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The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by Emperor4God(m): 3:05am On Sep 11, 2014
Moslems is it true that your own quoran say's the Land of Israel belongs to Jews.

If it's true then why are moslems world wide fighting the jews?

If it's not true then what does your quoran say in the verses Surah 5:20-21


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Re: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by Empiree: 5:00am On Sep 11, 2014
FALSE FALSE FALSE.....NO CHEAP SHOT. Be comprehensive. LEARN!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY1lPBc-UMI
Re: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by bakandow11: 5:02am On Sep 11, 2014
emperor plz dnt always come out wit an open attacking questions, ask with respect whatever u need clearification on, may Allah grant us a better understanding of it words( Amin).
If you read well to the meaning of the verses of the holy quran you pin point you will see that Allah do not categorically say its belongs to this particular set but only told moses to enter and seek refuge after escaping from pharaoh. It was all about entering through the gate and live peacefully with them where some refuses that they wnt enter if those inside do not leave, what can you bring out from that? so please there was no clear cut statement about who owns the land and that was wat led to there 40years wandering round d desert. If Allah do not categorically state something then thats how Allah wants it to be. I pray Allah forgive me if av made any mistake and also pray for Allah to grant u a better understanding of it words as the quran will remain the way it was written for life.

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Re: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by INJESUSNAME: 9:43pm On Sep 12, 2014
where is the location of the jewish state then?
Re: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by LagosShia: 10:21pm On Sep 12, 2014
first of all, the Qur'an doesn't recognize Jews as a religious group. the Quran in other words doesn't recognie Judaism as a religion.

the Holy Qur'an reads:

"religion to Allah is Islam"..."and whoever seeks a religion other than Islam shall be amongst the losers".

secondly, lands belong to people and not to religions. it is people that choose what religion to follow. the land was given to the "children of israel" to worship Allah (swt). we read also in the Holy Quran: "Abraham was neither a Jew, Christian or Pagan, but was a monotheist, a Muslim". so the religion of the children of Israel was Islam (submission to the will of Allah). or from a neutral, non-Muslim view, they did not have an institutionalized religion back then. Judaism was a later invention to identify with the set of beliefs and practices that the people who lived in Judea lived by. like i have mentioned, lands belong to people, not to religions. imagine voodoo worshipers in haiti returning to Nigeria and asking Nigerians who identify themselves as Christians and Muslims today to leave because Nigeria was once a land for traditional religion!

thirdly, who says the Palestinians do not have israelite decent? there are Palestinians with Israelite lineage/decent/heritage. through conquests and invasions of Palestine, the people overwhelmingly convert to Islam and became an arabic speaking people through assimilation/arabicization, and through intermarriage. being that the arabian conquest was the last and left the most impact through the policy of embracing local populations (assimilation), the people of palestine ended up being arabic speaking.

and by the way, whatever arguments, religious, historical or ethnic, it makes no sense for a man thousands of miles away to come to your land and claim it because he believes God gave it to him, or that his ancestors once lived there, and therefore he would go on to snatch your house, bulldoze it, and destroy your life because he's powerful. if that is right and just, then the earth would be a living hell. many of our ancestors could have been from somewhere 2000 years ago. do we go about driving people and taking over their houses and destroying their lives? what sort of judeo-christian God is this? isn't this theft and terror that Zionists (be they Christians or Jews) promote in God's name? imagine if it were Muslims claiming a land because their ancestors lived there 2000 years ago. in fact, on that ground, Muslims can easily claim over Spain because it was once a Muslims land with a majority Muslim population.

furthermore, the history of Palestine did not even start with Abraham from whom both Israelis and Palestinians claim descent. before Abraham, there were people in Palestine. what happened to them? the israelites fought them and took over the land and committed genocide against them. read the old testament. and it is the blessing of tolerance and co-existence that have resulted into the palestinian people. they are descendants from many nations and religions, including those tribes that pre-existed Abraham. that land doesn't belong to one people or one religion. therefore nothing as an apartheid, racist Jewish state should be there. the people of palestine-Jews, Muslims and Christians, and both the hebrew and arabic speaking ones- should all live as one in a unified palestine for all.

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Re: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by mustang44: 6:08pm On Sep 13, 2014
LagosShia: first of all, the Qur'an doesn't recognize Jews as a religious group. the Quran in other words doesn't recognie Judaism as a religion.

the Holy Qur'an reads:

"religion to Allah is Islam"..."and whoever seeks a religion other than Islam shall be amongst the losers".

secondly, lands belong to people and not to religions. it is people that choose what religion to follow. the land was given to the "children of israel" to worship Allah (swt). we read also in the Holy Quran: "Abraham was neither a Jew, Christian or Pagan, but was a monotheist, a Muslim". so the religion of the children of Israel was Islam (submission to the will of Allah). or from a neutral, non-Muslim view, they did not have an institutionalized religion back then. Judaism was a later invention to identify with the set of beliefs and practices that the people who lived in Judea lived by. like i have mentioned, lands belong to people, not to religions. imagine voodoo worshipers in haiti returning to Nigeria and asking Nigerians who identify themselves as Christians and Muslims today to leave because Nigeria was once a land for traditional religion!

thirdly, who says the Palestinians do not have israelite decent? there are Palestinians with Israelite lineage/decent/heritage. through conquests and invasions of Palestine, the people overwhelmingly convert to Islam and became an arabic speaking people through assimilation/arabicization, and through intermarriage. being that the arabian conquest was the last and left the most impact through the policy of embracing local populations (assimilation), the people of palestine ended up being arabic speaking.

and by the way, whatever arguments, religious, historical or ethnic, it makes no sense for a man thousands of miles away to come to your land and claim it because he believes God gave it to him, or that his ancestors once lived there, and therefore he would go on to snatch your house, bulldoze it, and destroy your life because he's powerful. if that is right and just, then the earth would be a living hell. many of our ancestors could have been from somewhere 2000 years ago. do we go about driving people and taking over their houses and destroying their lives? what sort of judeo-christian God is this? isn't this theft and terror that Zionists (be they Christians or Jews) promote in God's name? imagine if it were Muslims claiming a land because their ancestors lived there 2000 years ago. in fact, on that ground, Muslims can easily claim over Spain because it was once a Muslims land with a majority Muslim population.

furthermore, the history of Palestine did not even start with Abraham from whom both Israelis and Palestinians claim descent. before Abraham, there were people in Palestine. what happened to them? the israelites fought them and took over the land and committed genocide against them. read the old testament. and it is the blessing of tolerance and co-existence that have resulted into the palestinian people. they are descendants from many nations and religions, including those tribes that pre-existed Abraham. that land doesn't belong to one people or one religion. therefore nothing as an apartheid, racist Jewish state should be there. the people of palestine-Jews, Muslims and Christians, and both the hebrew and arabic speaking ones- should all live as one in a unified palestine for all.
You and your fellow deluded muslims should keep hallucinating that Abraham or all the prophets in the bible were all muslims! Did Abraham call himself a muslim? Did the other prophets in the bible call themselves muslims? Muhammad was the founder of islam, so islam started with muhammad. Abraham and the other prophets lived and died for many years before muhammad was even conceived. How did they all suddenly become muslims? Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Bhudism are all monotheistic religions and they all predate islam. So do not even try to make it look as if monotheism started with islam. Why dint you blame muslims for taking pple's lands by conquest? Did the Spanish invite muslims to take over spain? NO! Spain was taken through islamic conquest.

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Re: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by Empiree: 6:56pm On Sep 13, 2014
Olodo!
mustang44: You and your fellow deluded muslims should keep hallucinating that Abraham or all the prophets in the bible were all muslims! Did Abraham call himself a muslim? Did the other prophets in the bible call themselves muslims? Muhammad was the founder of islam, so islam started with muhammad. Abraham and the other prophets lived and died for many years before muhammad was even conceived. How did they all suddenly become muslims? Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Bhudism are all monotheistic religions and they all predate islam. So do not even try to make it look as if monotheism started with islam. Why dint you blame muslims for taking pple's lands by conquest? Did the Spanish invite muslims to take over spain? NO! Spain was taken through islamic conquest.
Re: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by mustang44: 9:01pm On Sep 13, 2014
Empiree: Olodo!
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