Bayswater:


Just tell me you are kidding. Can Allah not fight for himself? France does not have a native muslim population, these people (mainly immigrants) have been deprived from their various nations; France made a mistake by opening their borders to these set of ungrateful and impoverished immigrants. So what's hard in being a muslim? These mofos were indoctrinated and radicalized by the same Quran all of you read. Is that a lie? Until you face the facts and start going after the imams radicalizing these youngsters, the dim perception most western nations have about Islam will never change.

Chartey:

I'm not justifying anything. I'm just saying why not remove the provocation and prevent the attack in the first place. I explained above why French Muslims were likely to take those things more seriously than other religious groups in France.
And I'm Christian.

Chartey:

I'm not justifying anything. I'm just saying why not remove the provocation and prevent the attack in the first place. I explained above why French Muslims were likely to take those things more seriously than other religious groups in France.
And I'm Christian.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Islam is occultic, its a blood sucking forum. A group of rapist, child molesters, a prophet muhammed dat raped a 6 years old baby and ask his followers to rape children, peace cannever be unto him in hell were he is now.

Chartey:
Sometimes, the provocation can be dirty comments like this.

Yadoctora:


You are misinformed dear. Immigrants from countries where France gets a cut from their annual budget for colonising them. If these immigrants are not needed, di you think France would care to keep them?

You sound hatred-filled. I won't be surprised if you are a tertorist in the making.

Bayswater:


Just tell me you are kidding. Can Allah not fight for himself? France does not have a native muslim population, these people (mainly immigrants) have been deprived from their various nations; France made a mistake by opening their borders to these set of ungrateful and impoverished immigrants. So what's hard in being a muslim? These mofos were indoctrinated and radicalized by the same Quran all of you read. Is that a lie? Until you face the facts and start going after the imams radicalizing these youngsters, the dim perception most western nations have about Islam will never change.

Chartey:

The Nigerian society is a largely multi-religious one. It's not like a French society threatened by 'contamination' by a minority religion of immigrants. Also, Nigerian journalists largely respect religious boundaries.

PapiWata:


Once again, human beings are massacred because a couple of mad men expect to service 72 virgins in "Paradise", as a reward for committing capital murder.

Nihilist:
Freedom of Speech does not imply Freedom from Consequence

Nihilist:
Freedom of Speech does not imply Freedom from Consequence

ChristyG:
oh please spare my that sh1t talk,is it only islam that dat get critizised?no!!so why is it only muslims dat will start killing others when their religion gets critizised.soon,they will come and tell us islam is a religion of peace...ISLAM IS EVIL!!!

teemy:


I get your stand but I believe that usually minorities avoid unusual publicity especially bad ones. They could have used the courts to settle the dispute and most likey have won. Such a paper would have made enemies in the past and thus encouraging making them an example. On the contrary now more papers are no more conservative on the use of caution on islam anymore. Check out CNN is now permitting the use of prophet mohammed's picture unlike before. The victimizer victim has now becom a hero.

Chartey:

This is an ideal reaction. In this case however, these people feel the political and judicial systems are against them already as evidenced by persistent victimisation over the years. They won't seek redress from courts they don't trust.

teemy:

True but would going violent serve them any better?

PapiWata:


A self-declared nihilist like yourself would have done better to express the opinion that all acts of genocidal depravity perpetrated by sick and violent people should be permitted under the existential law that there is, ultimately, no law, in your opinion.

Nihilist:


Let's leave the philosophical debate that my username might provoke to the side for a minute.

Instead, lets focus on the fact that there is no country in this world where freedom of expression is not restricted to some extent.

Why?

Because every single Government in the world understands that unregulated speech is a recipe for Chaos. You can't let people going round saying everything they want to say, with the expectation that everyone else will just docilely accept it.

It's just common sense.

teemy:


I get your stand but I believe that usually minorities avoid unusual publicity especially bad ones. They could have used the courts to settle the dispute and most likey have won. Such a paper would have made enemies in the past and thus encouraging making them an example. On the contrary now more papers are no more conservative on the use of caution on islam anymore. Check out CNN is now permitting the use of prophet mohammed's picture unlike before. The victimizer victim has now becom a hero.

Nihilist:


Let's leave the philosophical debate that my username might provoke to the side for a minute.

Instead, lets focus on the fact that there is no country in this world where freedom of expression is not restricted to some extent.

Why?

Because every single Government in the world understands that unregulated speech is a recipe for Chaos. You can't let people going round saying everything they want to say, with the expectation that everyone else will just docilely accept it.

It's just common sense.

PapiWata:


The French people, as do the Americans and most of the industrialized west, jealously guard the right to free speech that is enshrined in the articles of democracy that date back to the very inception of all those nations constructed on solid foundations of true liberty for all.

If any particular subset of people resident in, or immigrated into, a free and democratic society find themselves developing a strong enough disdain for the right to engage in the unfettered free speech to which ALL nationals of such countries are entitled by law and by right, then such aggrieved groups of individuals are equally free to vote with their feet, and DEPART the country where freedom is non-negotiable, so as to ship off their narrow little minds away, for PERMANENT re-settlement in any of those backward and repressive rogue nations whose names end with the suffix "--istan", where the Golden Rule applies, in that those who own the gold make the rules that apply to all others except themselves, their relatives and their cronies.

In a nutshell, anyone who resides in a free democratic country like France, the UK, the USA or Australia, and who feels that free speech BY ALL is not to their liking, MUST be shown the door and booted out unceremoniously, so that they can depart to any of the various dark and restrictive jurisdictions on this green planet where the very concept of freedom is an alien one that will never take root in this lifetime.

If you don't love it, leave it and go where you DO love it, WITHOUT engaging in mass murder in furtherance of a quixotic and futile bid to alter the long established society around you by force of arms.

Nihilist:


You are still missing the very simple point I raised earlier.

Free speech is a myth. If not, why are there restrictions on hate speech, inciting speech, and racially-tinted speech in those very countries you mentioned?

PapiWata:


Expressing a sense of humor about religion in the print or electronic media is most certainly NOT the same thing as DIRECTLY inciting violence by a call to arms, which would not be allowed in any country that hopes to remain at peace internally and internationally.

If the satirical paper in France could mock Jesus and Christianity with NO violent reaction from anyone, then those who adhere to other religious belief systems would be very presumptive and arrogant indeed, to expect that THEIR religion should be EXEMPT from taking its turn as the but of jokes of the sort which are routinely taken in stride by Christians.

Again, my humble opinion is that anyone who wishes to impose double standards on the concept of free speech is obviously confused about the very meaning of the term "freedom", and should thus move PERMANENTLY to North Korea or Afghanistan to contemplate the concept of freedom and civil liberty, from a decidedly more enlightening and educative vantage point.

redsun:
The muderfuckers didn't have anything to live for,so they chose to end their miserable lives with people that have a lot to live for. The gap between the well off and the deprived,mostly African immigrants is astronomical and things like this are bound to happen with a bit of delusional persuasions.

Chartey:
Na wa o. This Charlie Hebdo thing eh.
Many people have condemned the killings and I follow suit.
I however want to say that I'm not comfortable with the way
people are not talking about the immediate cause.
Journalists/satirists have to learn how not to unnecessarily
ridicule what people hold dear to heart. A little humour is
never bad but the boundaries must always be recognised.
Indeed Charlie Hebdo is not a stellar organisation and has had
a few bans in the past because of extreme satire. Some
people may ask why Catholics and other groups don't attack
them. It is because the Muslim population of France is still
the most deprived and they hold on strongly to what unites
them and gives meaning to their lives. Therefore, their
reaction to that kind of attack on their religion will naturally be
more exaggerated than how other groups react. This is where
the focus must be.
It must be really hard to be a Muslim in this our generation,
you are ridiculed, betrayed by some few bad eggs, and then
the whole body of Islam bears the brunt again. I'm with you
my Muslim brethren.
My own small take o.
Please what do you think?