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Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by emmanuel4758(m): 11:07am On Nov 10, 2014
is u.s.a Democracy different from our own?
when bomb blast Boston Republican govt give
Obama idea on how to capture the culprit the
people of the country blame state govt for not
putting much security in place doing the
marathon but in Nigeria democracy when bomb
blast in kano APC accuse Jonathan ,governor of
the same state accuse Jonathan ,even mass accuse
Jonathan is this how Democratic govt have to be?
why should APC in there own state accuse
President nawaoo in USA Republican state will like
to show outstanding in every affair so that people
will believe in them even voting for them .but
what is work of state government?
I thought they were elected can't they protect
those that elect them?
what is work of President in Democratic nation?
are they not the one that support the state when
situation is going out of hand?
why is obiano first focus is to protect the life of
people who vote for him and that attract much
investors .
in USA President always focus on threat between
foreign countries and support state if there is any
internal security chalange in abs news they accuse
new York state govt for not putting Ebola team in
alert in Nigeria APC accuse President gej for not
putting facility in place? is this how democracy
suppose to be ?
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by podosci(m): 11:11am On Nov 10, 2014
emmanuel4758:
is u.s.a Democracy different from our own?
when bomb blast Boston Republican govt give
Obama idea on how to capture the culprit the
people of the country blame state govt for not
putting much security in place doing the
marathon but in Nigeria democracy when bomb
blast in kano APC accuse Jonathan ,governor of
the same state accuse Jonathan ,even mass accuse
Jonathan is this how Democratic govt have to be?
why should APC in there own state accuse
President nawaoo in USA Republican state will like
to show outstanding in every affair so that people
will believe in them even voting for them .but
what is work of state government?
I thought they were elected can't they protect
those that elect them?
what is work of President in Democratic nation?
are they not the one that support the state when
situation is going out of hand?
why is obiano first focus is to protect the life of
people who vote for him and that attract much
investors .
in USA President always focus on threat between
foreign countries and support state if there is any
internal security chalange in abs news they accuse
new York state govt for not putting Ebola team in
alert in Nigeria APC accuse President gej for not
putting facility in place? is this how democracy
suppose to be ?

In USA each state has the right to a militia and each state has its own police department and its included in their constituition, but in Nigeria the federal Government is incharge of both the police, Army and paramilitary formations......It kind of make sense to blame the Federal Govt and not the state govt for any lapses in security
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by kestolove95(m): 11:21am On Nov 10, 2014
from fela camp...its DEMOstration of CRACE
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by Orunto: 12:12pm On Nov 10, 2014
Good. Let them define Democracy for us and relate it to Growth, Progress and Unity of the Nation. In the US, the President always gives an overview of the US account in his State of the Union address. When OBJ tried something similar to give a boost to practical democracy, NASS, JUDICIARY, SPEAKERS and SENATORS were confused and did not know how to accommodate such development and so the very good experiment failed 'cos of ignorance and opposition.
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by emmanuel4758(m): 1:16pm On Nov 10, 2014
podosci:


In USA each state has the right to a militia and each state has its own police department and its included in their constituition, but in Nigeria the federal Government is incharge of both the police, Army and paramilitary formations......It kind of make sense to blame the Federal Govt and not the state govt for any lapses in security
in our constitution a governor have legal right to secure his state with federal police governor can create his own security men as obiano is doing now ,governor is voted to protect interest of people in the state if governor can't secure his state why was he being elected at the first place?in many governor mandate like governor of Kaduna he said vote for me I will provide security to the state what does that mean ?in IMO rochas said the same in anambra obiano said security is first thing he will do if he won he will secure the live and property of the people so what are you talking about
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by emmanuel4758(m): 1:18pm On Nov 10, 2014
Orunto:
Good. Let them define Democracy for us and relate it to Growth, Progress and Unity of the Nation. In the US, the President always gives an overview of the US account in his State of the Union address. When OBJ tried something similar to give a boost to practical democracy, NASS, JUDICIARY, SPEAKERS and SENATORS were confused and did not know how to accommodate such development and so the very good experiment failed 'cos of ignorance and opposition.
this is why am asking does Western democracy have different meaning from Nigeria democracy.
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by podosci(m): 2:35pm On Nov 10, 2014
emmanuel4758:
in our constitution a governor have legal right to secure his state with federal police governor can create his own security men as obiano is doing now ,governor is voted to protect interest of people in the state if governor can't secure his state why was he being elected at the first place?in many governor mandate like governor of Kaduna he said vote for me I will provide security to the state what does that mean ?in IMO rochas said the same in anambra obiano said security is first thing he will do if he won he will secure the live and property of the people so what are you talking about

Nigeria is a foolish country . True federalism is not being practiced here, States are suppose to be independent of the federal government apart from issues of National security and foreign affairs but in Nigeria the state Government depend on the Federal government for everything . The powers of the state Government interms of security is limited to the Effectiveness of the federal government. Even in the USA matters of Terrorism are handled by the Federal Government, if a bomb goes off in Newyork, The NYPD would work in conjunction with the FBI and homeland security but the Federal Agencies would take the lead in the investigation. IN NIGERIA we don't have Kaduna police department or Borno Police department not even Imo police department, rather we have Nigerian Police Force under the mandate of the federal Government, Therefor any issue of security falls back to the office of the Inspector General of police, Director of SSS, Chief of Army staff all under the federal Government, The federal Government headed by the President who is the Commander in Chief............Before you reply let me ask you, Can Gov. Rochas remove the IG of police?, if he cant, then how can he alone without the Intervention of the Federal Govt ensure the safety of life and security in his state. Forget all those nonsense campaign promises,We know politicians make nonsense campaign promises to entice stupid Nigerians to vote for them
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by emmanuel4758(m): 3:09pm On Nov 10, 2014
podosci:


Nigeria is a foolish country . True federalism is not being practiced here, States are suppose to be independent of the federal government apart from issues of National security and foreign affairs but in Nigeria the state Government depend on the Federal government for everything . The powers of the state Government interms of security is limited to the Effectiveness of the federal government. Even in the USA matters of Terrorism are handled by the Federal Government, if a bomb goes off in Newyork, The NYPD would work in conjunction with the FBI and homeland security but the Federal Agencies would take the lead in the investigation. IN NIGERIA we don't have Kaduna police department or Borno Police department not even Imo police department, rather we have Nigerian Police Force under the mandate of the federal Government, Therefor any issue of security falls back to the office of the Inspector General of police, Director of SSS, Chief of Army staff all under the federal Government, The federal Government headed by the President who is the Commander in Chief............Before you reply let me ask you, Can Gov. Rochas remove the IG of police?, if he cant, then how can he alone without the Intervention of the Federal Govt ensure the safety of life and security in his state. Forget all those nonsense campaign promises,We know politicians make nonsense campaign promises to entice stupid Nigerians to vote for them
if I may ask
why obiano is using his own created force in anambra ,if this is illegal senate would have sanction him for failing the constitution ,why is it in every governor manifesto that security is first priority are they crazy knowing is federal work still put it there,why did oshomole use his own force combined with federal police to give his people maximum security and this is APC state?why did akpabio said security can never be his state challenge cus every of it force is well trained his force is not police but they are working with international ally for training ?why would you elect a governor?why is local. govt use police in. every of it affair etc a local govt can deploy police to any location within it region but why do we brain federal govt is fed and state not elected by us?why. did we put all blame on far govt instead of our. grass root govt ?
Re: Apc And Pdp Pls What Is Democracy? by podosci(m): 3:25pm On Nov 10, 2014
emmanuel4758:
if I may ask
why obiano is using his own created force in anambra ,if this is illegal senate would have sanction him for failing the constitution ,why is it in every governor manifesto that security is first priority are they crazy knowing is federal work still put it there,why did oshomole use his own force combined with federal police to give his people maximum security and this is APC state?why did akpabio said security can never be his state challenge cus every of it force is well trained his force is not police but they are working with international ally for training ?why would you elect a governor?why is local. govt use police in. every of it affair etc a local govt can deploy police to any location within it region but why do we brain federal govt is fed and state not elected by us?why. did we put all blame on far govt instead of our. grass root govt ?

The foolish senators and House of rep don't even know the constitution. We elect idiots who are guilty of criminal offences and expect them to take their time to sanction defaulters of the constitution.When Farouk collected bribe, what did the senate do? When $20bn went missing in the NNPC, what did the senators do?, when govt illigaly trafficd money to buy arms in south-Africa, what did the senate do?. The Nigerian constitution did not make provision for state police, The matter of state police is still under debate but has not been concluded upon. The federal Govt is still incharge of the Police force. okay let me go with u and make a preposterous assumption that The states can have their own security force, even if that's possible, issues like terrorism and bomb explosion fall under the Jurisdiction of Federal Govt agencies because they affect National security.

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