
malvisguy212: no need to reply you, your are spiritualy blind. This book is for you. The book of isaiah 6: 8-13" Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will 2 Peter 1:20King James Version (KJV) 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 9:56pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja: you lack understanding Allah was telling muhammmed [s.a.w] about all the prophet sent be him use brain before you start argumentyour knowledge of the word of God is Soooo weak, only God can open your understanding.the verse say" we gave him[abraham] isaac and jacob" the verse was talkin about the generation of abraham to jacob i.e..abraham begat isaac and isaac begat jacob.ishmeal was not amoung the generation he was from arab.ishmeal descendent has no PROPHETHOOD, I repeat, MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE PROPHET. |
Re: The Bible Said Jesus Is Liable To Hell Fire by malvisguy212: 9:56pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
tola9ja: you lack understanding Allah was telling muhammmed [s.a.w] about all the prophet sent be him use brain before you start argument |
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