BobNeli:
Two many questions, no answers on the cunny attitude of our "face for change." the chatham house adress has come and gone, but one question that is left untreated is, why has the general who stood at chatham house to pose a question, "Will you reject a dictator," although he refused to add; one who overthrew a democratically elected government, representing the mandate of her people. "Who is now, a democracy convert?" Well, the most righteous answer to that question is "NO". Since our respective holly books advice us all on the need for forgiveness. But then, how do we acertain that the dictator is now a democracy convert? Consequently, one of the questions that beckons for attention becomes; "Why delivering such adress to a population who has no mandate to offer, while refusing by neglect, to honour the yearnings of the true population he is meant by his quest, to represent?" If Buhari could stand at chatham house to adress a congregation of foreigners, how he intends to run the affairs of his father land. Why did he refuse to lend such audience to the call by his compatriots, to deliver a debate with his opposition? I think this is a cynical show of impunity that still trails the general's blood. Words and actions are two diferent things. While words are deceitful, actions are sacrosanct.

Eggcelent:
Some relevant points you have raised there. However, I must say that as much as I agree with you that having a televised debate with President GEJ would have added something to the nation's democratic culture, I'll express my disagreement with you that his absence at such debates translates to impunity. The man has had town hall meetings in 3 places within the country. He has met with business as well as religious leaders. There have been no reports that attendance at these fora were limited to his supporters. I'll conclude by saying that impunity is when you as a leader decide to jettison the law and public opinion to pursue you personal agenda. Such can't be said of GMB in his conduct during this presidential campaign.

BobNeli:
Hence, wishing to lead a people, you will listen and adhere to their request and not just yours. Failure to do like-wise is tantamount to taking a walk. So if the people demanded for a public debate, but you snubbed the request only to organise town hall meetings, it is cynical and disrespect to their sense of importance. We are talking about the Buhari, we all know. A leopard does not hide its spots. Deception has been one art of politics that can never be ignored. Lets be rational in our judgements and eschew baiasness as a result of personal inclinations.

so goodluck jonathan is a saint??have you forgotten that goodluck jonathan did not attend the presidential debate at 2011??or you think people did not demand for a public debate from him?goodluck jonathan was busy discussing with DBANJ.. so funny....

please let us leave politics aside and say the truth for once...if you say buhari is a leopard then am saying goodluck jonathan is also a leopard too!!!end of story.....people minds are made up already debate or no debate...and by the way it is still the same sweet things they will say at debate,every naija politician knows how to say sweet things that nigerians love to hear but the problem is the implementation...so my own focus is on the implementation...

words without action is useless in governance,it is called useless empty blank promises...

Eggcelent:
BobNeli. I'll choose not to dispute with your view that Buhari's Town Hall meetings were stage-managed. However, I won't agree with you that there is a popular clamour for a Presidential debate among Nigerians. That is as far from the truth as you might wish to think.

wakacome:
so goodluck jonathan is a saint??have you forgotten that goodluck jonathan did not attend the presidential debate at 2011??or you think people did not demand for a public debate from him?please let us leave politics aside and say the truth for once...if you say buhari is a leopard then am saying goodluck jonathan is also a leopard too!!!end of story.....people minds are made up already debate or no debate...and by the way it is still the same sweet things they will say at debate,every naija politician knows how to say sweet things that nigerians love to hear but the problem is the implementation...so my own focus is on the implementation...

words without action is useless in governance,it is called useless empty blank promises...

whitecat2:
Rubbish!!!

wakacome:
[b]First of all it is obvious you did not pay full attention to his speeches or maybe your sentimental and biased way of reasoning did not allow you to listen to him carefully which would have made you to clearly and intelligently understand what he is saying...

Also For your information the town-hall meetings that buhari is doing is better than the debate organized in nigeria,at those debates nigerians are not allowed to ask aspirants direct questions the way they want ,but at a town-hall meeting people will be allowed to ask any sort of questions.......

But the NEDG debate has become politicized and the questions the panelist do ask most of the time is not really the questions nigerians want to ask.....

I watched a particular townhall meetings with buhari and you need to see the way buhari was bombarded with so many questions,some even asked him questions that no one would even have the guts to ask.....and he answered every questions...but buhari's accent is very funny...

But at the debate the case is different a debate whereby they will be asked few questions and they are not even able to give full details of their answers to the question asked because they do use "timing"for them and when the bell rings you have to stop talking and that can be very annoying to a lot of viewers.........that is my own opinion as a nigerian...



But as someone that wants to vote for buhari I will have to say

Sai change
Sai buhari
Sai better nigeria[/b]

wakacome:
so goodluck jonathan is a saint??have you forgotten that goodluck jonathan did not attend the presidential debate at 2011??or you think people did not demand for a public debate from him?goodluck jonathan was busy discussing with DBANJ.. so funny....

please let us leave politics aside and say the truth for once...if you say buhari is a leopard then am saying goodluck jonathan is also a leopard too!!!end of story.....people minds are made up already debate or no debate...and by the way it is still the same sweet things they will say at debate,every naija politician knows how to say sweet things that nigerians love to hear but the problem is the implementation...so my own focus is on the implementation...

words without action is useless in governance,it is called useless empty blank promises...

BobNeli:
Is your name not whitecat? Your contributions to salient issues only depicts your person. You either have nothing to contribute or live in illusions. Just as a humanbeing, you chosed to be known cat.

Eggcelent:
"Because I have lived in this country atleast for the past four months now." Where have you been residing Bro @BobNeli?

whitecat2:
Yada yada yada!!
Atleast I make more sense than you!
What you wrote is thrashed period, you can go and hang yourself eediott!

BobNeli:
Exihibition

wakacome:
so goodluck jonathan is a saint??have you forgotten that goodluck jonathan did not attend the presidential debate at 2011??or you think people did not demand for a public debate from him?goodluck jonathan was busy discussing with DBANJ.. so funny....

please let us leave politics aside and say the truth for once...if you say buhari is a leopard then am saying goodluck jonathan is also a leopard too!!!end of story.....people minds are made up already debate or no debate...and by the way it is still the same sweet things they will say at debate,every naija politician knows how to say sweet things that nigerians love to hear but the problem is the implementation...so my own focus is on the implementation...

words without action is useless in governance,it is called useless empty blank promises...

BobNeli:
Please, with due respect my brother, how many people do you represent? Far from insults. How indeed can you acertain that people's minds are already made up? Already made up on who? Goodluck or Buhari? Have you noticed recently on certain posts, where people denounced their allegiance to whom they were suporting to adopt another? Even amongst the party highrachy, crossing capets. That statement is not right. Also, may I remind us that two wrongs can never make a right. If Goodluck Jonathan did not attend debate in 2011, but we all know the importance of such debates and would as well, want our prospective leaders to come out and enlighten us about their manifestoes. Would it be right to dismiss it on the grounds that someone in the irrecoverable past commited such a blunder? Remember, no one is mandated on this. But the eyes have your actions under watch and must equip the mind with informations to work on. So we are talking about the reliability of the promises beeing made by our would be representatives.

Boss13:
Good points raised. I still wonder why Buhari refused to honour national debates but I also understand his concerns. Our media is very bias and can swing to the highest bidder. I also think the Chatham speech was not just for foreigners, he also spoke to Nigerians.

To me - in the bad lots of rotten eggs, Buhari is a better rotten egg. He has told us what he stands for. Anti-corruption, integrity and transparency. Now the society will judge him based on that.

My other concern is Jonathan - we seem not to understand him and his piecemeal projects. I am also afraid that if he wins we will continue to witness a huge disparity between the real nigeria and the nigeria on newspaper.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
big fool, y didn't he accept d channels tv challenge? Guy go germinate some wisdom, ya lack it bro!

Can't you make your point without insults??must you always behave like a hopeless goat??some people may say you are behaving like a foolish man,they may say you talk like a foolish man,they may say you act like a foolish man,they may say you think like a foolish man,but the truth is is that "YOU ARE TRULY FOOLISH..."

wakacome:
Can't you make your point without insults??must you always behave like an slowpoke??some people may say you are behaving like a foolish man,they may say you talk like a foolish man,they may say you act like a foolish man,they may say you think like a foolish man but the truth which they do not know is that "YOU ARE TRULY FOOLISH..."

OREMUSSANCTUS:
wen ya steal a quote ya reference d person. Am done wif ya till ya correct yaself. Feeling like a superman cos ya just said nonsense. Go germinate some wisdom bro

wakacome:
My good friend you made a very good point but what I am saying is that it is not just making promises but implementing what they promised is the problem that our leaders have,they will tell us the same story bla bla bla but to implement it becomes a problem,they will promise us this promise us that but at the end what do they do?they don't keep all their promises.......at the debate they keep telling us the same stories we have been hearing for years...

Just like the singer(2face) said in one of his songs**singing**e be like say dem wan too tell another story again ni oooooo......

StunningCEO:
change is here. let us get this chance.

StunningCEO:
change is here. let us get this chance.

BobNeli:
That kind of statement corroborates the idea and manner of our face for change. You remember, "I have atleast N1m in my account" that does not mean, i have been living ouside the shores before that time frame. Just to remind you that I have been into it since the inception of election campaigns.

BobNeli:
. Thanks for your highlights. But my brother, can we actually realise that we are in 2015. And that the mistakes of 2011 should not be allowed to scuttle our dreams for 2015 and henceforth. Do you realize that the Buhari of 2011 is likely not going to be same as the Buhari of 2015? Asuming withing this lapse of 4yrs, our dear general became incapacitated, as we all know, age is no longer on his side. Maybe by way of mental degradation and its likes, wount it be futile on our part to entrust our mandate for a better future in an unconfirmed entity? The debate was quite one of the best ways to acertain his understanding of the responsibilities he would be shouldering for me and you. He denied us that opportunity, and here we are keeping blind eyes just in other not to contradict ourselves on things we have already wished to accept as truths. Negligence of duty can never take away it's consequencies. Let's always realise what we are doing to avoid crying over a spilt milk.

Eggcelent:
. Can you kindly clarify your above statements? Meanwhile, I assumed at the start of this thread that you were interested in an unbiased discussion. However, I've seen from your recent posts that you are a marketer of the Jonathan candidacy. Hence, you may not be absolutely objective in your contributions. Nothing wrong with that as it is your inalienable right under a democratic government to hold your own view. In conclusion, I must commend the civility with which you have responded to all issues herein raised. Such is rare on this platform.