obongproff:

No ma, it was only a typical example of 'I-no-go-gree! I-no-go-gree!' attitude.

So it's about attitude and not logic?

carefreewannabe:

So it's about attitude and not logic?

Yes na! Its d attitude, not d logic. I tried to explain dat one can be educated and fluent but not eloquent becos eloquence is for public speaking but u no gree gree na. U too much jare!

obongproff:

Yes na! Its d attitude, not d logic. I tried to explain dat one can be educated and fluent but not eloquent becos eloquence is for public speaking but u no gree gree na. U too much jare!

And I am saying that a well-educated individual is both, fluent and eloquent.

carefreewannabe:

And I am saying that a well-educated individual is both, fluent and eloquent.

Dat is exactly wot am saying. U no day gree. Wot do u mean by d term 'well-educated'?

How many of ur lecturers in school were eloquent?

Eloquence has a lot to do with public speaking and little to with being 'well-educated'. An SSCE holder can be eloquent while a Phd holder will not necessarily be eloquent except he or she learns d art. Eloquence is not taught in school. Its personal development.

I rest my case!

obongproff:

Dat is exactly wot am saying. U no day gree. Wot do u mean by d term 'well-educated'?

This is a question that I could write an essay on but let me keep it short.

To be well-educated means that

- a person can read and write accurately (in his/her country's official language)

- a person has basic knowledge of different disciplines such as, for instance, geography, politics, history, biology etc.

- a person has developed skills to expand this knowledge

- a person can, not only read, but also summarise a text

- a person can analyse a text

- a person can judge based on facts and in the light of life's complexities

- a person has developed skills to solve problems in a planned and systematic way

I could go on and on.

How many of ur lecturers in school were eloquent?

Redundant question because if one of them wasn't, then he/she lacked proper education.

loquence has a lot to do with public speaking and little to with being 'well-educated'. An SSCE holder can be eloquent while a Phd holder will not necessarily be eloquent except he or she learns d art. Eloquence is not taught in school. Its personal development.

Eloquence is necessary for public speaking. As you said, Jona is not eloquent, so he should not be a president. A president's job among others is to talk to his country people in public and to represent the country abroad.

Eloquence is taught in schools in countries where people like Patience have no chance to run the Ministry of Education.
But even if it wasn't, an educated person, whose forte is not speaking, would be smart enough to know that he/she is not qualified to do jobs that require public speaking.

I rest my case!

carefreewannabe:

This is a question that I could write an essay on but let me keep it short.

To be well-educated means that

- a person can read and write accurately (in his/her country's official language)

- a person has basic knowledge of different disciplines such as, for instance, geography, politics, history, biology etc.

- a person has developed skills to expand this knowledge

- a person can, not only read, but also summarise a text

- a person can analyse a text

- a person can judge based on facts and in the light of life's complexities

- a person has developed skills to solve problems in a planned and systematic way

I could go on and on.



Redundant question because if one of them wasn't, then he/she lacked proper education.



Eloquence is necessary for public speaking. As you said, Jona is not eloquent, so he should not be a president. A president's job among others is to talk to his country people in public and to represent the country abroad.

Eloquence is taught in schools in countries where people like Patience have no chance to run the Ministry of Education.
But even if it wasn't, an educated person, whose forte is not speaking, would be smart enough to know that he/she is not qualified to do jobs that require public speaking.

So u wd disqualify a good leader with a vision becos he lacks eloquence? Yar Adua lacked eloquence. Fashola lacks eloquence. Late Dora Akinluyi also lacked eloquence.

If eloquence is ur yardstick for measuring good leadership. If eloquence is ur yardstick for measuring being 'well-educated', no wahala, carry go. After all, Carefreewannabe is entitled to her opinion.

obongproff:

So u wd disqualify a good leader with a vision becos he lacks eloquence? Yar Adua lacked eloquence. Fashola lacks eloquence. Late Dora Akinluyi also lacked eloquence.

First of all, it's your opinion that the people mentioned were all good leaders. Secondly, it's your opinion that they all lacked eloquence.

If eloquence is ur yardstick for measuring good leadership. If eloquence is ur yardstick for measuring being 'well-educated', no wahala, carry go. After all, Carefreewannabe is entitled to her opinion.

I have mentioned plenty of points that make a person well-educated, proper command of the English language, or some other official language, is one of them.

And yes, someone who runs for a public office SHOULD be eloquent because it requires public speaking. It is one of the necessary qualities you must have in this job. Saying that a politician does not have to be eloquent is the same as saying that a doctor does not have to be able to stand the view of blood and cut off body parts.

For ya information, being a president or governor is 1% public speaking and 99% decision-making. For God's sake ur d president and not a newscaster, who was trained by stv/channels on public speaking.

Well, being a lecturer requires a higher level of eloquence but more importantly is the ability to make ur students undastand wot ur teaching.

Well, it was nice rubbing minds with you argumentatively...

U make me smile in an annoying way sha. U day try sha... I cut cap for you. Kay afo may ma adi song iwod abogo.

obongproff: For ya information, being a president or governor is 1% public speaking and 99% decision-making. For God's sake ur d president and not a newscaster, who was trained by stv/channels on public speaking.

In a well-functioning democracy the leader of a country talks to his/her citizens on a regular basis. Besides, in a well-functioning democracy politicians very often debate in parliament and these debates are public.

In developed countries, people who want to run a public office, attend courses in public speaking. They know that language is power.

Well, being a lecturer requires a higher level of eloquence but more importantly is the ability to make ur students undastand wot ur teaching.

How else does a lecturer want to make himself/herself understood if not with language?

Well, it was nice rubbing minds with you argumentatively...

U make me smile in an annoying way sha. U day try sha... I cut cap for you. Kay afo may ma adi song iwod abogo.

It was nice, yeah.

carefreewannabe:

She OBVIOUSLY is NOT.

Ure being mistaken, she is a graduate. Goodluck was her lecturer then.

carefreewannabe:

This is a question that I could write an essay on but let me keep it short.

To be well-educated means that

- a person can read and write accurately (in his/her country's official language)

- a person has basic knowledge of different disciplines such as, for instance, geography, politics, history, biology etc.

- a person has developed skills to expand this knowledge

- a person can, not only read, but also summarise a text

- a person can analyse a text

- a person can judge based on facts and in the light of life's complexities

- a person has developed skills to solve problems in a planned and systematic way

I could go on and on.



Redundant question because if one of them wasn't, then he/she lacked proper education.



Eloquence is necessary for public speaking. As you said, Jona is not eloquent, so he should not be a president. A president's job among others is to talk to his country people in public and to represent the country abroad.

Eloquence is taught in schools in countries where people like Patience have no chance to run the Ministry of Education.
But even if it wasn't, an educated person, whose forte is not speaking, would be smart enough to know that he/she is not qualified to do jobs that require public speaking.

Listen to what obongproff is saying, u can be fluent when speaking, dat doesn't mean ure well educated. And u can be educated, Dats not a guarantee that u'll speak fluently. Ask those ladies in school, dey can blow grammer but upstairs, they are empty.

Bigsteveg:
Listen to what obongproff is saying, u can be fluent when speaking, dat doesn't mean ure well educated.

I didn't say you cannot be fluent when you are not educated but if you are well-educated, you know how to speak properly.

And u can be educated, Dats not a guarantee that u'll speak fluently. Ask those ladies in school, dey can blow grammer but upstairs, they are empty.

Then you are not well-educated.

Bigsteveg:
Ure being mistaken, she is a graduate. Goodluck was her lecturer then.

She is a graduate from a failed education system then and a proof for how bad the education system is

Being educated is not the same as being well-educated.

^^ Haha!!

carefreewannabe:

I didn't say you cannot be fluent when you are not educated but if you are well-educated, you know how to speak properly.



Then you are not well-educated.

Even the way u argue shows u have nothing in ur brain, eva listens to what other are saying, Miss am always right.
But Pls, what's ur achievement in life, I may not be well educated in ur eyes but I bet if u can achieve what I have in d next 10 yrs of ur life.
I may not be well educated but I graduated from from a university of technology (electrical electronics engineering), I may not be well educated but have the privilege to work in a mobile telecommunication company also in an oil and gas company.
I may not be well educated, guess what I luv myself as I am.

PLS U THAT U ARE WELL EDUCATED LIKE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND, WHATS YOUR ACHEIVEMENT IN LIFE?

Bigsteveg:
Even the way u argue shows u have nothing in ur brain, eva listens to what other are saying, Miss am always right.
But Pls, what's ur achievement in life, I may not be well educated in ur eyes but I bet if u can achieve what I have in d next 10 yrs of ur life.
I may not be well educated but I graduated from from a university of technology (electrical electronics engineering), I may not be well educated but have the privilege to work in a mobile telecommunication company also in an oil and gas company.
I may not be well educated, guess what I luv myself as I am.

PLS U THAT U ARE WELL EDUCATED LIKE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND, WHATS YOUR ACHEIVEMENT IN LIFE?

Who was talking about you?

Bigsteveg:
Even the way u argue shows u have nothing in ur brain, eva listens to what other are saying, Miss am always right.
But Pls, what's ur achievement in life, I may not be well educated in ur eyes but I bet if u can achieve what I have in d next 10 yrs of ur life.
I may not be well educated but I graduated from from a university of technology (electrical electronics engineering), I may not be well educated but have the privilege to work in a mobile telecommunication company also in an oil and gas company.
I may not be well educated, guess what I luv myself as I am.

PLS U THAT U ARE WELL EDUCATED LIKE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND, WHATS YOUR ACHEIVEMENT IN LIFE?

Bros plz don't take it personal na. She just doesn't like or respect ebele or his wife. Plz just leave her alone, she is my little baby sister way no want hia word.

obongproff:

Bros plz don't take it personal na. She just doesn't like or respect ebele or his wife. Plz just leave her alone, she is my little baby sister way no want hia word.

obongproff:

Bros plz don't take it personal na. She just doesn't like or respect ebele or his wife. Plz just leave her alone, she is my little baby sister way no want hia word.

No p bro. It is well.

carefreewannabe:

In a poor country, people worship money. Developed countries know why education is important. This is why they are so well developed.

oh yeah, u want me to mention more than 50 peeps from the western world that didn't go to college yet it didn't stop them from impacting the world positively?

rawpadgin: oh yeah, u want me to mention more than 50 peeps from the western world that didn't go to college yet it didn't stop them from impacting the world positively?

We were talking about politician. Name them.

By the way, does education begin and end in school / college for you?

carefreewannabe:

We were talking about politician. Name them.

By the way, does education begin and end in school / college for you?

who talking about politician? go back & read the topic, please

carefreewannabe:

We were talking about politician. Name them.

By the way, does education begin and end in school / college for you?

who's talking about politician? go back & read the topic, please

rawpadgin: who's talking about politician? go back & read the topic, please

I was in my first comment. I kindly recommend that you go back.