1.    If there is no God, “the big questions” remain unanswered, so how do we answer the following questions: Why is there something rather than nothing?  This question was asked by Aristotle and Leibniz alike – albeit with differing answers.  But it is an historic concern.  Why is there conscious, intelligent life on this planet, and is there any meaning to this life?  If there is meaning, what kind of meaning and how is it found?  Does human history lead anywhere, or is it all in vain since death is merely the end?  How do you come to understand good and evil, right and wrong without a transcendent signifier?  If these concepts are merely social constructions, or human opinions, whose opinion does one trust in determining what is good or bad, right or wrong?  If you are content within atheism, what circumstances would serve to make you open to other answers?

Well I won't say I'm atheist but I'all apply logic. First its possible there was always something never nothing 2 good would be whatever is positive to society not what a god decided because a god could make any action good just arbitrarily 3 our purpose is to live and our destiny is what we strive to make it

gise:
Well I won't say I'm atheist but I'all apply logic. First its possible there was always something never nothing 2 good would be whatever is positive to society not what a god decided because a god could make any action good just arbitrarily 3 our purpose is to live and our destiny is what we strive to make it

NOTE THAT GOD DOES NOT MAKE DECISION FOR MAN

The answer to your question is that the flying spaghetti monster created everything within 4 days about 6000 years ago. Fsm is the true God But very few know this,narrow is the way to heaven. To be forewarned is to be forearmed

The answer to your question is that the flying spaghetti monster created everything within 4 days about 6000 years ago. Fsm is the true God But very few know this,narrow is the way to heaven. To be forewarned is to be forearmed

It is amazing how religious people who claim to have found answers to life's big questions just repose the answers to those questions in a Deity and then they mystify that Deity and tell themselves that trying to understand that Deity is useless as he is a mysterious personality who shouldn't be understood but just believed.

OP, you're trying to understand life's big questions. Now before I answer you, let me ask you some big questions about God. When you answer them, I can then answer your questions.

1. How did God come to be? How did he come about? Did He come from nothingness or did he "evolve/mutate"(for lack of a better word) from something? If you say he evolved from something else, it means he isn't the Beginning like the bible said. If you say he came from nothingness, how could that have been possible since nothingness means absence of anything. It will just be like saying that light came from darkness. But we all know that it is wrong to think that way. Light cannot come from darkness. But darkness can be derived from light in the sense that darkness comes when light is removed. (White light can be broken into different colours by a glass prism. But unifying all those colours doesn't give white light again, it rather gives blackness/darkness). But light doesn't come when darkness is removed.

2. You were asking about understanding good and evil. If God is essentially good and everything that he created is good (because since he is essentially good, there will be no room for evil in him), where then did evil come from? There are two options. It's either evil came from God himself or it came from a source outside God. But since you have already said that God created the universe (universe here means all of God's creation) and watches over it, it means that the universe is at one with God. There is no way the universe can exist outside God since God himself is the life of the universe. Christians will have us believe that all of existence depends on God. Meaning that outside God, nothing exists. Since we've established that fact, it means that if u say God is not the source of evil, it also means that evil could not have arisen from any part of the universe because the universe is in God. So if you say evil didn't come from God, it means it came from nothingness and how could that have been since nothingness is the absence of any existence.

nobilis:
It is amazing how religious people who claim to have found answers to life's big questions just repose the answers to those questions in a Deity and then they mystify that Deity and tell themselves that trying to understand that Deity is useless as he is a mysterious personality who shouldn't be understood but just believed.

OP, you're trying to understand life's big questions. Now before I answer you, let me ask you some big questions about God. When you answer them, I can then answer your questions.

1. How did God come to be? How did he come about? Did He come from nothingness or did he "evolve/mutate"(for lack of a better word) from something? If you say he evolved from something else, it means he isn't the Beginning like the bible said. If you say he came from nothingness, how could that have been possible since nothingness means absence of anything. It will just be like saying that light came from darkness. But we all know that it is wrong to think that way. Light cannot come from darkness. But darkness can be derived from light in the sense that darkness comes when light is removed. (White light can be broken into different colours by a glass prism. But unifying all those colours doesn't give white light again, it rather gives blackness/darkness). But light doesn't come when darkness is removed.

2. You were asking about understanding good and evil. If God is essentially good and everything that he created is good (because since he is essentially good, there will be no room for evil in him), where then did evil come from? There are two options. It's either evil came from God himself or it came from a source outside God. But since you have already said that God created the universe (universe here means all of God's creation) and watches over it, it means that the universe is at one with God. There is no way the universe can exist outside God since God himself is the life of the universe. Christians will have us believe that all of existence depends on God. Meaning that outside God, nothing exists. Since we've established that fact, it means that if u say God is not the source of evil, it also means that evil could not have arisen from any part of the universe because the universe is in God. So if you say evil didn't come from God, it means it came from nothingness and how could that have been since nothingness is the absence of any existence.

I think I will go with the flying spaghetti monster on this issue

pesty100:
I think I will go with the flying spaghetti monster on this issue

Ramen.

Smallville10:
1.    If there is no God, “the big questions” remain unanswered, so how do we answer the following questions: Why is there something rather than nothing?  This question was asked by Aristotle and Leibniz alike – albeit with differing answers.  But it is an historic concern.  Why is there conscious, intelligent life on this planet, and is there any meaning to this life?  If there is meaning, what kind of meaning and how is it found?  Does human history lead anywhere, or is it all in vain since death is merely the end?  How do you come to understand good and evil, right and wrong without a transcendent signifier?  If these concepts are merely social constructions, or human opinions, whose opinion does one trust in determining what is good or bad, right or wrong?  If you are content within atheism, what circumstances would serve to make you open to other answers?

To answer these questions one would have to know a whole lot about how the universe works, and well we DON'T heck even a great percentage of the Earths oceans haven't been explored yet, but we're so arrogant in our knowledge that we feel we can dictate how things are suppose to be...there can't be something from nothing...intelligent life cannot be a fluke, but what really do we know?

P.S
Here's my analogy, to me we earthlings are like a bunch of primitives in a little village without exposure to technology, then someday an airplane crashes into our village and we begin to ask questions about ourselves, of course 99% of the villagers will say the airplane came from the gods, I'm in that 1% that says "I don't know, sure it's all amazing but I don't know but this God explanation..is bullshit!".

Dolemite:


To answer these questions one would have to know a whole lot about how the universe works, and well we DON'T heck even a great percentage of the Earths oceans haven't been explored yet, but we're so arrogant in our knowledge that we feel we can dictate how things are suppose to be...there can't be something from nothing...intelligent life cannot be a fluke, but what really do we know?

P.S
Here's my analogy, to me we earthlings are like a bunch of primitives in a little village without exposure to technology, then someday an airplane crashes into our village and we begin to ask questions about ourselves, of course 99% of the villagers will say the airplane came from the gods, I'm in that 1% that says "I don't know, sure it's all amazing but I don't know but this God explanation..is bullshit!".

I KNOW ABOUT THE UNIVERSE I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU

NOBILIS LETS TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS ONE AT A TIME

Smallville10:
NOBILIS LETS TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS ONE AT A TIME

GOD HAS AN ORIGIN BUT ITS NOT KNOW TO MAN CUS HE NEVER TOLD ANYONE

Smallville10:
GOD HAS AN ORIGIN BUT ITS NOT KNOW TO MAN CUS HE NEVER TOLD ANYONE

Lol... How did you come about this 'knowledge' of yours? I'm curious.

How did you know that god has an origin?

qstar:



Lol... How did you come about this 'knowledge' of yours? I'm curious.

How did you know that god has an origin?

DO YOU HAVE ANY THING BETTER

Smallville10:
GOD HAS AN ORIGIN BUT ITS NOT KNOW TO MAN CUS HE NEVER TOLD ANYONE

Since God has an origin that isn't known to man because he never told anyone, how did you get to know that God has an origin?

Is it that you're not a man and God told you personally that He has an origin or what?

nobilis:


Since God has an origin that isn't known to man because he never told anyone, how did you get to know that God has an origin?

Is it that you're not a man and God told you personally that He has an origin or what?

LET ME prove something to you. God said i am the 'beginning' and the 'end'. That beginning no one knows and also the end. You should not be interested in God's beginning but rather your end. He is the beginning of time and the end of it. He is an immortal you are mortal, he's unlimited with power and knowledge, you are limited. There are things you cant understand until you stop beefing GOD

Smallville10:
I KNOW ABOUT THE UNIVERSE I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU

And that's the difference between believers and atheists, while you beat your chest claiming to know everything without a single shred of proof, we atheists are saying we don't know anything and are still discovering but until proof comes we'll keep shrugging and saying we don't know.

Smallville10:
LET ME prove something to you. God said i am the 'beginning' and the 'end'. That beginning no one knows and also the end. You should not be interested in God's beginning but rather your end. He is the beginning of time and the end of it. He is an immortal you are mortal, he's unlimited with power and knowledge, you are limited. There are things you cant understand until you stop beefing GOD

Lmao........ When did God say he is the beginning and the end? And to who did he say this?

Smallville10:
GOD HAS AN ORIGIN BUT ITS NOT KNOW TO MAN CUS HE NEVER TOLD ANYONE

Epic contradiction. It is not known to man,So how u take know? U be alien who told u God has an origin? The Bible? How did the Bible know?

When you start questioning things you start realizing you have been duped.

Dapo777:


Epic contradiction. It is not known to man,So how u take know? U be alien who told u God has an origin? The Bible? How did the Bible know?

When you start questioning things you start realizing you have been duped.

Epic!!!

nobilis:
It is amazing how religious people who claim to have found answers to life's big questions just repose the answers to those questions in a Deity and then they mystify that Deity and tell themselves that trying to understand that Deity is useless as he is a mysterious personality who shouldn't be understood but just believed.

OP, you're trying to understand life's big questions. Now before I answer you, let me ask you some big questions about God. When you answer them, I can then answer your questions.

1. How did God come to be? How did he come about? Did He come from nothingness or did he "evolve/mutate"(for lack of a better word) from something? If you say he evolved from something else, it means he isn't the Beginning like the bible said. If you say he came from nothingness, how could that have been possible since nothingness means absence of anything. It will just be like saying that light came from darkness. But we all know that it is wrong to think that way. Light cannot come from darkness. But darkness can be derived from light in the sense that darkness comes when light is removed. (White light can be broken into different colours by a glass prism. But unifying all those colours doesn't give white light again, it rather gives blackness/darkness). But light doesn't come when darkness is removed.

2. You were asking about understanding good and evil. If God is essentially good and everything that he created is good (because since he is essentially good, there will be no room for evil in him), where then did evil come from? There are two options. It's either evil came from God himself or it came from a source outside God. But since you have already said that God created the universe (universe here means all of God's creation) and watches over it, it means that the universe is at one with God. There is no way the universe can exist outside God since God himself is the life of the universe. Christians will have us believe that all of existence depends on God. Meaning that outside God, nothing exists. Since we've established that fact, it means that if u say God is not the source of evil, it also means that evil could not have arisen from any part of the universe because the universe is in God. So if you say evil didn't come from God, it means it came from nothingness and how could that have been since nothingness is the absence of any existence.

answer the question instead of turning it on the asker!

asalimpo:


answer the question instead of turning it on the asker!

If I tell u that the flying spaghetti monster created the universe, is it my job to prove it,or your job to prove it?

So you see,It's he who make a claim that carries the burden of proving such claims not the person that disagrees.

Same applies to you,If u tell me God created the universe, u carry the burden of proving it to me that God created the universe, It's not the atheist job to prove otherwise.

Cappish?

Smallville10:
LET ME prove something to you. God said i am the 'beginning' and the 'end'. That beginning no one knows and also the end. You should not be interested in God's beginning but rather your end. He is the beginning of time and the end of it. He is an immortal you are mortal, he's unlimited with power and knowledge, you are limited. There are things you cant understand until you stop beefing GOD

You have just returned and proven what I said in my post earlier. You claim to want to know the meaning of life but you just repose that meaning in a Deity and then mystify that Deity by telling yourself that that Deity should not be understood but just believed. Meaning that life also shouldn't be understood but just believed.

So what exactly do you want to achieve by opening this thread in the first place?

asalimpo:


answer the question instead of turning it on the asker!

Even Jesus Christ, your lord and master, turned the questions of the pharisees and even of his disciples on the askers. so why are you acting like asking the questions I asked is outrageous?

Smallville10:
1.    If there is no God, “the big questions” remain unanswered, so how do we answer the following questions: Why is there something rather than nothing?  This question was asked by Aristotle and Leibniz alike – albeit with differing answers.  But it is an historic concern.  Why is there conscious, intelligent life on this planet, and is there any meaning to this life?  If there is meaning, what kind of meaning and how is it found?  Does human history lead anywhere, or is it all in vain since death is merely the end?  How do you come to understand good and evil, right and wrong without a transcendent signifier?  If these concepts are merely social constructions, or human opinions, whose opinion does one trust in determining what is good or bad, right or wrong?  If you are content within atheism, what circumstances would serve to make you open to other answers?

because one call himself or herself an atheist/agnostic doesn't mean he/she has all the answers, the fact is we are all just as confused as you are

Dapo777:

Lmao........ When did God say he is the beginning and the end? And to who did he say this?

YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THE BIBLE AND YOU CAN ARGUE WITH ME. AND ALSO HE HAS GIVEN ME THAT ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND HIM

Smallville10:
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THE BIBLE AND YOU CAN ARGUE WITH ME. AND ALSO HE HAS GIVEN ME THAT ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND HIM

You haven't answered the question.

Dapo777:


Epic contradiction. It is not known to man,So how u take know? U be alien who told u God has an origin? The Bible? How did the Bible know?

When you start questioning things you start realizing you have been duped.

U MOST BE REALLY FOOLISH FOR ASK THIS. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ABOUT MY CHRISTANITY YET U ASK QUESTION WITH NO SENSE. LOOK AT YOUR STUPID QUESTION

nobilis:


you have just returned and proven what I said in my post earlier. You claim to want to the meaning of life but you just repose that meaning in a Deity and then mystify that Deity by telling yourself that that Deity should not be understood but just believed. Meaning that life also shouldn't be understood but just believed.

So what exactly do you want to achieve by opening this thread in the first place?

NO ONE HAS SEEN HIM YET WE KNOW HE EXISTS BECAUSE WE HEAR FROM HIM

Dapo777:


You haven't answered the question.

THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION BUT NEVER THE LESS HE SAID SO IN HIS WORD

pesty100:
because one call himself or herself an atheist/agnostic doesn't mean he/she has all the answers, the fact is we are all just as confused as you are

i know you re confused but am not

Smallville10:
NO ONE HAS SEEN HIM YET WE KNOW HE EXISTS BECAUSE WE HEAR FROM HIM

I can't believe I'm engaging in this hide and seek banter with you.
Go and meet your other Christian friends and ask them to educate you better on how to converse with and present your points to unbelievers.
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but from your words, you're just a baby christian. You're just repeating words you learned by rote (just like we were taught catechism in those days).