Similarities between Pagan and Christian practices
The early Christians and Pagans shared many rituals
and practices. Authors Freke & Gandy appear to
assume that all of the copying was done by Christians
from Pagan sources. 3 However, some might have gone
in the opposite direction. During the 3rd century CE,
Mithraism and Christianity were the main competitors
for the religious affiliation the citizens of Romans.
Some Christian practices might have actually been
picked up by the Mithraites, rather than vice-versa.
Many early Christians celebrated Jesus' birthday on
JAN-6. Armenian Christians still do. In Alexandria, in
what is now Egypt, the birthday of their god-man,
Aion, was also celebrated on JAN-6.
Christians and most Pagans eventually celebrated the
birthday of their god-man on DEC-25.
According to an ancient Christian tradition, Christ died
on MAR-23 and resurrected on MAR-25. These dates
agree precisely with the death and resurrection of Attis.
Baptism was a principal ritual; it washed away a
person's sins. In some rituals, Baptism was performed
by sprinkling holy water on the believer; in others, the
person was totally immersed.
The most important sacrament was a ritual meal of
bread and wine which symbolize the god-man's body
and blood. His followers were accused of engaging in
cannibalism.
Early Christians initiated converts in March and April
by baptism. Mithraism initiated their new members at
this time as well.
Early Christians were naked when they were baptized.
After immersion, they then put on white clothing and a
crown. They carried a candle and walked in a
procession to a basilica. Followers of Mithra were also
baptized naked, put on white clothing and a crown,
and walked in a procession to the temple. However,
they carried torches.
At Pentecost, the followers of Jesus were recorded as
speaking in tongues. At Trophonius and Delos, the
Pagan priestesses also spoke in tongues: They
appeared to speak in such a way that each person
present heard her words in the observer's own
language.
An inscription to Mithras reads: " He who will not eat of
my body and drink of my blood, so that he will be made on
with me and I with him, the same shall not know salvation. "
1 In John 6:53-54, Jesus is said to have repeated this
theme: " ...Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and
drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my
flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will
raise him up at the last day." (KJV)
The Bible records that Jesus was crucified between two
thieves. One went to heaven and the other to hell. In the
Mithras mysteries, a common image showed Mithras
flanked by two torchbearers, one on either side. One
held a torch pointed upwards, the other downwards.
This symbolized ascent to heaven or descent to hell.
In Attis, a bull was slaughtered while on a perforated
platform. The animal's blood flowed down over an
initiate who stood in a pit under the platform. The
believer was then considered to have been " born again."
Poor people could only afford a sheep, and so were
literally washed in the blood of the lamb. This practice
was interpreted symbolically by Christians.
There were many additional points of similarity
between Mithraism and Christianity. 2 St. Augustine
even declared that the priests of Mithraism worshiped
the same God as he did:
Followers of both religions celebrated a ritual meal
involving bread. It was called a missa in Latin or mass
in English.
Both the Catholic church and Mithraism had a total of
seven sacraments.
Epiphany, JAN-6, was originally the festival in which
the followers of Mithra celebrated the visit of the Magi
to their newborn god-man. The Christian Church took it
over in the 9 th century.
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Reasons for the Pagan-Christian similarities:
There are many possible explanations of the
similarities between earlier Pagan and later Christian
beliefs, practices, and the lives of their god-men:
Christians copied Pagans: This is perhaps the most
obvious theory. Celsus was a Platonist and polemical
writer against Christianity who lived in the late 2nd
century CE According to Freke & Gandy, he
" complained that this recent religion [of Christianity} was
only a pale reflection" of Pagan belief . 3 According to the
Catholic Encyclopedia , Celsus pointed out that
Christianity copied the concepts of others. Christian
"... ideas concerning the origin of the universe, etc., are
common to all peoples and to the wise men of antiquity. " 4
Many modern-day writers and theologians have
accepted this theory. 3,5,6,7
Satan did it to deceive: Various early church writers,
such as Irenaeus (Bishop of Lyons; circa 120 CE to ?)
Justin Martyr (Christian apologist; 100 to 165),
Tertullian (Christian theologian; circa 160 to 220 +)
concluded that the Pagan/Christian similarities were a
Satanic attempt at " diabolical mimicry ." Satan was said
to have use " plagiarism by anticipation." That is, the
Devil made a pre-emptive strike against the gospel
stories centuries before Jesus was born. The reason was
to confuse the public into thinking that Jesus was
merely a copy of previous god-men. The goal was to
demolish the credibility of Christianity in the people's
eyes.
It was a type of prophecy: Other Christian writers have
concluded that the Mysteries were a type of pre-echo
of Jesus' life -- " somewhat like premonitions or
prophecies. " 3
Christianity accepted Pagan mythology as literal truth of
real events: Authors Freke & Gandy have concluded that
the original, main Christian movement was Gnostic
Christianity. They kept their inner mysteries secret,
revealing them only to those who have been initiated
into their branch of the Christian faith. 3 Some early
non-Gnostic, "literalist" Christians were unaware of
the inner mysteries of Gnosticism. They came to accept
the Gnostic outer, public, mysteries and their myth of a
god-man savior as an actual description of the
historical Jesus. The literalist Christians, being
ignorant of the inner mysteries, did not realize that the
god-man story was only a legend about a mythical
being. Decades later, literalist Christianity became the
dominant movement. They oppressed and exterminated
the Gnostics, their rituals, and their knowledge. A few
Gnostics survived to the present day. The movement is
currently experiencing rapid growth.
Coincidences: These points of similarity could have been
coincidental. There are many cases in comparative
religion where similar beliefs or practices are seen in
two unrelated religions. The pyramid structures in
Egypt are like those in Mexico. Yet most archaeologists
believe that there is no link between the countries; the
shapes were chosen independently. In ancient times,
the only way to create a really large structure was to
pile stones on top of each other in the form of a
pyramid. Similarly, almost all religions share an Ethic
of Reciprocity, like the Golden Rule. Still, the almost
200 precise matches between the events in the lives of
Jesus and Horus, and the 346 " striking analogies
between Christ and Chrishna " 6 would seem to make this
theory unlikely.
Reverse copying: A strong case can be made that
wholesale copying of beliefs and rituals by various
religions has occurred in the past. However, as noted
above, some Christian beliefs and practices may have
stolen by the followers of Mithra from their Christian
rivals rather than vice versa. This theory might have
some validity with respect to Mithraism. However, it
cannot explain the stories of the life of Horus which
proceeded Jesus' ministry in the first century CE by a
few thousand years.
Forgeries: Some have suggested that ancient evidence
of Pagan god-men living similar lives to Jesus prior to
the first century CE is a gigantic hoax. Anti-Christian
religious historians and archaeologists have simply
created fictional sets of religious beliefs, promoted
them as accurate representations of ancient religions,
and have perpetrated a massive hoax. This also is
unlikely. The original source material is still available
for academics to check. Someone by now would have
written a book exposing the hoax; it would have
become a best-seller.
Implications of the Pagan-Christian similarities
Conservative Christians accept the inerrancy and
inspiration of the Bible. The writings of the authors of
the gospels are without error. The gospels describe the
life of Jesus with precision. Thus ancient Pagan
practices in the Middle East and around the
Mediterranean are of no concern to the believer. They
cannot impact on the credibility of the Bible which is
God's word.
To some liberal Christians, the Pagan-Christian parallels
are convincing proof that much of the magical
components of the gospels are of Pagan origin: the
virgin birth , bringing dead people back to life, the
many miraculous healings, exorcisms, transfiguration,
crucifixion, resurrection , ascension, Jesus' anticipated
return to judge humanity, etc. These stories were
derived from Pagan material that had been circulating
for centuries when Jesus was born. Except for the
occasional coincidence, that material cannot refer to
real events in Jesus' life. Many key Christian beliefs
have to be questioned and perhaps abandoned.
One comforting factor may be a recognition that some
of the basic teachings of Christianity and some of the
traditionally accepted events of Jesus' life may actually
be over 4,500 years old, grounded in the pre-history of
humanity. Another is that, when we strip away the
miraculous and supernatural legends in the gospels
which came from Pagan sources, we are left with the
natural. What remains is a story of an itinerant Jewish
teacher who taught through parables and by example.
It is the core teachings of Jesus which emerge from the
gospels -- undiluted by Pagan material.

My guy, Mithraism didn't copy anything from Christianity. Rather it was Christianity that copied from Mithraism.

In the early days of Christianity, the Romans saw Christianity as being meant for the low-class people and peasants. While Mithraism was for well-to-do people in the government, in the military, in trade and so on. So there is no way Mithraism copied anything from Christianity which they so despised.

Secondly, Mithraism originated some years before Christianity originated. And moreover, Saint Eusebius of Caeserea indirectly acknowledged the fact that Christianity might have copied so many practices from paganism, Mithraism most especially.

And in addition, those things you call Jesus' teachings were not originally his teachings. He didn't teach any new thing. He was just propounding the teachings and beliefs of a group of elite Jews called the Essenes. They are just another religious group (just like the Sadduccees) with some differences in belief than other groups. There were so many such religious leanings and inclinations during that period. The Sadduccees, the Essenes, and so on. All were Jews but each group believed in slightly different doctrines from the others. Just like we have Christian denominations today.

So if Jesus Christ truly existed, none of his teachings were originally his. He learnt all of his teachings from the Essenes and maybe made one or two modifications.

haffaze777.all what you copy and paste are the work of people who are enemy of christianity,they mix it with seducing doctrind, but here is a well trusted hadith ,muslims scholar trust it.this hadith prove it that the way in which muslims worship allah that is how pagan worship there gods.


MUHAMMAD AS A PROPHET Muhammad’s father’s name was AbduAllah (Abdullai) and his mother’s
name was Aminah. His grandfather’s name was Muttalib. They were
idol worshipers. A careful study of islam brought by Muhammad
reveals that it is a continuation of his father’s idol worship even
though they said islam is against any form of idol worship. Islam is not
idol worship on the pages of quran but it is in truth and practice. Let us examine islamic mode of worship: 1. TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is an Islamic ritual associated
with the pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located
at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically between the
two mounts, seven times. This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic
practice. Muhammad retained it for Islam, sanctioning it with yet
another Qur'anic revelations. Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, AS IT WAS
THE CEREMONIES OF THE DAYS OF PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE
TILL Allah REVEALED 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al- Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him
who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to
perform Tawaf between them.' " (Quran 2.158)
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710)
You can see from the above hadith that what was being practiced by
idol worshipers before islam was incorporated into it. I mean islam continues with the ways of idol worshipers. 2. REQUIREMENT OF IHRAM Ihram is a state a Muslim enters into for his pilgrimage to Mecca. It
involves a series of procedures like ritual washing, wearing 'Ihram
garments', etc. Ihram was originally a pagan requirement for
worshipping idols during pre-Islamic times. Muhammad retained this
practice for Islam. Muslims assume Ihram to perform the Hajj or Umrah.
Narrated 'Urwa: I asked 'Aisha : ...But in fact, this divine inspiration was revealed concerning the Ansar who used to assume “Ihram” for
worshipping an idol called “Manat” which they used to worship at a
place called Al-Mushallal before they embraced Islam, and whoever assumed Ihram (for the idol), would consider it not right to perform
Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:706)
They continued their pagan ways of worship even when they
embraced islam. 3. PRAYING 5 TIMES TOWARDS MECCA Pagans prior to Islam would pray five times per day towards Mecca.
Muhammad retained for Islam, this pre-Islamic practice, sanctioning it
with a story of a night trip to heaven on a mythical beast called al-
Buraq. In heaven, the Hadith tells us that Allah demanded 50 prayers
per day per Muslim. Upon advice from Moses, Muhammed bargains
with Allah and successfully reduces it to five prayers per day. Zoroastrians are also expected to recite their (kusti) prayers at least
five times a day.

malvisguy212:
haffaze777.all what you copy and paste are the work of people who are enemy of christianity,they mix it with seducing doctrind, but here is a well trusted hadith ,muslims scholar trust it.this hadith prove it that the way in which muslims worship allah that is how pagan worship there gods.


MUHAMMAD AS A PROPHET Muhammad’s father’s name was AbduAllah (Abdullai) and his mother’s
name was Aminah. His grandfather’s name was Muttalib. They were
idol worshipers. A careful study of islam brought by Muhammad
reveals that it is a continuation of his father’s idol worship even
though they said islam is against any form of idol worship. Islam is not
idol worship on the pages of quran but it is in truth and practice. Let us examine islamic mode of worship: 1. TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is an Islamic ritual associated
with the pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located
at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically between the
two mounts, seven times. This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic
practice. Muhammad retained it for Islam, sanctioning it with yet
another Qur'anic revelations. Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, AS IT WAS
THE CEREMONIES OF THE DAYS OF PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE
TILL Allah REVEALED 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al- Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him
who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to
perform Tawaf between them.' " (Quran 2.158)
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710)
You can see from the above hadith that what was being practiced by
idol worshipers before islam was incorporated into it. I mean islam continues with the ways of idol worshipers. 2. REQUIREMENT OF IHRAM Ihram is a state a Muslim enters into for his pilgrimage to Mecca. It
involves a series of procedures like ritual washing, wearing 'Ihram
garments', etc. Ihram was originally a pagan requirement for
worshipping idols during pre-Islamic times. Muhammad retained this
practice for Islam. Muslims assume Ihram to perform the Hajj or Umrah.
Narrated 'Urwa: I asked 'Aisha : ...But in fact, this divine inspiration was revealed concerning the Ansar who used to assume “Ihram” for
worshipping an idol called “Manat” which they used to worship at a
place called Al-Mushallal before they embraced Islam, and whoever assumed Ihram (for the idol), would consider it not right to perform
Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:706)
They continued their pagan ways of worship even when they
embraced islam. 3. PRAYING 5 TIMES TOWARDS MECCA Pagans prior to Islam would pray five times per day towards Mecca.
Muhammad retained for Islam, this pre-Islamic practice, sanctioning it
with a story of a night trip to heaven on a mythical beast called al-
Buraq. In heaven, the Hadith tells us that Allah demanded 50 prayers
per day per Muslim. Upon advice from Moses, Muhammed bargains
with Allah and successfully reduces it to five prayers per day. Zoroastrians are also expected to recite their (kusti) prayers at least
five times a day.

imi plac asta.it means I like dat(ur post about how Islam is pagan) but dats not a topic here,u can create a trend for dat if u want us to deliberate on dat.back to d topic now and leave Islam out of it

I'll just leave this here.....

Original or copy, you decide.

Who was the Son of the highest God, and the biggest healer in Antiquity? He healed the sick and even raised the dead. Hear and behold: former paralysed walked again, the blind could miraculously see again, and the deaf could listen and the mute speak after the Master's gentle touch! But he did not only heal the body, he also healed the soul. They called him Saviour and Redeemer, and he healed both rich and poor, men and women, young and old, slaves and free men, friends and enemies. In one occasion a paralysed man was brough to him in his bed, and took his bed and left walking after the Saviour had touched him. What was this Saviour's name?

… Asklepios.

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Who was born by a mortal virgin mother and had a divine Father, and was known as the "Saviour of the world"? Before he was born his parents wandered to a bigger town, and prophets had foretold his birth and that he would be a king. This instigated a search for the infant Saviour by a leading figure who wanted to kill him. After growing up the Son of God was shown all the kingdoms of the world from a high mountain. He also walked on water and when he met his end his mother and his favorite disciple stood by him. He then tells his mother: "Do not cry, I'm going to heaven". When he dies he utter: "It is finished" and the earth trembles and darkness cover the land. Then he ascended to heaven, and his greatest achievement was to conquer death.

His name was of course...Hercules.

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We all of course know the Redeemer who was no figure of pagan Greek polytheism. He was the true Saviour who wanted to help and save the sinful humans, by sacrificing himself. But he was willing to do this, out of love, pity and compassion for the humans.

His name:...Prometheus.

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Now, who was the real Son of God, born by a mortal virgin mother, and often presented as the venerated newborn infant, or depicted riding a donkey? He healed the sick and did numerous wonders, among those making fine wine from plain water. He was killed but resurrected from the dead and became immortal. The followers of this God often ate a holy meal in a kind of sacramental union with the deity to achieve immortality after their death. One of this god's finest achievements was his death, his sacrifice, which delivers the whole human kind.

The God was the very popular Dionysos.

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Who is the "Light of the World", the One, the God who defeated death? Born of a virgin mother, considered the first true King by the people. Who rose from the grave and ascended to heaven. He defeated death, and must be considered the single true God.

Of course the Egyptian Osiris!

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Now, the real God often called the "Light of the world", "The good shepherd", "The lamb" and is "…the way, the truth, and the life". Identified with a cross. Who could that be?

Horus, (the son of Osiris).

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The original "Light of the world" was the mediator between God and man and was born on the 25th of December. Local shepherds witnessed his birth and gave him gifts. He had 12 disciples, and when his work was done on earth he gathered together to a last supper, and then ascended to heaven. At doomsday he will return to pass judgment on both the living and the dead. The righteous will go to heaven and the sinful will be killed in a giant fire. Sunday is his holy day, and this religion gave us the seven days of the week. His followers called each other "brothers" and their leaders "fathers". They practiced baptism and established a sacred meal ritual, where flesh and blood was symbolically consumed by initiates. Above earth was heaven, and below the dark hell with demons and the sinners.

The 'Light of the World' is of course the sungod Mithra.

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Wise men were led to his birth by a star, and his conception was miraculous. After his birth the ruler in the area wanted him dead and started a hunt for the child. But his parents were warned by a heavenly messenger who told them to escape over the river with the holy child. Here, he was met by shepherds. The boy grew up and did many great deeds, and was the mediator between God and man.

His name: Krishna.

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The problem for Jesus is that all these deities are much older than him. You don't have to be very bright to see where the authors of the Gospels got their "divine inspiration" when they created the Jewish version of the popular God-Man/ World-Saviour of Antiquity.


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malvisguy212:
haffaze777.all what you copy and paste are the work of people who are enemy of christianity,they mix it with seducing doctrind, but here is a well trusted hadith ,muslims scholar trust it.this hadith prove it that the way in which muslims worship allah that is how pagan worship there gods.


MUHAMMAD AS A PROPHET Muhammad’s father’s name was AbduAllah (Abdullai) and his mother’s
name was Aminah. His grandfather’s name was Muttalib. They were
idol worshipers. A careful study of islam brought by Muhammad
reveals that it is a continuation of his father’s idol worship even
though they said islam is against any form of idol worship. Islam is not
idol worship on the pages of quran but it is in truth and practice. Let us examine islamic mode of worship: 1. TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is an Islamic ritual associated
with the pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located
at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically between the
two mounts, seven times. This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic
practice. Muhammad retained it for Islam, sanctioning it with yet
another Qur'anic revelations. Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, AS IT WAS
THE CEREMONIES OF THE DAYS OF PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE
TILL Allah REVEALED 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al- Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him
who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to
perform Tawaf between them.' " (Quran 2.158)
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710)
You can see from the above hadith that what was being practiced by
idol worshipers before islam was incorporated into it. I mean islam continues with the ways of idol worshipers. 2. REQUIREMENT OF IHRAM Ihram is a state a Muslim enters into for his pilgrimage to Mecca. It
involves a series of procedures like ritual washing, wearing 'Ihram
garments', etc. Ihram was originally a pagan requirement for
worshipping idols during pre-Islamic times. Muhammad retained this
practice for Islam. Muslims assume Ihram to perform the Hajj or Umrah.
Narrated 'Urwa: I asked 'Aisha : ...But in fact, this divine inspiration was revealed concerning the Ansar who used to assume “Ihram” for
worshipping an idol called “Manat” which they used to worship at a
place called Al-Mushallal before they embraced Islam, and whoever assumed Ihram (for the idol), would consider it not right to perform
Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:706)
They continued their pagan ways of worship even when they
embraced islam. 3. PRAYING 5 TIMES TOWARDS MECCA Pagans prior to Islam would pray five times per day towards Mecca.
Muhammad retained for Islam, this pre-Islamic practice, sanctioning it
with a story of a night trip to heaven on a mythical beast called al-
Buraq. In heaven, the Hadith tells us that Allah demanded 50 prayers
per day per Muslim. Upon advice from Moses, Muhammed bargains
with Allah and successfully reduces it to five prayers per day. Zoroastrians are also expected to recite their (kusti) prayers at least
five times a day.

If there is a religion that is worshipping idols, it is Christianity. Not Islam. If you look closely, Islam and Judaism worship One God not a Trinity. Trinity was not originally part of the doctrine of Christians, it was borrowed from many other religions, most notably, Egyptian paganism that had the Trinity of Horus, Isis and Osiris.

And so many other Islamic celebrations have their roots in Judaism. Unlike Christianity. Use of images in worship, drinking the blood and eating the flesh of God in order to gain eternal life, venerating the virgin birth of God, these practices did not start with Christianity. They were borrowed by Christianity. And there are so many others. It's so appalling that Christians are blind to these things.

I'm pretty sure the Mithras myth is based on the Horus myth.

haffaze777:

























imi plac asta.it means I like dat(ur post about how Islam is pagan) but dats not a topic here,u can create a trend for dat if u want us to deliberate on dat.back to d topic now and leave Islam out of it

i reapeat,all what you wrote are lies mix with misinterpreteing the word of God,there is no verse in the bible that teaches christian worship the way pagan worship there god.but in the hadith.it is so clear for us to see.

nobilis:


If there is a religion that is worshipping idols, it is Christianity. Not Islam. If you look closely, Islam and Judaism worship One God not a Trinity. Trinity was not originally part of the doctrine of Christians, it was borrowed from many other religions, most notably, Egyptian paganism that had the Trinity of Horus, Isis and Osiris.

And so many other Islamic celebrations have their roots in Judaism. Unlike Christianity. Use of images in worship, drinking the blood and eating the flesh of God in order to gain eternal life, venerating the virgin birth of God, these practices did not start with Christianity. They were borrowed by Christianity. And there are so many others. It's so appalling that Christians are blind to these things.

why this ignnorenc? Can you show me a verse in the bible that say christians worship God the way pagan do? But it was soo clear in the hadith that a blind man can notice it.

malvisguy212:
why this [size=16pt]ignnorenc[/size]? Can you show me a verse in the bible that say christians worship God the way pagan do? But it was soo clear in the hadith that a blind man can notice it.

My oga, please what I will not tolerate from you is insults.
In that post that you quoted, I gave you instances of Christian practices that were copied from paganism. They're there. So I wonder how you will quote that post and still not understand what it is talking about.

Maybe I'm not the ignorant one here since obviously you didn't care to use the correct spelling for ignorance.

nobilis:


My oga, please what I will not tolerate from you is insults.
In that post that you quoted, I gave you instances of Christian practices that were copied from paganism. They're there. So I wonder how you will quote that post and still not understand what it is talking about.

Maybe I'm not the ignorant one here since obviously you didn't care to use the correct spelling for ignorance.

calling someone ignorence is a insult? Ok.accept my apology.

The hadith i post to was so clear every reader will understand.but what the op writte are misinterpretation of the word of God and some logic apply,but the hadith i post went straight to the point.

malvisguy212:
calling someone ignorence is a insult? Ok.accept my apology.

The hadith i post to was so clear every reader will understand.but what the op writte are misinterpretation of the word of God and some logic apply,but the hadith i post went straight to the point.

.





chai dis guy dey lie sha