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Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by signz: 10:28pm On Sep 10, 2014
Part of the reason it seems like our military is suffering at the hands of these insurgents is because this article. How a son of Arewa intentionally disarmed the military for fear of coup. Pls read this article.

Security situation is deteriorating—Sen. Saleh
But a member of the Senate Joint National Assembly Committee on Defence and an All Progressives Congress Senator from Kaduna Central, Senator Ahmed Saleh appeared to have dashed the hope of the military winning the war against terrorism even as he said that the situation was getting worse on daily basis.
Senators Saleh, a retired army general said, “What I am going to say is based on my experience as an insider. Our duty here as senators of the federal republic transcends the extension of state of emergency. Our duty of oversight should ensure that high standards must be maintained in addition to acquiring all necessary equipment required to maintain a strong force.
“When the Chief of Defense Staff was appointed in January this year, the service chiefs made a categorical statement that within three months they will crush Boko haram. But unfortunately, what we are seeing is a complete deterioration of the situation, so it is incumbent on us to find out why that deterioration. We have heard about our soldiers’ mutiny, it is also our responsibility to find out why that is happening.
“For us to understand why that is happening, we need to go back to the Babangida (Gen. Ibrahim Babangida) era. After the 1990 Okar coup, the Federal Government of Nigeria systematically and comprehensively disarmed the military.
“All the tanks, all the artillery guns were disarmed and locked up. All the aircraft were parked in Ilorin and other places, flying stopped, training stopped to ensure regime security not national security.
“All the good officers of the Nigerian army were hounded out of the military. And there was over concentration of power at the centre which was the army headquarters. Prior to that, General Officers Commanding used to have training and maneuver grants.
“They had the power and responsibility to train their troops and battalions and to ensure an efficient logistics and service support system. All that stopped. Everything was from Army headquarters, everything was from Air Force headquarters, everything was from Naval headquarters.
“The attendant result was decay. Training was no longer going on at the battalion level, soldiers lost their skills and since then, no additional military equipment was purchased for the Nigerian Army. Even things as little as machine guns were in short supply, ammunition was in short supply.
“An individual soldier’s professional skill was to be a matchman, to shoot and hit his target but can he do that if he has no ammunition? We have a duty to rebuild this army, to rebuild this armed forces, and unless we understand these basic facts, we are not going anywhere.
“Also, after some time the fighting doctrine of the Nigerian Army was changed. We were essentially British brought up. That means we knew how much materials we had, the tasks before us and so on. But along the line during the Obasanjo (Chief Olusegun Obasanjo) regime, General Obasanjo brought Americans here and our doctrine approach was change to warfare.
“I make bold to tell you that up till today nobody understands that. I know it is a strategic concept of warfare but in Nigeria we are applying it to the operational and tactical level. It has created a lot of confusion within our army.
“Apart from that, our involvement in foreign operations and the kind of training we give to our soldiers for operations was a kind of defensive posture. You don’t kill until you are killed, you don’t attack until you are attacked.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-ibb-disarmed-military/

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Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 10:45pm On Sep 10, 2014
BlackTechnology:

Am never worried about Muslim Northern Nigeria but you guys insistence to rule Nigeria

As for Arewa , I know it will tow the path of N.Korea Somalia Afghanistan as can be seen in BH blind desire for a retrogressive system of government

BH will most probably be gone wen ds govt and its sponsors in the govt go, so that issue is done.

As I said, dnt take panadol for anoda man's headache.


Do yours, let us do ours.
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by BlackTechnology: 10:51pm On Sep 10, 2014
lacasa:

BH will most probably be gone wen ds govt and its sponsors in the govt go, so that issue is done.

As I said, dnt take panadol for anoda man's headache.


Do yours, let us do ours.

Your comment is one reason why I strongly believe Arewa will end up as a failed state

You are accusing this govt of sponsoring a group that was in existence before her.

Guy

You disappointed me and further convinced me that the Arewa will be a failed state

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Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 10:54pm On Sep 10, 2014
signz: Part of the reason it seems like our military is suffering at the hands of these insurgents is because this article. How a son of Arewa intentionally disarmed the military for fear of coup. Pls read this article.

Security situation is deteriorating—Sen. Saleh
But a member of the Senate Joint National Assembly Committee on Defence and an All Progressives Congress Senator from Kaduna Central, Senator Ahmed Saleh appeared to have dashed the hope of the military winning the war against terrorism even as he said that the situation was getting worse on daily basis.
Senators Saleh, a retired army general said, “What I am going to say is based on my experience as an insider. Our duty here as senators of the federal republic transcends the extension of state of emergency. Our duty of oversight should ensure that high standards must be maintained in addition to acquiring all necessary equipment required to maintain a strong force.
“When the Chief of Defense Staff was appointed in January this year, the service chiefs made a categorical statement that within three months they will crush Boko haram. But unfortunately, what we are seeing is a complete deterioration of the situation, so it is incumbent on us to find out why that deterioration. We have heard about our soldiers’ mutiny, it is also our responsibility to find out why that is happening.
“For us to understand why that is happening, we need to go back to the Babangida (Gen. Ibrahim Babangida) era. After the 1990 Okar coup, the Federal Government of Nigeria systematically and comprehensively disarmed the military.
“All the tanks, all the artillery guns were disarmed and locked up. All the aircraft were parked in Ilorin and other places, flying stopped, training stopped to ensure regime security not national security.
“All the good officers of the Nigerian army were hounded out of the military. And there was over concentration of power at the centre which was the army headquarters. Prior to that, General Officers Commanding used to have training and maneuver grants.
“They had the power and responsibility to train their troops and battalions and to ensure an efficient logistics and service support system. All that stopped. Everything was from Army headquarters, everything was from Air Force headquarters, everything was from Naval headquarters.
“The attendant result was decay. Training was no longer going on at the battalion level, soldiers lost their skills and since then, no additional military equipment was purchased for the Nigerian Army. Even things as little as machine guns were in short supply, ammunition was in short supply.
“An individual soldier’s professional skill was to be a matchman, to shoot and hit his target but can he do that if he has no ammunition? We have a duty to rebuild this army, to rebuild this armed forces, and unless we understand these basic facts, we are not going anywhere.
“Also, after some time the fighting doctrine of the Nigerian Army was changed. We were essentially British brought up. That means we knew how much materials we had, the tasks before us and so on. But along the line during the Obasanjo (Chief Olusegun Obasanjo) regime, General Obasanjo brought Americans here and our doctrine approach was change to warfare.
“I make bold to tell you that up till today nobody understands that. I know it is a strategic concept of warfare but in Nigeria we are applying it to the operational and tactical level. It has created a lot of confusion within our army.
“Apart from that, our involvement in foreign operations and the kind of training we give to our soldiers for operations was a kind of defensive posture. You don’t kill until you are killed, you don’t attack until you are attacked.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-ibb-disarmed-military/


If we r to go ethnic, then, I ask you too...


What has the son of the SouthSouth done with over 4 trillion naira in 4 years of the budgetary allocation to buy weapons and machinery to fight BH?

Have the weapons and machines been bought? And if not why?.


Why are there stories of corruption aand lack of funds by those at the fronlines?

Why the need to borrow a huge 1billion dollars after spending 4trillion with nothing to show for it?.

Is that not sabotage?

Is the money meant to be siphoned while nigerians and soldiers aree slaughteered?


We need answers from the son of the South South?.
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 11:01pm On Sep 10, 2014
BlackTechnology:

Your comment is one reason why I strongly believe Arewa will end up as a failed state

You are accusing this govt of sponsoring a group that was in existence before her.

Guy

You disappointed me and further convinced me that the Arewa will be a failed state


Correction; a whistleblower accused members of this govt of sponsoring BH and he's australian.

Mr President himself has said to the world that BH sponsors are in his government and that he knows them.

Yes, Boko - Haram (the yusuf bokoharam preceded this government) but Yar'adua dismembered them.

The one we are facing is the Sponsored Political BH that is proving too much to handle by the almighty nigerian army.

And whether Arewa will progress or not is an issue for wen Niggeria eventually breaks. If indeed it does
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by BlackTechnology: 11:19pm On Sep 10, 2014
lacasa:


Correction; a whistleblower accused members of this govt of sponsoring BH and he's australian.

Mr President himself has said to the world that BH sponsors are in his government and that he knows them.

Yes, Boko - Haram (the yusuf bokoharam preceded this government) but Yar'adua dismembered them.

The one we are facing is the Sponsored Political BH that is proving too much to handle by the almighty nigerian army.

And whether Arewa will progress or not is an issue for wen Niggeria eventually breaks. If indeed it does

Who do you think GEJ is referring to


Some Northern Muslims within his govt and some of them are now strong APC members. eg Elrufai was a former PDP who is now a strong APC member
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 11:24pm On Sep 10, 2014
BlackTechnology:

Who do you think GEJ is referring to


Some Northern Muslims within his govt and some of them are now strong APC members. eg Elrufai was a former PDP who is now a strong APC member

El - rufai has never been part of gej's govt and left pdp b4 gej came in.


2ndly, what then stops him as C in C to arrest th northern muslims and end the bombing n killings.

Is he waiting for a sign from the heavens
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by atlwireles: 11:29pm On Sep 10, 2014
lacasa:


If we r to go ethnic, then, I ask you too...


What has the son of the SouthSouth done with over 4 trillion naira in 4 years of the budgetary allocation to buy weapons and machinery to fight BH?

Have the weapons and machines been bought? And if not why?.


Why are there stories of corruption aand lack of funds by those at the fronlines?

Why the need to borrow a huge 1billion dollars after spending 4trillion with nothing to show for it?.

Is that not sabotage?

Is the money meant to be siphoned while nigerians and soldiers aree slaughteered?


We need answers from the son of the South South?.

You keep talking about 4 trillion, direct that question at the NSA. He is the man responsible for military procurement across board. How much do you think it takes to deployed men around the clock in NE Nigeria? How much is the army spending on petrol alone?. Review the armed forces budget, the numbers are out there in black and white.

Secondly the so called 4 trillion cuts across the entire national security platform. Police DSS, Civil defense, all the branches of our armed forces, deployed in almost 25 states across this country, carrying out one operation or the other, are all included in your N4 trillion numbers. These are monies they spent in the last 4.5years.

By the way boko haram is not governing the northwest/east yet, just like the Taliban in Afghanistan or ISIS in the middle east. Till that happens, the expenses are a success.

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Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by BlackTechnology: 11:35pm On Sep 10, 2014
lacasa:

El - rufai has never been part of gej's govt and left pdp b4 gej came in.


2ndly, what then stops him as C in C to arrest th northern muslims and end the bombing n killings.

Is he waiting for a sign from the heavens

Ordinary election he won, you guys went on rampage how much more if he arrests you guys semi gods

GEJ wants to avoid blood shed otherwise , they would be in prison.

2015 Will be the last straw that breaks the camel's back
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by brownlord: 12:04am On Sep 11, 2014
The truth, one Nigeria was a mistake, if we are to go by what you wrote here, only the northerner are fit to rule this country, see the way you cArefully glorified Buhari and year dua, even obj according to you dint do enough.

The people sabotaging our troops are the northern Muslims, how are we sure they don't even shut join BH to shut the Nigerian troops when in action?

Sometime ago, some BH members was arrested, some traditional rulers came requesting for their release! they where released to them and no news was about them.

When BH started, their Sunday Sunday church bombing, some of the people shouting Jonathan now kept quiet because BH target then where Christians

When the Nigeria troops where winning the war against BH some northern elders accuse the president and ihejirika of committing genocide and trying to avenge the death of igbos, who does that?

The country is presently at war, a time we ought to shut down our border, but a governor down north is about building a school in neighbouring country, do we need that now? A time we suppose to shut our door against those people so we can solve our problem, BH today are half Nigerians and half nigeriens, Chadians and neighbouring countries, will it not do us good if the north can help relocate those that are no Nigerians back, no they won't, because they think there is a tie between them, Islam, they even see themselves more of nigeririens than Nigerians, an emir once said he's people are in Cameroon, what does that mean?

We can only continue to deceive ourselves, but this union was never meant to be.

Why don't we just allow them to continue ruling us why we follow them as fools and second class citizen. Since independence has there been any government in this country without the north providing the president or vp? If there's any I like to know.

The Buhari, shagari are all alive and if they have the interest of the country as you said, they ought to proger solution to the menace, they don't have to be in power first, don't they attend the security meeting with the president? What's the outcome. Nonsense

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Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by TheClown: 12:30am On Sep 11, 2014
Jakpon: You are an 1diot

The duty of the army is to protect the countries territorial intergrity. Is the UN building and Police HQ not in situated the Nigerian territory?

Schnook !

Of what use is education to you abeg if you can't reason properly. In your dreams, the army is responsible for protecting the police hq and the UN building? You have a frozen brain.
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 2:58am On Sep 11, 2014
atlwireles:

You keep talking about 4 trillion, direct that question at the NSA. He is the man responsible for military procurement across board. How much do you think it takes to deployed men around the clock in NE Nigeria? How much is the army spending on petrol alone?. Review the armed forces budget, the numbers are out there in black and white.

Secondly the so called 4 trillion cuts across the entire national security platform. Police DSS, Civil defense, all the branches of our armed forces, deployed in almost 25 states across this country, carrying out one operation or the other, are all included in your N4 trillion numbers. These are monies they spent in the last 4.5years.

By the way boko haram is not governing the northwest/east yet, just like the Taliban in Afghanistan or ISIS in the middle east. Till that happens, the expense are a success.



"expense are a success"


Like seriously.


I wonder some times you know, is it that goodluck jonathan iis so akin to failure that even average nigerians now meeasure or regard failure as manageable success?.

Just imagine wat u wrote up there Mr. sad

It's shocking.

(* you people will never see beyond 'Goodluck Jonathan is our brother* )

It's like flogging a dead horse to wake up

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Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 3:08am On Sep 11, 2014
BlackTechnology:

Ordinary election he won, you guys went on rampage how much more if he arrests you guys semi gods

GEJ wants to avoid blood shed otherwise , they would be in prison.

2015 Will be the last straw that breaks the camel's back




Wen elections r manipulated, the disenfranchised react in an extreme manner sometimes. It's a reality!.

Wen Abiola's election was cancelled there were riots in lagos where our house n our family were targeted n almost killed by rioters in lagos simply cos we were northerners then. Only God saved us that period.

But that doesn't mean I should hold all the yorubas n say they are bad people or that they r killers.

Violence for whatever reason should be condemned and it is wrong, but it's an unintended consequence of elections esp in the third world.

And it has nothing to do with 'exposing boko haram' sponsors in govt. They r his siblings after all.


2015 will come n' go, but making empty threats is not the way to go sha.
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by atlwireles: 3:57am On Sep 11, 2014
lacasa:



"expense are a success"


Like seriously.


I wonder some times you know, is it that goodluck jonathan iis so akin to failure that even average nigerians now meeasure or regard failure as manageable success?.

Just imagine wat u wrote up there Mr. sad

It's shocking.

(* you people will never see beyond 'Goodluck Jonathan is our brother* )

It's like flogging a dead horse to wake up


What is Goodluck doing in my comment, where did I mention Goodluck? You have been asking about the N4 trillion defense budget and how it was spent. Before you point your fingers at anybody start with Dasuki. Also, boko haram is not governing any zone in your neck of woods yet. So, the N4 trillion is working just fine. The entire budget spent on the war against boko haram is a success. Shekau is not your sultan, abi? are we missing something here?

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Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by BlackTechnology: 5:53am On Sep 11, 2014
lacasa:



Wen elections r manipulated, the disenfranchised react in an extreme manner sometimes. It's a reality!.

Wen Abiola's election was cancelled there were riots in lagos where our house n our family were targeted n almost killed by rioters in lagos simply cos we were northerners then. Only God saved us that period.

But that doesn't mean I should hold all the yorubas n say they are bad people or that they r killers.

Violence for whatever reason should be condemned and it is wrong, but it's an unintended consequence of elections esp in the third world.

And it has nothing to do with 'exposing boko haram' sponsors in govt. They r his siblings after all.


2015 will come n' go, but making empty threats is not the way to go sha.





This will only occur if your elites respect themselves

But if you guys go berserk through a coup or BH escalation , mark my words , you guys will face angry Southerners and Middle Beltans urging GEJ to use brute force.
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 7:05am On Sep 11, 2014
atlwireles:


What is Goodluck doing in my comment, where did I mention Goodluck? You have been asking about the N4 trillion defense budget and how it was spent. Before you point your fingers at anybody start with Dasuki. Also, boko haram is not governing any zone in your neck of woods yet. So, the N4 trillion is working just fine. The entire budget spent on the war against boko haram is a success. Shekau is not your sultan, abi? are we missing something here?



It's obvious u r ddefending this govt's waste of 4 trillion naira which made the situation even worse.

If BH were bombing a location twice a month, and u now spent 4trillion naira to stop it but, instead of stopping the bombing from say 2 in a month, it now increases to 4 in a month, increases to 5, 6 and now even towns and Local govt areas r taken over, then how will u prove that 4 trillion has made the problem better

Hasn't it gotten worse After the 4 trillion has bn spent


So u see, there is no basis for argument with you based on the realities above
Re: Nigerian Military, Yesterday And Today - By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde by lacasa: 7:08am On Sep 11, 2014
BlackTechnology: [/color]




This will only occur if your elites respect themselves

But if you guys go berserk through a coup or BH escalation , mark my words , you guys will face angry Southerners and Middle Beltans urging GEJ to use brute force.



That's funny!

You r making threats through nairaland grin

Oga, nothing can happen, forget all this baseless threats you r making here

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