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Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 7:35am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
true via common sense but I believe God must have assisted him some how bcus he can neva give u a task u cannot accomplish
you believe that cause you are a Christian.
if u wanna talk to an atheist or non Christian about it,it wont sound logical.
I feel some of the stories in the bible were exaggerated
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by astronautog(m): 7:56am On Nov 06, 2014
chizzily:

you believe that cause you are a Christian.
if u wanna talk to an atheist or non Christian about it,it wont sound logical.
I feel some of the stories in the bible were exaggerated
and how do an atheist tell me that life suddenly started earth moon millions of stars galaxies suddenly came into existence doesn't sound logical,talkin of logical how do u explain a place where no plane can fly over or througham talkin abt bemurda triangle located in pacific ocean doesn't sound logical abi??yet it is one of the mystery humans are yet to uncover.the truth is that life its self is a mystery and notin abt it is logical the more u try to underrstan it the more u lose it
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by timmy2409(m): 7:57am On Nov 06, 2014
The list of problems with the story of Noah's Ark is ridiculously LONG, but I'll highlight a few

1. Through our boat building experience over the past millenia, we know that a sea-worthy vessel with such dimensions as described in the bible cannot be made entirely out of wood. The Wyoming, which is the largest wooden ship modern humans ever built was heavily reinforced with steel, and still here's her story:

Because of her extreme length and wood construction, Wyoming tended to flex in heavy seas, which would cause the long planks to twist and buckle, thereby allowing sea water to intrude into the hold (see hogging and sagging). Wyoming had to use pumps to keep her hold relatively free of water. In March 1924, she foundered in heavy seas and sank with the loss of all hands.


2. The Ark as described could not possibly contain the amount of species we see in the world today, not even to talk of the enormous amounts of food they would require for a year. Below is a size comparison of the ark with modern ships. For reference, the Titanic was able to carry about 3500 people, with enough food for 2 weeks.



3. The logistics involved with getting all the species to and from the ship to their various current locations are just transparently impossible. The life span of so many animals and insects are so short that they would have died before even making it off their continents. Moreover a majority would have had to leave their niche habitats from the tropics, savannahs and deserts, outside of which they cannot survive. Also, how did the kangaroos, for example, get back to Australia from Mount Ararat in Turkey (where the Ark landed), without leaving any fossil evidence for their journey along the way? How did they cross the Indian ocean even? The same argument can be extended to the myriad of animals that are only found on certain continents, like koalas, polar bears, etc

4. What happened to the millions of species of microorganisms and half a million species of plants who would have not survived in such conditions? How about aquatic life? Across the board, a flood of the described proportions greatly distorts habitat qualities like salinity, pressure, and microbial density, all of which aquatic life require to survive.

5. How is it that God saw it fit to save all the species of animal on earth, but kill his beloved humans? Because of sin, you say? OK, well did the flood get rid of sin? Noah's family was back at it as soon as the ship landed! So it would seem like this was a failed exercise from the all-knowing. On another note, would you like to estimate how many sinless babies and little children died in that flood?

That's as far as I can tolerate writing about this BS.

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Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 8:12am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
and how do an atheist tell me that life suddenly started earth moon millions of stars galaxies suddenly came into existence doesn't sound logical,talkin of logical how do u explain a place where no plane can fly over or througham talkin abt bemurda triangle located in pacific ocean doesn't sound logical abi??yet it is one of the mystery humans are yet to uncover.the truth is that life its self is a mystery and notin abt it is logical the more u try to underrstan it the more u lose it
exactly why I remain agnostic cause both Christians and atheist don't have enough evidence to back up their claim. although theist were the ones who made the claim that there's god in the first place and should be the one proving it. . and not all atheist are scientists.

abt the Bermuda triangle,I am still skeptic about it o.
life is mystery so no need compounding it with religion. let's all just do good and live in peace with love in our hearts and the world will be a better place.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 9:19am On Nov 06, 2014
chizzily:
judging by the size of the ark as described in the Bible, there is no way it would have contained all the various species. and theres no way Noah would have been able to get all the diff types of animals or where they all located where he was? how did he get polar bears?


thanks you very much....
they don't wanna see reason.......

Am not saying Christianity is fake..i respect everyone's religion....but Christians have to understand that...most of the Bible stories and tales are not real but rather -- metaphors...parables ...meant to guide them.....

to assemble all the animals in this world even with modern technology in this modern time will take years...and the Bible recorded it took Noah only Months....with limited manpower/labour force cos he had only his family members to help him out...

they also see to forget that not all animals are found In a place....some animals are not in Africa..and those in Europe are not in Africa or south america etc..so did Noah travel all around the world to gather them? smh

its definitely a fictitious story....am surprised these Christians still believe it happened......
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 9:22am On Nov 06, 2014
Hawlahscho:


Here is a guy trying hard to condemn someone's belief. KEEP TRYING.

Mtshw....

am not trying to condemn ...am just trying to show you most of the bible tales are analogies and metaphors...most never happened......
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 9:31am On Nov 06, 2014
Yooguyz:


The noahs ark experience was not a normal one but a supernatural one. Don't you believe God in his ominipotence caused all the animals to gather in one place and then killed their appetite and kept them alive till the flood was over. WITH GOD ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
.snap out of your trance..and all this God this God that...

your smarter than this.....
.the story of Adam and eve...Noah...and many other tales in the Bible never happened....
they are Hebrew folklore....
just like we Yoruba have oduduwa...sango
the Chinese have theirs ..yin and yang...
the Mayans too...and many cultures have their own creation story..... and they also have tales of where they originated from
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 9:37am On Nov 06, 2014
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Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 10:21am On Nov 06, 2014
Darkrebel:



thanks you very much....
they don't wanna see reason.......

Am not saying Christianity is fake..i respect everyone's religion....but Christians have to understand that...most of the Bible stories and tales are not real but rather -- metaphors...parables ...meant to guide them.....

to assemble all the animals in this world even with modern technology in this modern time will take years...and the Bible recorded it took Noah only Months....with limited manpower/labour force cos he had only his family members to help him out...

they also see to forget that not all animals are found In a place....some animals are not in Africa..and those in Europe are not in Africa or south america etc..so did Noah travel all around the world to gather them? smh

its definitely a fictitious story....am surprised these Christians still believe it happened......
exactly
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:29am On Nov 06, 2014
gatiano:
noah's boat was 300 cubit long, 50 cubit wide and 30 cubit in height. that is ratio 10 to 5 to 3. check any ship or carrier or cruiser, or yacht or simple canoe, their dimension is always 10 to 5 to 3, if not, it won't float. that is not the issue here, the issue is whether it was real, yes it was real, but it didn't engulf the wholeworld. it should probably be europe or the mid east.

Bible says otherwise. Stop blaspheming or else...

Genesis 7:17-21

17 The flood continued for forty days on the earth. The waters increased and bore up the ark, and it rose high above the earth. 18 The waters prevailed and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the face of the waters. 19 And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits deep. 21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth, birds, livestock, beasts, all swarming creatures that swarm on the earth, and all mankind.

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Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:39am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
and how do an atheist tell me that life suddenly started earth moon millions of stars galaxies suddenly came into existence doesn't sound logical,talkin of logical how do u explain a place where no plane can fly over or througham talkin abt bemurda triangle located in pacific ocean doesn't sound logical abi??yet it is one of the mystery humans are yet to uncover.the truth is that life its self is a mystery and notin abt it is logical the more u try to underrstan it the more u lose it

what mysteries are you on about?
the so called triangle is in atlantic ocean, not pacific and planes fly over it everyday.

there are proofs of lives that existed millions of years ago but no single proof of flood covered earth.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by tranxo(m): 10:40am On Nov 06, 2014
Darkrebel:



thanks you very much....
they don't wanna see reason.......

Am not saying Christianity is fake..i respect everyone's religion....but Christians have to understand that...most of the Bible stories and tales are not real but rather -- metaphors...parables ...meant to guide them.....

to assemble all the animals in this world even with modern technology in this modern time will take years...and the Bible recorded it took Noah only Months....with limited manpower/labour force cos he had only his family members to help him out...

they also see to forget that not all animals are found In a place....some animals are not in Africa..and those in Europe are not in Africa or south america etc..so did Noah travel all around the world to gather them? smh

its definitely a fictitious story....am surprised these Christians still believe it happened......
Pre-Babel era, were ALL the people not living in one location? All the people in the world! Their population can't be that large to want to build a structure that could contain them all.
You run into problems when you start comparing the world of today with the young scanty world their. Christianity hinges on faith - belief in the unseen. You can never fully understand or explain spiritual things with a carnal knowledge. When God is involved in any assignment, expect overwhelming things cos He operates at a much higher level, and moves in mysterious ways.

EVERYTHING that God's hand is in often goes beyond human comprehension - that's where faith kicks in to take you the rest of the way. The story of Noah's Ark is more of spiritual than physical, for God is spirit.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:45am On Nov 06, 2014
tranxo:


EVERYTHING that God's hand is in often goes beyond human comprehension - that's where faith kicks in to take you the rest of the way. The story of Noah's Ark is more of spiritual than physical, for God is spirit.

So it didn't happen?
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 10:49am On Nov 06, 2014
tranxo:

Pre-Babel era, were ALL the people not living in one location? All the people in the world! Their population can't be that large to want to build a structure that could contain them all.
You run into problems when you start comparing the world of today with the young scanty world their. Christianity hinges on faith - belief in the unseen. You can never fully understand or explain spiritual things with a carnal knowledge. When God is involved in any assignment, expect overwhelming things cos He operates at a much higher level, and moves in mysterious ways.

EVERYTHING that God's hand is in often goes beyond human comprehension - that's where faith kicks in to take you the rest of the way. The story of Noah's Ark is more of spiritual than physical, for God is spirit.

dude shut up....use your common sense...
what is pre-babel era ...all people were living in the same place...all the animals too? even animals that are found in the North pole.... what does human population has to do with the discussion?

Christianity has made you a dullard ..reason like an intelligent human being......

even if humans did live in a single place before....then it would be impossible for the whole earth to be filled with humans.. .cos they couldn't have migrated that far.if they were all in babel like you say then its impossible they migrated to Europe ..Africa..america.....and covered the earth..... totally impossible. ....
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by tranxo(m): 10:50am On Nov 06, 2014
AlfaSeltzer:


So it didn't happen?
Get your glasses and read again. This time,......s.....l.....o....w.....l......y......
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by tranxo(m): 10:56am On Nov 06, 2014
Darkrebel:


dude shut up....use your common sense...
what is pre-babel era ...all people were living in the same place...all the animals too? even animals that are found in the North pole.... what does human population has to do with the discussion?

Christianity has made you a dullard ..reason like an intelligent human being......
the difference between you and i, is the ease of insults. Anyway, the population of the earth, man and animal, spread from the garden of Eden. If you will, read the book of Genesis.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 11:00am On Nov 06, 2014
tranxo:

the difference between you and i, is the ease of insults. Anyway, the population of the earth, man and animal, spread from the garden of Eden. If you will, read the book of Genesis.

go read my previous posts ..its been modified.....

so you believe that baby story of Adam and eve which is a hebrew folkloric tale told by Hebrew parents to their children for entertainment....smh. ....
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by astronautog(m): 11:09am On Nov 06, 2014
AlfaSeltzer:


what mysteries are you on about?
the so called triangle is in atlantic ocean, not pacific and planes fly over it everyday.

there are proofs of lives that existed millions of years ago but no single proof of flood covered earth.
ok may b in the atlantic but the part where u said plane fly over bemurda triangle that shows how de-informed u are do a google search on it.if thousand of planets can be void with no single life on them y can't earth b covered with water??oga proof oya explain how life exist only on earth when they are thousand of planets out there!!!use ur head God is real JESUS is the only way

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Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by tranxo(m): 11:10am On Nov 06, 2014
Darkrebel:


go read my previous posts ..its been modified.....

so you believe that baby story of Adam and eve which is a hebrew folkloric tale told by Hebrew parents to their children for entertainment....smh. ....
I'm not here to convince you to adopt my beliefs, your moniker tells me only God can do that. Sometimes, for one to gain new insights on obscure issues, one needs to approach such issues with an open mind.
So, for your modified bolded, read the book of Genesis with an unbiased mind. It "may" help you straighten out the timeline of events which you have skewed so seriously.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 11:16am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
ok may b in the atlantic but the part where u said plane fly over bemurda triangle that shows how de-informed u are do a google search on it.if thousand of planets can be void with no single life on them y can't earth b covered with water??oga proof oya explain how life exist only on earth when they are thousand of planets out there!!!use ur head God is real JESUS is the only way

it is impossible....there are aliens and other life form in other planets...

the earth is only a pinch in the universe ..just a tiny little dot. ....so its impossible for it to be the only one once inhabited.....
so are you tryna say..God created other planets for nothing or decoration?
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by astronautog(m): 11:16am On Nov 06, 2014
All this pple saying there is no God!bible is trash abeg make una wait!! So u wud also say dat witches are folk tales abi??u neva see witch b4where do evil powers come from??and if evil power exist then use ur moronic brain and decode that there is a only and only true GoD!!!I pity u guys always hunting christians bcus we are peaceful pple abi?go tell alhaji say allah and koran na folk tale weda ur neck no go turn 360 degree

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Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 11:19am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
All this pple saying there is no God!bible is trash abeg make una wait!! So u wud also say dat witches are folk tales abi??u neva see witch b4where do evil powers come from??and if evil power exist then use ur moronic brain and decode that there is a only and only true GoD!!!I pity u guys always hunting christians bcus we are peaceful pple abi?go tell alhaji say allah and koran na folk tale weda ur neck no go turn 360 degree

go read the post.... I said some bible stories are metaphors and analogies...they never actually happened...and I talked bout Noah and the flood event....if you had read that..then you will know nobody is opposing your religion......but you just came here preaching and so blinded with religion that you fail to reason intelligently......... ...
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by astronautog(m): 11:19am On Nov 06, 2014
Darkrebel:


it is impossible....there are aliens and other life form in other planets...

the earth is only a pinch in the universe ..just a tiny little dot. ....so its impossible for it to be the only one once inhabited.....
so are you tryna say..God created other planets for nothing or decoration?
have u seen any allen b4?bros na u are talkin folk tales!!!!GOD has his reasons don't question him live a good life that's all
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 11:24am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
have u seen any allen b4?bros na u are talkin folk tales!!!!GOD has his reasons don't question him live a good life that's all

I have not seen any alien before


but -- have you seen Noah before...or the ark?..and there's no proof it happened

so who's believing in unintelligent baby tales?

Other planets are inhabited...its not a tale...because soon...we will find out...science and technology are advancing daily...radio signals..soon we will contact extra terrestrial beings.....

if not then its a purposeless creation....why would God create a Universe so large then and create only humans in a pinch of it.....the earth is so small compared to the universe...its like a tiny grain of rice on the bar beach sands......so other places were created for fun or decoration ?
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by AlfaSeltzer(m): 11:31am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
ok may b in the atlantic but the part where u said plane fly over bemurda triangle that shows how de-informed u are do a google search on it.if thousand of planets can be void with no single life on them y can't earth b covered with water??oga proof oya explain how life exist only on earth when they are thousand of planets out there!!!use ur head God is real JESUS is the only way

No. Life does not exist only on earth. Even the bible is full of examples extraterrestials vising us. You xtians just love contradicting your holy bible.

About the water covering the earth, where did it come from? where did it evaporate to?

The pic below is the flight path of only one airline from US to the carribeans going through the said triangle.


Note that all planes going from europe to the carribean fly over that triangle. Base your affirmations on facts not folk tales.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by astronautog(m): 11:50am On Nov 06, 2014
AlfaSeltzer:


No. Life does not exist only on earth. Even the bible is full of examples extraterrestials vising us. You xtians just love contradicting your holy bible.

About the water covering the earth, where did it come from? where did it evaporate to?

The pic below is the flight path of only one airline from US to the carribeans going through the said triangle.


Note that all planes going from europe to the carribean fly over that triangle. Base your affirmations on facts not folk tales.
good gracious God ur post is full of lies am not called an astronaut for notin sir u can tell me sometins and I believe but say life exist outside earth now to our knowledge is a capital LIE!!! Nasa has been searching for a little as a bacteria outside our planet no sucess yet even liquid water has not been found the best they saw was ice,bro no plane has EVER flown through that triangle google it information is key
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by astronautog(m): 11:52am On Nov 06, 2014
AlfaSeltzer:


No. Life does not exist only on earth. Even the bible is full of examples extraterrestials vising us. You xtians just love contradicting your holy bible.

About the water covering the earth, where did it come from? where did it evaporate to?

The pic below is the flight path of only one airline from US to the carribeans going through the said triangle.


Note that all planes going from europe to the carribean fly over that triangle. Base your affirmations on facts not folk tales.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 11:55am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
good gracious God ur post is full of lies am not God an astronaut for notin sir u can tell me sometins and I believe but say life exist outside earth now to our knowledge is a capital LIE!!! Nasa has been searching for a little as a bacteria outside our planet no sucess yet even liquid water has not been found the best they saw was ice,bro no plane has EVER flown through that triangle google it information is key

your not Informed

..go research well and find out what NASA has collected
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by Nobody: 11:59am On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
good gracious God ur post is full of lies am not called an astronaut for notin sir u can tell me sometins and I believe but say life exist outside earth now to our knowledge is a capital LIE!!! Nasa has been searching for a little as a bacteria outside our planet no sucess yet even liquid water has not been found the best they saw was ice,bro no plane has EVER flown through that triangle google it information is key

your too superstitious and religion blinded....

the reason why planes crashed when they passed the Bermuda wasn't because of satanic forces...lmfao....
it was simply because the electro magnetic force was very high...planes pass there now..all they have to do is take the plane higher.. go read up


http://www.askcaptainlim.com/stories-truths-a-myths-aviation-95/41-do-airplanes-now-fly-through-the-bermuda-triangle.html
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by oluwalfa: 12:09pm On Nov 06, 2014
grin grin grin grin

All these xtians contradicting their bibles, saying things and telling others to go and research. Funny set of people.
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by astronautog(m): 12:13pm On Nov 06, 2014
Darkrebel:


your too superstitious and religion blinded....

the reason why planes crashed when they passed the Bermuda wasn't because of satanic forces...lmfao....
it was simply because the electro magnetic force was very high...planes pass there now..all they have to do is take the plane higher.. go read up


http://www.askcaptainlim.com/stories-truths-a-myths-aviation-95/41-do-airplanes-now-fly-through-the-bermuda-triangle.html
superstitious?nahhhhhh am not dat guy!religious?yaaaaaaa am just that guy! U say am blinded by religion ok give me ur glasses let me SEE from ur own point of view.....hmmmmm I prefer d blindness sir seeing sucks from ur view
Re: Proof That The Story Of Noah Is A Fable And Unreal .... by oluwalfa: 12:13pm On Nov 06, 2014
astronautog:
good gracious God ur post is full of lies am not called an astronaut for notin sir u can tell me sometins and I believe but say life exist outside earth now to our knowledge is a capital LIE!!! Nasa has been searching for a little as a bacteria outside our planet no sucess yet even liquid water has not been found the best they saw was ice,bro no plane has EVER flown through that triangle google it information is key

Alfa didn't say life existed outside earth. The Bible did. He just pointed it out to you.

No, NASA has not found but the Bible already told us there is. So who de we believe, NASA or the holy Bible word of God?

Planes fly over bermuda triangle at all altitudes.

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