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Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 3:41pm On Feb 03, 2015
I am not an atheist and i don't dream to be one. All religion of a spiritual nature are presumably invention of man. It may vary in their system of worship and the name of their supreme being. Human, because of his ego has decided to give the term, 'God' using his self and canal brain. These questions are for two most populated religion in the world, Islam and Christian.

Why is there contradictions in the two holy books? Is the holy book not from the same supreme being (Allah/Jehovah God)? Check the teachings of Paul and that of Jesus Christ, for Christians. And for Muslims check creation of man( surah 17:61 and surah 16:4). And many millions of contradictions in these presumed holy books.

Why is that human cannot avoid this seven sins? either righteous or repented, ehn? Greedy, envy, gluttony, pride, sloth, lust and fornication. E.g Gluttony means eating more than you need to keep yourself alive. When you eat to the point of obesity then it is a sin. Can any human deny the faintest sexual desire? If no, then we are all guilty of sin. Is there any human whose clothes is free from any form of ornaments?

Why do Christians abandon the most teachings of the old testaments? Most Christian pastors always remember to cite Malachi as reference to paying tithes and offering. They neglected the other teachings of the old testament, they will say, " We're in the time of grace". They neglected the teachings/ commandments of Leviticus chapter 19. Is the God that gave commandments of Exodus chapter 20 different from the God of Leviticus chapter 19? And is the God of old testament different from God of new testament? Does God change his laws to suit mankind?

All descendants of Adam sinned because Adam sinned in the beginning. So how did Jesus Christ avoid this sin? This is because Jesus is from descendants of Adam. Why did God punish someone like Cain who kill Abel? And whereas did not feel guilty of killing the first born of Egyptians, ehn?

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Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by MicKvictorious(m): 4:04pm On Feb 03, 2015
May GOD have mercy on you soul.
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by Nobody: 4:57pm On Feb 03, 2015
What concerns 'Imams' here?

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Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by Nobody: 5:17pm On Feb 03, 2015
Oga, point of correction. Aside christianity I don't know shit. Ma God is different from d moon god muslim worship. So pls no compare we and dem.
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 6:46pm On Feb 03, 2015
Abuamam:
What concerns 'Imams' here?
It concerns imam because Quran is also filled with contradictions and other things if u want me to tell u
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by Nobody: 7:55pm On Feb 03, 2015
seggzz:

It concerns imam because Quran is also filled with contradictions and other things if u want me to tell u

No it is not. No single contradiction. I checked before I became a muslim. And do not bother copy/ pasting any website. I have seen them all; not in the mood either.
If the Quran verses you put up there are an example of a contradiction, then someone has not been doing his homework well.
BTW, an Imam is just someone who stands in front to lead the obligatory prayer. That is all. No MOG in Islam. Everybody on his own.
Please face the Christians seperately and face us seperately; our cases are miles apart.

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Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by shalompeace007: 8:12pm On Feb 03, 2015
Abuamam:


No it is not. No single contradiction. I checked before I became a muslim. And do not bother copy/ pasting any website. I have seen them all; not in the mood either.
If the Quran verses you put up there are an example of a contradiction, then someone has not been doing his homework well.
BTW, an Imam is just someone who stands in front to lead the obligatory prayer. That is all. No MOG in Islam. Everybody on his own.
Please face the Christians seperately and face us seperately; our cases are miles apart.
no sane man will like islam, even atheist prefers christianity to islam.
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 8:29pm On Feb 03, 2015
Abuamam:


No it is not. No single contradiction. I checked before I became a muslim. And do not bother copy/ pasting any website. I have seen them all; not in the mood either.
If the Quran verses you put up there are an example of a contradiction, then someone has not been doing his homework well.
BTW, an Imam is just someone who stands in front to lead the obligatory prayer. That is all. No MOG in Islam. Everybody on his own.
Please face the Christians seperately and face us seperately; our cases are miles apart.

Surah 16:4 -" He has created human being from a mere drop of FLUID......."

Surah 17:61- " ......shall I submitted to one whom you created out of CLAY"

please can u state difference between fluid and clay?
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by Nobody: 8:43pm On Feb 03, 2015
Clay is the state from which the first man was originally created, ie Adam. It also refers metaphorically to the fact that all the constituents of clay/earth are found in the body of people... silicon, metals, carbon, water etc.

Fluid refers to the seminal fluid and ova that are involved in subsequent creations from a mother and a father.

As you can see, both verses are accurate, in as much as I can say that juice is made with fruit, and juice is made with water and juice is made with natural chemical compounds and the 3 statements are all true.

I do not have any interest in opening a debate of this kind here. Sorry.

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Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 8:51pm On Feb 03, 2015
Abuamam:


No it is not. No single contradiction. I checked before I became a muslim. And do not bother copy/ pasting any website. I have seen them all; not in the mood either.
If the Quran verses you put up there are an example of a contradiction, then someone has not been doing his homework well.
BTW, an Imam is just someone who stands in front to lead the obligatory prayer. That is all. No MOG in Islam. Everybody on his own.
Please face the Christians seperately and face us seperately; our cases are miles apart.

point of correction, this is not copy and paste. and moreover, it does not only ask question on contradiction, it also ask questions on other. does ur religion not talk about the seven sins of man. is ur Alfa or other teachers of Quran free from sin? why did ur religion encourage fight? and many more
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by Nobody: 10:35pm On Feb 03, 2015
shalompeace007:
no sane man will like islam, even atheist prefers christianity to islam.

We muslims, my friend, have no interest in who 'likes' or does not 'like' Islam. Since we do not collect tithes, preside over no religious empire, and have little interest in the vanities of this world; like buying private jets; your beliefs, or lack thereof, are totally irrelevant to us. We do not seek your followership.

seggzz:

point of correction, this is not copy and paste. and moreover, it does not only ask question on contradiction, it also ask questions on other. does ur religion not talk about the seven sins of man.

No, each person is born in a state of 'fitrah' or purity. He/she is not held accountable for his/her deeds until he/she achieves the age of discernment... ability to tell right from wrong; then his/her actions are accounted for. The door of repentance for wrongful actions is always open. Repentance involves genuine regret for the misdeed, asking God for forgiveness, resolve to forsake it or not to repeat it, and making restitution in any practical way possible, towards any injured party. If repentance is genuine, then the bad record is cancelled. That is all. The concept of original sin or 7 sins (never heard of them) does not exist in Islam. Conversely, good deeds are also noted and rewarded, unless your intention is impure. For example, if you give out charity for people to praise you, then God does not reward you for it, since the reward that you seek is the praise from people, not His pleasure.

seggzz:

is ur Alfa or other teachers of Quran free from sin?


No, our Islamic scholars are ordinary men and women who devote their time to the study of Islamic sciences. They may specialise in the Quran sciences, eg Recitations, background and history of revelation, etc.; the Hadith sciences, eg authenticating narrators and their narrations etc, fiqh and Shari'a; which involve the extraction, interpretation and application of the Islamic civil and criminal rulings and pronouncements. They are academics who may issue their opinions based on their studies of the sources of Islamic law, but it is left to the individual to form his own opinions based on the evidence presented; using the brains that were given to him by God for this very purpose. Blind followership is discouraged in Islam... though I admit that lazy muslims often do it. A muslim scholar is a person who can sin/ err and muslims do not have any qualms in ticking them off when they do. We do not even believe that their supplication is any more effective than anyone else's. Only God knows who is pious and who is not.

seggzz:

why did ur religion encourage fight? and many more

Contrary to popular belief, Islam does not encourage fighting. It PERMITS it in circumstances of self defence, but prohibits muslims from being aggressors. If Islam had encouraged indiscriminate fighting, the 1.5billion muslims in the world today would have all been fighting, which is not the case. Islamic groups that do fight, often use an 'Islamic' cause to gain converts and to give their cause a veneer of righteousness. Their main cause is usually political or reactionary, and they rarely hide that fact. The media however, mainly strive to pander to public sensationalism by highlighting Islam when muslims commit violent acts and downplaying religion when non muslims; Andre Brevik for example; commit the same genre of violent acts.

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Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by Empiree: 10:54pm On Feb 03, 2015
Good one up there Abuamam. Didn't know you are a convert. When did you?. I wish to learn from that if you don't mind.
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by Nobody: 11:56pm On Feb 03, 2015
Am from estako edo state. If ya really know dere, u wld know dat islam is almost dead dere. In auchi, most of dem re converting, many of dem. Dey no longer see d religion as applicable as it used to be in dose primitive days! So many of ma towns people ve embraced christianity mostly catholic. Ma grand father was a muslim, he died a muslim, buh use to tell ma grandmum and mum dat women don't ve religion. And datz y I see ya religion as one dat is only male oriented. @ Empiree Rilwayne001 abuamam Tartar sometimes I laugh wen I see ya post on islam dat we don't know anytin. Bro, go ask abt islam and auchi and hear wad dey will tell ya. Its not dat we come online and bash ya guyz, nope we one way or d oda ve come accross ya religion or ve practiced it. Auchi edo state, prof oseni of unilorin is d chief imam of auchi. Buh now, most people re fast embracing christianity. Its d fact!
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 6:43pm On Feb 04, 2015
Abuamam:
Clay is the state from which the first man was originally created, ie Adam. It also refers metaphorically to the fact that all the constituents of clay/earth are found in the body of people... silicon, metals, carbon, water etc.

Fluid refers to the seminal fluid and ova that are involved in subsequent creations from a mother and a father.

As you can see, both verses are accurate, in as much as I can say that juice is made with fruit, and juice is made with water and juice is made with natural chemical compounds and the 3 statements are all true.

I do not have any interest in opening a debate of this kind here. Sorry.

there is difference in the two fluid(liquid) and clay(solid). don't just find way of decorating ur answer

can u just simply tell me which of this is the first Muslim? Abraham? moses? or Mohammed?
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 6:53pm On Feb 04, 2015
Abuamam:


We muslims, my friend, have no interest in who 'likes' or does not 'like' Islam. Since we do not collect tithes, preside over no religious empire, and have little interest in the vanities of this world; like buying private jets; your beliefs, or lack thereof, are totally irrelevant to us. We do not seek your followership.



No, each person is born in a state of 'fitrah' or purity. He/she is not held accountable for his/her deeds until he/she achieves the age of discernment... ability to tell right from wrong; then his/her actions are accounted for. The door of repentance for wrongful actions is always open. Repentance involves genuine regret for the misdeed, asking God for forgiveness, resolve to forsake it or not to repeat it, and making restitution in any practical way possible, towards any injured party. If repentance is genuine, then the bad record is cancelled. That is all. The concept of original sin or 7 sins (never heard of them) does not exist in Islam. Conversely, good deeds are also noted and rewarded, unless your intention is impure. For example, if you give out charity for people to praise you, then God does not reward you for it, since the reward that you seek is the praise from people, not His pleasure.




No, our Islamic scholars are ordinary men and women who devote their time to the study of Islamic sciences. They may specialise in the Quran sciences, eg Recitations, background and history of revelation, etc.; the Hadith sciences, eg authenticating narrators and their narrations etc, fiqh and Shari'a; which involve the extraction, interpretation and application of the Islamic civil and criminal rulings and pronouncements. They are academics who may issue their opinions based on their studies of the sources of Islamic law, but it is left to the individual to form his own opinions based on the evidence presented; using the brains that were given to him by God for this very purpose. Blind followership is discouraged in Islam... though I admit that lazy muslims often do it. A muslim scholar is a person who can sin/ err and muslims do not have any qualms in ticking them off when they do. We do not even believe that their supplication is any more effective than anyone else's. Only God knows who is pious and who is not.



Contrary to popular belief, Islam does not encourage fighting. It PERMITS it in circumstances of self defence, but prohibits muslims from being aggressors. If Islam had encouraged indiscriminate fighting, the 1.5billion muslims in the world today would have all been fighting, which is not the case. Islamic groups that do fight, often use an 'Islamic' cause to gain converts and to give their cause a veneer of righteousness. Their main cause is usually political or reactionary, and they rarely hide that fact. The media however, mainly strive to pander to public sensationalism by highlighting Islam when muslims commit violent acts and downplaying religion when non muslims; Andre Brevik for example; commit the same genre of violent acts.

surah 2:191-196 encouraged fights and allow jihad which means u are fighting for God. why fight for God?
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 10:14pm On Feb 04, 2015
Abuamam:
What concerns 'Imams' here?

Surah 7:143-......Glory be to You! I turn towards you and I am the first to believe. (moses statement and first Muslim)

Surah 6:163- .......I am the first submitting to Allah.( Mohammed statement and first Muslim)

Surah 2: 133- .....Abraham, Ismail and Isaac, the only one of God, and to him we submit

Oga Muslim, is this not confusion? or contradiction? How can Mohammed who is youngest of the two called himself first Muslim?
Re: Pastors And Imams Should Answer These by seggzz(m): 10:23pm On Feb 04, 2015
OREMUSSANCTUS:
Oga, point of correction. Aside christianity I don't know shit. Ma God is different from d moon god muslim worship. So pls no compare we and dem.

They still call it God and I have not seen any God who has heal the amputated patients. have u seen one? it's not testimony on paper ooooo. Their God does all what ur God does. Is God not one?

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