OLAADEGBU:


Did Jesus die on a cross or a stake?

http://carm.org/stake-or-cross

OLAADEGBU:


Did Jesus die on a cross or a stake?

http://carm.org/stake-or-cross

Did Jesus die on a stake or a cross?
by Matt Slick

Jesus died on a cross and not a stake. In particular, the non-Christian cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus died on a stake, not a cross.¹ It really does not matter on which one Jesus died. The issue is whether or not He shed His blood for our sins.

The Greek word used in many Bibles which is translated into "cross" is the Greek word "stauros" which means, "an upright stake, esp. a pointed one, a cross."² If a stake were used, instead of a cross, then Jesus' hands would have been placed above His head with a nail driven through His wrists. Since the wrists would most likely overlap, only one nail is needed through both wrists. However, John 20:25 says,

"The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe."

Notice the use of the word nails (plural) in reference to hands (plural). It makes far more sense to say that Jesus was crucified on a cross with outstretched hands and one nail in each hand placed above each other on a stake. That is why it says " . . . in his hands the print of the nails . . . "

Therefore, it is most logical to state that Jesus died on a cross with outstretched arms.

One last thing, the Jehovah's Witnesses will say that the cross is a pagan symbol, but that is meaningless. The cross was one of the Roman Empire's methods of execution. It would be like saying that the electric chair is a pagan symbol. It isn't. It is just a means of execution.

http://carm.org/stake-or-cross

OLAADEGBU:


Did Jesus die on a cross or a stake?

http://carm.org/stake-or-cross

hahn:


Jesus never existed

Even spiderman movies are more accurate in detail

OLAADEGBU:


If Jesus never existed why are you enraged about Him?

OLAADEGBU:


If Jesus never existed why are you enraged about Him?

The catholic church alone have killed millions because of Jesus. Not to talk of the people that died in catholic pentecostal wars. All for an irrelevant Jesus.

But I don't see people killing for unicorns. Or do you

OLAADEGBU:
Did Jesus die on a cross or a stake?

http://carm.org/stake-or-cross

hahn:


Lol. Is there another meaning to enraged?

ValentineMary:


The death of Jesus is irrelevant to humanity. How can a man who died 2,000 years ago claim to die for my sins let'a do the logic here. 2,000 yeara ago, I was not born. And nobody living today was born so it means we were not existing 2,000 years ago. So it simply means Jesus died for non existing people. Hmmm that's funny because why would unexisting people be guilty of sin

Some would claim we were sinners before we were conceived. If that's the case, then the sin is God fault and not mine. Because before I was born, I was unconscious. So can an unconscious person have commited sin seriously xtians have ti upgrade their bible. They are quickly losing members (Which I think is a good thing )

ValentineMary:


The catholic church alone have killed millions because of Jesus. Not to talk of the people that died in catholic pentecostal wars. All for an irrelevant Jesus.

But I don't see people killing for unicorns. Or do you

oaroloye:


SHALOM!



If Yahshua had died on a STAKE, there should have been moves throughout History by independent Protestants, to correct Rome's Error.

OLAADEGBU:


Irate, angry, indignation, wrath and fury.

hahn:


If you add psycopathic, mass murderer you will get Jehovah

OLAADEGBU:


Do you believe Jehovah exists?

hahn:


Of course not. But you do. Do you know how it is when a kid flips his hand like spiderman and you act like you got caught in a web? You know that spiderman and the whole web thing aren't real but you act like it is to make the child happy. You know children and their imaginary friends

OLAADEGBU:


You don't believe that He exists and yet you are hating on Him. Why don't you hate on your spiderman the way you are all over the 'God that does not exist'?

sonofluc1fer:
Could have been hit by a car for all I care. How is it my business?

OLAADEGBU:


If the death of Jesus is irrelevant why do you use 2016 AD as a point of reference? Why don't you scrap your date of birth if you feel it is not relevant?

OLAADEGBU:


People die for their convictions in the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ and I don't see people die for fairy tales.

OLAADEGBU:


If the death of Jesus is irrelevant why do you use 2016 AD as a point of reference? Why don't you scrap your date of birth if you feel it is not relevant?

oaroloye:


SHALOM!



If Yahshua had died on a STAKE, there should have been moves throughout History by independent Protestants, to correct Rome's Error.

hahn:


I cannot hate spiderman but I will get pissed off when the kids grows older and still believes that spiderman is real to the extent he goes around knocking doors and preaching the news of "spiderman" and threatening people with eternal damnation for not believing spiderman is real. Wouldn't you?

ValentineMary:


If the Roman Gods are irrelevant to u, why do u use Monday?? why not scrap it out.

ValentineMary:


My point is that for the fact people are willing to do terrible things for an imaginary deity, is enough for me to talk about him.

raphieMontella:


this is wrong sire...
Modern usage of ''BCE and CE'' is still accepted other than basically AD and BC....
Also..the use of jesus's alledged birth mark to mark years began years later and was not complete until the 15th century..
https://en.m.wikipedia. org/wiki/History_of_calendars

The first six centuries after the birth of jesus,,europeans used local systems to count years,,usually [url=https://en.m .wikipedia.org/wiki/Regnal_year]regnal years[/url] modeled on the old testament..
In other cases [url=https://en.m. wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Mundi]creation dating[/url] was also used..
T was until the sixth century that dionysius devised the ''AD''..and thats when that system started...
By then christianity had been common by the actions of uncle constantine,,rome and accomodation of pagan stuffs to make christianity more desiring...
Also..jesus birth is c.4BC not 1BC..so its not basically him.

OLAADEGBU:


Only you atheists believed in the existence of 'spiderman' and you have now graduated into believing in the invisible pink unicorn rather than living in the real world.

OLAADEGBU:


And my point is the fact that people are willing to die for their conviction of life, death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and not an imaginary deity. Are you willing to suffer persecution and die for the invisible pink unicorn?

Do u believe Atman the Hindu God is real I don't think so. But there are 1 billion people willing to die for him. Because people are moved by emotions to take radical steps does not make it true.

OLAADEGBU:


Why do you think we have a 7 day week and not 9 or 10? Let's see if you are smart.