Do muslims in America celebrate thanksgiving going by the Christian history of that festival?

Funmilayo: Ki lo nse iwo omo tio simi yi?

RedHotChic:

Do muslims in America celebrate thanksgiving going by the Christian history of that festival?

No my dear we are not following your tradition of celebrating those thanksgiving day,

Muslims give thanks at least 5x daily during salat. Everyday is a day for giving thanks to Allah.

olabowale:

Funmilayo: Ki lo nse iwo omo tio simi yi?

I don't want anything and its just an innocent question.

No my dear we are not following your tradition of celebrating those thanksgiving day,

Why are American muslims not complaining then because the church should be separated from the state according to the constitution but both the govt and labor unions observe it as a holiday?.

Will you honor my invitation to come and eat turkey if I invite you or is it against the laws of Allah?

Muslims give thanks at least 5x daily during salat. Everyday is a day for giving thanks to Allah.

Same for christians but thanksgiving is a special day dedicated to God in the nation of America. Christians and non christians that also believe in God celebrate thanksgiving in America and muslims partake in the turkey feast too but I dont see the reason why they wouldn't also partake in thanking God?. Today should be their official salat.

HOtfunmi to di nkon o. You are probably a bad cook. Reason: no deviant/fetish woman can cook well! Probably its too much (epo), then the ata will be half done at best, and maybe too much salt. Too much like the spiked pomps/6 or 8 inches at least!

You think Islam is bounded by any nation? Islam is not bounded by the artificial boundary of land known as Arabia Saudia. Its the other way around: It is islam that bounds Makka, Madina, Saudi Arabia, the whole of Arabic people and the whole of the land mass and water mass of the world.

Reason: it is the religion that is ordained on mankind by The Almighty Allah.

HOtfunmi to di nkon o. You are probably a bad cook. Reason: no deviant/fetish woman can cook well! Probably its too much (epo), then the ata will be half done at best, and maybe too much salt. Too much like the spiked pomps/6 or 8 inches at least!

I don't do ata, sorry and am a damn good cook. I am sure I cook better than your ibo and oyibo wives .

You think Islam is bounded by any nation? Islam is not bounded by the artificial boundary of land known as Arabia Saudia. Its the other way around: It is islam that bounds Makka, Madina, Saudi Arabia, the whole of Arabic people and the whole of the land mass and water mass of the world.

Reason: it is the religion that is ordained on mankind by The Almighty Allah.

Whatever. Why partake in turkey eating but refuse the rituals that come with the turkey?

Redhot, you could post the same question to nigerian christians. We also take the general ileya holiday even though we dont subscribe to it neither do you refuse the meat from your muslim neighbour abi.

Let muslims enjoy their turkey jare.

Redhot, you could post the same question to nigerian christians. We also take the general ileya holiday even though we don't subscribe to it neither do you refuse the meat from your muslim neighbour abi.

Let muslims enjoy their turkey jare.

Modern day thanksgiving in America is no more a christian show alone because it's thanksgiving unto God . It's expected of any American that believes in God whether you are a christian, muslim, buddhist etc. Olabowale will love my food but will gladly reject my prayers on top of the food.

And no, my pastor specifically warned us not to partake in any feast with unbelievers.

@Redhotchic

And no, my pastor specifically warned us not to partake in any feast with unbelievers.

Who did your pastor refer to as unbeliever? I noticed that you dont bother to read or provide rebuttal in most of the threads I have exposed some biblical verses you presented.

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I don't do ata, sorry and am a damn good cook. I am sure I cook better than your ibo and oyibo wives .

I know that you cant cook jack. I know. And I am not married to oyinbo, or non9ja woman. Someday, I would do a taste test on your kookin. You better be ready to impress. I want egusi and bitter leaves. Then many different efo stews; Shoko, Tete, Elegede, etc. lol. Ewedu with ada stew.

Now, you will make Amala, of different kind, Eba (since I am an Ijebu boy), Iyon, etc. And my favorite of all african dish is black eyepeas, with opulence of all kinds of fishes to flavor it. If you fail to impress me, I will let nairaland know.


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Whatever. Why partake in turkey eating but refuse the rituals that come with the turkey?
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I personally don't do this. But I will not blame anyone who participate. Reason is that I do not see a clear religiousity in the thanksgiving. In this, Islam may not be aganst it. For example, our Prophet (AS) while Islam was already established in Madina, said that he will participate now, as he did participate in good need that he was part of those who protected the rights of the "oppressed" in Makka before Islam. When the prophet made this statement, Makka was still not conquered, so her inhabitants, for the most part were unbelievers.

If the prophet (AS) cooperated with disbelievers in good deeds, in the time of Arab ignorance, before Islam, and he said he would cooperate with them in good deeds, in the same way after light of Islam have entered the land, then we should know that Islam emphasises on good deeds more than "rejections and separations.

Aburo. Participate with me in what is good. Thats Islam. Then soon, you will lose that hardcore exterior that you falsely project. I can read you; Loud and clear.

I know that you can't cook jack. I know. And I am not married to oyinbo, or non9ja woman. Someday, I would do a taste test on your kookin. You better be ready to impress. I want egusi and bitter leaves. Then many different efo stews; Shoko, Tete, Elegede, etc. lol. Ewedu with ada stew.

Now, you will make Amala, of different kind, Eba (since I am an Ijebu boy), Iyon, etc. And my favorite of all african dish is black eyepeas, with opulence of all kinds of fishes to flavor it. If you fail to impress me, I will let nairaland know.

Anyday I invite you to come and eat, just know that am trying to poison you into coma so that I can castrate you. What on earth will make me develop a crush for a polygamist like you especially one from ijebu?. So, anytime I invite you for a meal, run run run faster than you normally do. Don't fall into my trap because of my delicious egusi because you will pay dearly with the loss of your testicles. Women need a breathe of fresh air around you and I wouldn't mind to make that happen.

Again, I thought you have an Egyptian and Igbo wife?. I know you have a thing for yellow skin. Oniranu.

babs787:

@Redhotchic

Who did your pastor refer to as unbeliever? I noticed that you don't bother to read or provide rebuttal in most of the threads I have exposed some biblical verses you presented.

Unbelievers are those that are not born again. You cant be born again because you don't believe in Jesus, can you?

@Redhotchic

Unbelievers are those that are not born again. You can't be born again because you don't believe in Jesus, can you?

Are you saying christian that is not born again is an unbeliever?
What does it take to be born again?
Believe in Jesus as what?

Hope you have been taking note of the verses I have been explaining in which you have been hisding under?

Ori e ya. Funmi omo buruku. How do you come about the oniranu? Enu e gboro kupo ju. Ara oko ara e. If I see you, i will put a dirty sock into that dirty mouth of yours. Where do you live in the Bush of Maryland? I bring Nigerian army commando to invade your neighborhood. They will defang you and render you High heel shoeless.

You think I participate in fornication? My body is not for somebody like you. Castration, if thats your style, you should practice on those weak souls and your "boo" who clamor around you.

All I ask you was food, and nothing more. A woman who goes around having "boo" who they are not married to, is not my style. A "boo" should be the spouse.

Ori e ya. Funmi omo buruku. How do you come about the oniranu? Enu e gboro kupo ju. Ara oko ara e. If I see you, i will put a dirty sock into that dirty mouth of yours. Where do you live in the Bush of Maryland? I bring Nigerian army commando to invade your neighborhood. They will defang you and render you High heel shoeless.

You think I participate in fornication? My body is not for somebody like you. Castration, if thats your style, you should practice on those weak souls and your "boo" who clamor around you.

All I ask you was food, and nothing more. A woman who goes around having "boo" who they are not married to, is not my style. A "boo" should be the spouse.

Roflmao whats your business with my boo?. I've warned you before that he will wrench your neck one day. We will get married someday but we are taking our time to discover ourselves and whom we are.

Look for a subway or something to feed yourself because na ata i go use treat your wound after castrating you.

Are you saying christian that is not born again is an unbeliever?
What does it take to be born again?
Believe in Jesus as what?

Hope you have been taking note of the verses I have been explaining in which you have been hisding under?

For you to be a christian, you have to accept Jesus as your personal lord and saviour and that is the only condition for being a believer. How can you call yourself a christian if you have not accepted Jesus as your personal lord and savior?. Read John 3:16.

ara oko maryland. have ever seen a subway before? even the metro in dc.

ms. dominetrix, u wanna invite that boo of urs to nyc? she omo 9ja ni, abi afo mo? either way, he and you are minced meat. ma gbagbe pe baba le mi o. ere ori igi, sheku omo edun ni.

@Funmi:

Roflmao whats your business with my boo?. I've warned you before that he will wrench your neck one day. We will get married someday but we are taking our time to discover ourselves and whom we are.

How much time do you need to discover "ourselves" in the world of dominatrix? Duuh! And all the while you and him inflict pain on each other in the " mistress Funmi and slave boy" relationship that you guys are having, sex too? This is Christianity or what Jesus approved? lol. Funmilayo, o kin nse omode mo. bawo ni Iya Orile kingdom she ma gbogbo jagba jagba yi kinu won dun?

Look for a subway or something to feed yourself because na ata i go use treat your wound after castrating you.

Deviant/Neo-Womanist/Uber-realist/UrbanGoddess/Eco-Dominatrix/invincible

I wonder if you think everyone who talks to you wants to sleep with you? I am not one of them. Tat will be Zina. In my case it will be punishable by death. I have no reason to stray. And I am sure you will not be my type. lol. At least its saturday and am not as busy. So let me have my jokes (fun time) at your expenses. You see, only the gullibles need your dominatrix services! lol.

Redhotchic

Why are American muslims not complaining then because the church should be separated from the state according to the constitution but both the govt and labor unions observe it as a holiday?.

The government has the right to declare holiday any time not only those you mention but also other important days to pay tribute and respect for the good of the people as well.
Everybody are entitle for that holiday event …declared by government to have a enjoyable time to relax and celebrate on your part because of what you believe on it, but not to other religion who’s belief are bound by their own festivities also.

Will you honor my invitation to come and eat turkey if I invite you or is it against the laws of Allah?

Inviting people of different faith to come in your house to celebrate is a good thing to get in touch one another. If you leading a prayer on top of the table with a turkey dishes people will not bother because its your tradition to have a festivity to celebrate. I will not ignore your invitation for the sake of friendship to get closer, but don’t put potion on that dishes ha… coz your “boo” will wreck my neck, ;

Inviting people of different faith to come in your house to celebrate is a good thing to get in touch one another. If you leading a prayer on top of the table with a turkey dishes people will not bother because its your tradition to have a festivity to celebrate. I will not ignore your invitation for the sake of friendship to get closer, but don’t put potion on that dishes ha… Cheesy because your “boo” will wreck my neck,

No he won't do that. He will only do that to Olabowale that has been looking for the slightest opportunity to sleep with me.

olabowale:

@Funmi:
How much time do you need to discover "ourselves" in the world of dominatrix? Duuh! And all the while you and him inflict pain on each other in the " mistress Funmi and slave boy" relationship that you guys are having, sex too? This is Christianity or what Jesus approved? lol. Funmilayo, o kin nse omode mo. bawo ni Iya Orile kingdom she ma gbogbo jagba jagba yi kinu won dun?

What do you care?
@bold,

[b]I wonder if you think everyone who talks to you wants to sleep with you? [/b]I am not one of them. Tat will be Zina. In my case it will be punishable by death. I have no reason to stray. And I am sure you will not be my type. lol. At least its saturday and am not as busy. So let me have my jokes (fun time) at your expenses. You see, only the gullibles need your dominatrix services! lol.

Please! you have a serious crush on me and probably take two pills of viagra anytime you want to read my post on Nairaland. Obsession with me if you ask me. Bloody adulterer!. Just come near me and see what my boo will do to you.

Oh boy. Funmilayo, you have a wierd imagination. What would I be doing in Maryland, when NYC is almost as large? Even if you become a muslim, I will have a dude your age for you. My taste is different. I hope you wear Hijab, when you become muslim. And bring your "boo" along. Are they still using the term "boo?" That was some years ago. News and fads travels slow through Maryland country side. lol

Oh boy. Funmilayo, you have a wierd imagination. What would I be doing in Maryland, when NYC is almost as large? E[b]ven if you become a muslim, I will have a dude your age for you. My taste is different.[/b] I hope you wear Hijab, when you become muslim. And bring your "boo" along. Are they still using the term "boo?" That was some years ago. News and fads travels slow through Maryland country side. lol

Thanks but I will never become one because Christ is doing it for me. I don't have weird imagination, just stop dreaming about my undies because you can never ever get there even as a rapist.

There are somethings that are not for Public consumptions. What you wrote above is one of them. Jesus your god could not approve such vulgar utterrances. Funny enough you will go to church, today, still as one of the "born again?" What if you are not a "born again", would there be a restraint in your speech, since you said that " it is Jesus who has cautioned you from a hard response to me?" Yoruba woman is expected of good manners, speeches. Learn that quality.

Aburo, you are not my type, at least from your speech. I love modesty in women. The skin color and beauty are not the only measure of what my type of woman is. I love goodly woman. I find this quality in Islam. It is either you lost your yorubaness, or it is Islam that has improved me. I think both are correct situation. In my youth, if you had the gut to throw such a gauntlet, I will tell you to show your bravery.


Then you would have had to learn at thing or two. Remember that I grew up in the 60/70s. That was a wild time. You would easily be put aside, today, if you live in any boro of New York City. I think your "Maryland" villager mindset is what is deceiving you. Unless you want to be stumped, walked all over? The Miss Neowoman, leather vest wearing dominatrix will be breakfast cereal. lol.

Funmi, lo feko. I am not for you. So stop dreaming about baba agba. You don'r have to prood to me that you are a woman. Do that by getting married to your cow milker, the dude you are calling "boooooooooooooooooo!" lol. I want the best for you. Thats all.

Redhotchic your funny lol …I’m laughing  when you lay on those words to brother Olabowale what a bland tam statement you’re delivering   to our Sheik…you need counselling to guide you in a right way its not a good idea to exploit those remarkable statement of making fun here be cautious of what you said that is personal aggressiveness.

The below is a good expose about "Love" from Allah to His Slaves. I am one of the slaves. I am grateful about being a slave of the Almighty Creator.

http://www.wefound.org/ Your website to success through authentic knowledge of Islâm and Da'wah according to the Qur’ân and the Sunnah.


Love and Devotion to Allah
By Dr. Norlain Dindang Mababaya

We have to love Allah, the Most High, and be devoted to Him Alone so that in return, He will love us. Only when we gain His love and mercy can we succeed in conveying the Message of Islam. We have to be devoted Muslims in order to seek Allah’s help to bless us and be successful in our Da’wah. We have to earnestly pray to Him that the non-Muslims who listen to our Da’wah see the Truth. Verily, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala, meaning: the Most Glorious and the Exalted) is the One Who guides people to Islam. No matter how much we try to explain the Truth to non-Muslims, they will never accept it unless our Creator opens their hearts to it. Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) tells us:

“Those whom Allah wills to guide, He opens their breast to Islam. Those whom He wills to leave straying, He makes their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies; thus does Allah lay abomination on those who refuse to believe.” (6:125)

For our guidance, we have to know how to earn Allah’s love. In the Qur’an Allah Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) tells us two ways by which He bestows His love upon us:

“Say: ‘If you do love Allah follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.’” (3:31)

“On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness will (Allah) Most Gracious bestow Love.” (19:96)

It is very clear that if we follow the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam), Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) will love us. Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) invited people to believe (in Tawhîd and the six articles of Faith) and work deeds of righteousness, which he himself practiced with much devotion. We can show our love and devotion to Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) by performing not only the obligatory deeds required upon us but also to do the supererogatory or voluntary deeds.


This means to observe the obligatory five daily prayers, zakat, fasting in the month of Ramadan, and hajj in the House of Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) in Makkah once in a lifetime for those who can afford it. In addition to these is to try as much as possible to perform the optional prayers, to give sadaqa (voluntary charity), to fast in other days and months, and to perform umrah. All these must be done in accordance with the Sunnah or Way of the Prophet (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam).

The most important of these voluntary deeds is the qiyaam ul layl or tahajjud (after midnight prayer). Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) commanded His Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) to pray qiyaam ul layl, which the Prophet (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) regularly performed and which became part of his Sunnah. We read in the Qur’an :


O you (Muhammad) folded in garments! Stand (to prayer) by night, but not whole night, half of it, or a little less, or a little more; and recite the Qur’an in slow, measured rhythmic tone. Soon shall We send down to you a weighty Word. Truly the rising by night is a time when impression is more keen and speech more certain. True, there is for you by day prolonged occupation with ordinary duties: but keep in remembrance the name of your Rabb, and devote yourself to Him whole-heartily. He is the Rabb of the East and the West: there is no god but He. Take Him therefore for your Disposer of affairs. (73:1-9)

“Verily, your Rabb does know that you (O Muhammad) stand forth (to prayer) nigh two-thirds of the night or half the night, or a third of the night, and so does a party of those with you. And Allah measures the night and the day. He knows that you are unable to pray the whole night. So He has turned to you (in mercy). Read therefore as much of the Qur’an as may be easy (for you).

He knows that there will be some among you sick, others traveling through the land, seeking of Allah’s Bounty, and others fighting in Allah’s Cause. So, recite as much of the Qur’an as may be easy (for you) and perform regular prayer and give Zakat; and loan to Allah a beautiful loan. And whatever good you send forth for yourselves, you shall find it with Allah. Yes, better and greater in reward, and seek forgiveness of Allah, for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (73:20)

By making qiyaam ul layl as part of our practice, we become pious, a characteristic that will make us better Muslims. We must strive to be pious. We must know that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) encourages us to have such excellent character as narrated in the following Hâdîth:

Abu Dharr (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said to him, “You are not better than people with red or black skins unless you excel them in piety.” (Tirmidhi 5198 and Ahmad)

Once we become pious, we earn Allah’s love. Allah the Almighty will bless us with the best personality ¾ one that is loved by all the angels, and all the people, including non-Muslims. We read the following Ahâdîth Qudsi:


Abu Hurairah (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said, “Allah (Mighty and sublime be He) said: ‘Whoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him.

When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes, and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask (something) of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about (seizing) the soul of my faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him.’” (Bukhari 8/509)


Abu Hurairah (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that the Prophet (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said, “If Allah loves a person, He calls Gabriel saying, 'Allah loves so and-so; O Gabriel! Love him.’ Gabriel would love him and make an announcement amongst the inhabitants of the Heaven. 'Allah loves so-and-so, therefore you should love him also,' and so all the inhabitants of the Heaven would love him, and then he is granted the pleasure of the people on the earth.” (Bukhari 4/431 and 8/66, Muslimand Tirmidhi)


We should include in our supplications to Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) during qiyaam ul layl, that He makes us effective Du’ât, so that those non-Muslims who listen to us will easily see the Light of Islam. When we do this, by Allah’s Will, we will succeed as Du’ât because Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) listens and grants supplications from His devoted worshippers especially during qiyaam ul layl. Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said:


Abu Hurairah (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said: “Our Rabb, the Blessed, the Superior, comes down every night to the nearest heaven to us during the last third of the night. Then, He says: ‘(Is there anyone) who invokes Me, (demands anything from Me) so that I respond to his invocation? (Is there anyone) who asks Me for something so that I may grant him his request? (Is there anyone) who seeks My forgiveness, so that I may forgive him?’” (Bukhari 2/246)


It is a must that we should invite people to love Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) for the favors that He has given to us. Verily, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) is our Creator, Sustainer and Cherisher. Everything comes from Him. He Alone deserves our love:


“Yet there are men who take (for worship) others besides Allah as equal (with Allah); they love them as they should love Allah. But those of faith are overflowing in their love for Allah. If only the unrighteous could see behold they would see the penalty that to Allah belongs all power and Allah will strongly enforce the penalty.” (2:165)


We should invite non-Muslims to love Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) so that the Almighty will love them in return. They can show their love to Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) by being rational and sincere in their search for Truth. If they do so, they will find that verily, Islam is the True Religion from Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala). Insha Allah, He will open their hearts to Islam as He is the One Who gives Islam to those whom He loves. Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) says in the following Hâdîth:


‘Abdullah Bin Mas’ud (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said, “Allah Most High has allotted you your characters just as He has allotted you your provisions. Allah Most High gives worldly things to those whom He loves and those whom He does not love, but He gives religion only to those whom He loves, so he who is given religion by Allah has been loved by Him. By Him in Whose hand my soul is, a man is not a Muslim till his heart and tongue are submissive, and he is not a believer till his neighbor is safe from injurious behavior on his part.” (Tirmidhi 4994)

olabowale:

There are somethings that are not for Public consumptions. What you wrote above is one of them. Jesus your god could not approve such vulgar utterrances. Funny enough you will go to church, today, still as one of the "born again?" What if you are not a "born again", would there be a restraint in your speech, since you said that " it is Jesus who has cautioned you from a hard response to me?" Yoruba woman is expected of good manners, speeches. Learn that quality.

Aburo, you are not my type, at least from your speech. I love modesty in women. The skin color and beauty are not the only measure of what my type of woman is. I love goodly woman. I find this quality in Islam. It is either you lost your yorubaness, or it is Islam that has improved me. I think both are correct situation. In my youth, if you had the gut to throw such a gauntlet, I will tell you to show your bravery.


Then you would have had to learn at thing or two. Remember that I grew up in the 60/70s. That was a wild time. You would easily be put aside, today, if you live in any boro of New York City. I think your "Maryland" villager mindset is what is deceiving you. Unless you want to be stumped, walked all over? The Miss Neowoman, leather vest wearing dominatrix will be breakfast cereal. lol.

Funmi, lo feko. I am not for you. So stop dreaming about baba agba. You don'r have to prood to me that you are a woman. Do that by getting married to your cow milker, the dude you are calling "boooooooooooooooooo!" lol. I want the best for you. Thats all.

Egbon, dont get mad because i allayed my fears. For the last time, stay off my behind because my boo will wrench your old neck.

samba123:

Redhotchic your funny lol …I’m laughing when you lay on those words to brother Olabowale what a bland tam statement you’re delivering to our Sheik…you need counselling to guide you in a right way its not a good idea to exploit those remarkable statement of making fun here be cautious of what you said that is personal aggressiveness.

I thought he is cool tempered but i just brought him out from his shell to show his true nature. Ha ha, egbon ola, ma binu o .