Ifeann:
One says love and peace

The other says slaughter and fight

Yet these muslims refuse peace..

And they wonder why most islamic country is a mess and in chaos

Then they blame the jews/zionists/USA

Muslims be funny ..Muslims be ignorant

truthman2012:


This is the problem with islam. The religion has two faces: peace and violence and it is impossible to practice both simultaneously. But there are more calls to violence than peace as allah wants people forced to his religion. Those Yoruba muslims who hold on to peace alone are not true muslims by islamic standard and there is no point wasting their time in it. Allah cannot be pleased with them.

Ifeann:


When I said one says love and peace I meant christianity. .

Islam knows nothing about love..

However muslims are told to be peaceful amongst themselves..

They only know a few nice quotes from warner Mohammed which was abrogated by warrior Mohammed. .

truthman2012:
Since your nature resists the requirements for islam as Yorubas, you have no business being muslims. Besides, you cannot please the god of islam if you can obey only a part and not the whole of islamic injunctions, which include violence of all sorts.

Come out of among them and embrace the Man of PEACE, Jesus.

Peace I leave with you; my
peace I give to you. I do not
give to you as the world
gives. Do not let your hearts
be troubled and do not be
afraid (John 14:27).

Those are words of comfort from Jesus, he didn't prescribe wars and trouble for you. Come to him today, he loves you. Try him and you will enjoy the difference here and hereafter.

Binb:
OP How about these verses in the Bible:

Numbers 31:17-18
Now kill all the boys (in Midian). And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Judges 21:10-12
So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.” They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.

1 Samuel 6:19
And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: [/b]and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

[b]Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Luke 12:49
"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!

Matthew 10:34
" Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

Ifeann:

I won't explain the old testament verses for 3 reasons

1. It requires understanding of the inner and historical context as well as symbolic context and theology. .Muslims and atheists seem to not understand it no matter how it is explained

But I will address the new testament verses
[size=5pt]Matthew 10:34-35
King James Version (KJV)

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

U didnt quote the verse 34 with 35 because it explains the proper context. Most atheists and Muslims avoid 35.
This is one of the verses Christ tells believers what to expect if we decide to follow him. And it is actually happening.
Muslims kill their family members if a member decides to leave Islam and become Christians, its in their sh'aria law. You know of the case in Sudan where a man reported his own sister for being a christain and she was sentenced to death. But as God would have it she is alive and well in the USA today. Even in Nigeria, in the time of the missionaries fathers disowned sons who abandoned serving their traditional deity and went to church. Even communists killed whole families for their believe in Christ. The use of the word "sword" is clearly a metaphor. And just as the verse proclaimed their is no peace on earth because the kingdom is yet to come.[/size]

true2god:
Yourubas, by nature, love life and partying and would not like dying unnecessarily. An average arab does not love life, humour or partying so to them (the arabs), life is meaningless.

Hence you can see arab-muslim suicide bomber, but a yorubaman cant do it. You can easily see arab-muslims cutting throats of infidels but yoruba cant do it. You can see arab-muslims killing apostates but to the yoruba, religion is like political party where you can defect at anytime without qualms.

An arab muslim can burn churches if slightly offended but a yoruba muslim gat no time for that. A yoruba-muslim can give his daughter to a yoruba christian in marriage, but an arab-muslim will kill his daughter (honour killings) for dating a christian.

Ironically, yoruba-muslims are regarded as fake and hypocrites for not behaving like the arab-muslims (which the hausa and fulanis do) hence not following the foot-steps on the islamic prophet (peace be upon me).

Empiree:
Yea, exactly the way you dont understand such verses in the Quran. You only take pleasure from quoting them for ONE REASON (to oscillate ignorant folks from Islam). But if Muslims quote violent verses from your OT & NT, you find excuses. Call your brain to order.

Yes, my point exactly! "explanation" but those guys runing behind your skirt dont think. They do follow follow.....

Now get this in you head. We dont need to be educated on your Bible. Its all depends on approach. Your approach to Islam warrant 100% identical backlash until you start using your brain.

Muslims dont think God ordered ancient people to just kill for no reason. We perfectly understood. But if fanatic Christians like you and your cohorts think they can frustrate Islamic texts, then we will do the same to yours. Simple as ABC...Get that?

I give you example, in this video, a christian caller called a muslim preacher. He didnt call to have educative dialogue. He called to force his religion on Muslim preacher to accept some stup*d doctrines. He would not even let the preacher speak. He was just talking nonstop. Indeed he's a true definition of madness. This is second caller, a young man.

First caller appears to be older, he didn't call to have nice dialogue either. Instead he threatened Muslim preacher and accused him of using "juju" to convert Christians.

Third caller, a woman and a christian, @ 25:00 said right away to Muslim preacher, "sir, don't bother yourself, we know Islam is the only way". This woman made preacher's day smoother after those l*natics Christians. Then she explained her grievances towards Islam with perfect misunderstanding and brainwashing by christian extremists like you. She eventually agreed to meet Muslim preacher and take shahada (declaration of faith). Now listen to this. She (caller) raised political question and Muslim preacher asked her if Bible orders christian to kill?. The woman said "YES". But Muslim preacher said no. He said "violence" in the bible are historically connected....exactly like you tried to make people believe. It's the same with those verses in the Quran. So you think you know better than muslims ifeann?. You are hypocrite.

Fourth caller wasted no time. She took shahadah right away and brought her family to Islam. Now, if you care to watch and listen, here is 40mins clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ib0IF7jnWQ
I know you can care less to watch...that's why I typed out briefly. The clip is also for others. See your brothers in violence... so called God-loving people in the clip.

What you people do including truthman2012 is you do not defend your basic theology or doctrine. You want to paint Islam black and get people accept Paul's crooked doctrine called Christianity. You shied away from defending "trinity" or your "3-headedgod". Here are the threads for you and others to see:
https://www.nairaland.com/2153126/top-ten-signs-youre-fundamentalist/8
https://www.nairaland.com/2170642/1-john-5-7-pure

And also this thread where you denied Bible after 9jaforlife destroyed your arguments.
https://www.nairaland.com/2164402/non-muslims-only-jesus-mohammed/2

You disappeared from defending "trinity".^^

You also ran away and derailed this thread after i exposed Paul, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John about your Bible corruptions, written by UNKNOWN and spurious people.

So far, your only strategy is you quote certain verses from Quran and hadith to "win" your day. Same thing op, truthman2012 just did. Bible writers rendered Christianity "law-free" religion. This is false.

Also you talked about Muhammad (peace be upon him) waged wars. No one or 12 tribes of Jacob in the time Jesus (peace be upon him) mobilized army against him....so it was perfectly okay for Jesus(p) not to wage war. He seemed to have battled only 'war' of "heart and mind". He was not like Moses (peace be upon him). Moses(p) also waged wars because Pharaoh waged wars on him. Muhammad(p) also waged war because he faced unlimited challenges from many tribes who aged wars on him. So he should fold his arms and just watch?. Get your head straight. Typical example of this is your other thread where you accused our prophet Muhammad(s.a.w) for killing "900 Jews" but you failed post the whole story....that the Jewish tribe attacked innocent Muslims men, women and children who were unarmed. You ran off from the thread after I exposed you.

Now, since you love quoting ahadith so much, didn't you ever come across where Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) talks about return of Jesus...that he will return and mobilize Muslim army against Dajjal (the false messiah) and his followers i:e those who rejected him and those who worshiped him like you and others?. You never came across the hadith?. Or you want me to post it here for people to see. Why do you skip that?. Jesus(p) will return in the Last Age and wage WAR.

And don't forget those threads you dodged. You have never defended your faith against Muslims. All you said was "they're ignorant" referring to Muslims. But you wasted no time posting nonsense about Muhammad(p). Your bone of contention is always to paint white black. YOU ARE HYPOCRITE.

vooks:
What are you saying in the fewest words possible?

Empiree:
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MuttleyLaff:

Why did Ustauz Yusuf have to say the 1st caller, obviously an elder, has no manners or had no home training lessons

Why is Ustauz Yusuf particularly concerned if the 2nd caller is a pastor, a prophet or what church the caller fellowships in

Why did Ustauz Yusuf at 12:40 had to say the 2nd caller is stewpid or silly (i.e. ani e go)
and insinuating at 13:09 - 13:15 that the 2nd caller is an animal that doesnt want to listen

Why did at 22:12 - 22:43, 24:05, 24:25-24:31 Ustauz Yusuf had to say "this is what is called a demonstration of madness" at the 2nd caller's prayers

The 3rd caller was a drive-by "christian", an Islam returnee, returning back to Islam

Concerning Boko Haram raised by 3rd caller at 27.24- 27.26,
Ustauz Yusuf at 27:34- 27:41 asked the 3rd caller whether or not Boko Haram kills muslims and non muslims at all

Also at 28:00 - 28:16 Ustauz Yusuf wanted to know of any cases of Muslims killing Christian in Yoruba land in the name of Islam

but Ustauz Yusuf, unwittingly at 27:41, actually was about confirming truthman2012's submission that if going by Bukhari (60:80) and Bukhari (59:643), Yorubas like Ustauz Yusuf and the 3rd caller have no place to be in Islam

Truth be told, this guy, Ustauz Yusuf, is a smooth talker/operator...
+ mixing up Americans waging war against terrorism etc, Delta militants fighting against environmental pollution, oppression etc with Religion (i.e. ''esin'')
+ mixing up Judaism with Christianity
+ mixing up Christian RELIGION with the Christian FAITH & LOVE
+ mentioning bible verses is not the same as understanding the religious system etc prevailing at the particular time of those bible verses
+ mixing up A christian alleged claim to commit atrocities with muslims actually commituing atrocities
+ claiming to judge the Bible on its words or content but evasive to judge the Quran on its word or content
+ claimed to not force any to Islam but Sahih Muslim (1:33) and Bukhari (60:80) says otherwise
+ how is it that the last prophet and the Quran have some many socially unacceptable baggages taken advantage of in the 21 century?
+ distorting baptisms to 3rd caller, gave a misleading or false impression that it is an opportunity to caress women SMH LOL

The 3rd caller should have counter asked Ustauz Yusuf how many Christians in the 21st century,
shout Praise the Lord, the Lord is Good when killing harmless people or when about decimating innocent people

Depicting the 3rd caller and dedicating it to her, is this pic of the thread below

true2god:
Thanks for this break-down and your time doing the analysis.

[s]Empire is a fake muslim, because yoruba muslim is regarded fake (or to close to christianity)[/s].

Empiree:
you obviously didn't listen to the clip or deceiving yourself before typing poo. Christianity?. that fabricated religion?. Yusuf and many others trashed it.

MuttleyLaff, you damn sure you twisted stuff. That's your problem. Oh i see your moniker is suspicious. Na u sabi.

true2god:
[s]You are an al-taqiyya artist. In a national forum like this, you attached an audio message in yoruba language with the believ that one one will take time to analyse it.

Why is arab-muslims murderous and yoruba muslims are not? Answer the question bros.[/s]

Binb:
OP How about these verses in the Bible:

Numbers 31:17-18
Now kill all the boys (in Midian). And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Judges 21:10-12
So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.” They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.

1 Samuel 6:19
And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: [/b]and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

[b]Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Luke 12:49
"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!

Matthew 10:34
" Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."