Wizydom144:
Mandeyy......keep educating him....just educate him wella...
Also tell him that dental surgeons study medicine, surgery (including anastesiology, opthalmolgy, cadiothoracic, pediatric surgery, etc), pharmacology and therapeutics, pathology, basic Med sci, and also have to study restorative dentistry,peadiatrics, preventive and community dentistry, and oral and maxillofacial surgery (including its diagnoses, radiology, medicine and its pathology).........
Tell him that all this are studied simultaneously in 6yrs, such that a dental surgeon is not just a doctor but a special type of doctor.....a dentist!! Or dental surgeon as it is fondly called....
Tell him that a medical doctor studies medicine and surgery, but a dental surgeon studies medicine, surgery and dentistry at same time.....
Tell him that dentistry is not just teeth but the specialty that deals with the medicine, pathology, diagnoses, radiology and surgery of the oral cavity, that maxillo and facial region, the head and some part of the neck.....
Tell him that apart from the dental clinic and an oral maxillofacial units, that in every plastic surgery unit of any standard hospital like uch for instance, that we have a dentist who specialized in oral maxillo facial surgery being among the frontiers of plastic and aesthetic team.....
Tell him that some specialties in dentistry is part of emedicine( emmergency med) ask him how many emmergencies hv been encountered in optometry...
Tell him that there's a field called forensic dentistry for criminal cases and identification during mass accident and fire outbreak like bombing and plane crash....it was one of the measures taken by luth in identification of corpses after dana plane crash.......
Tell him that dentistry re not in the clinic to count teeth...

Just nine dental schools in nigeria, and u say there's no prospect for a country with billions of pple....ah! Oga think nah.....
They re special type of doctors......a doctor and a surgeon at same time
All dentists are doctors but not all doctors are dentists......

Mandeyy:
@ Originbm, as i was saying, Prof. Chima Oji 1st studied medicine b4 obtaining anoda degree in dentistry (cos he loves dentistry). Have u ever seen a medical doctor studying optometry? Tell me. Optometry comes from optics (eye-related refraction of lens) and metron (measurement) in physics. British Dentists wanting to bear d title "dr" always state dat their patients do think dat an American dentist who bears d title "dr" and is practising in d UK is more qualified dan they (without realizing dat it's almost d same training). It has nothing to do with denigration. In Britain (Scotland is part of it), only doctors and dentists have d rights and privileges to admit, treat, manage and discharge a patient and not an optometrist. They even belong to d same Royal College of Surgeons (RCS) as their medical surgeon colleague, which is called FFDRCS (fellow, faculty of dentistry of d royal college of surgeons). This fellowship is got after a number of years of residency as their medical colleagues. Ignorance is bad.

Mandeyy:
@ Originbm, as i was saying, Prof. Chima Oji 1st studied medicine b4 obtaining anoda degree in dentistry (cos he loves dentistry). Have u ever seen a medical doctor studying optometry? Tell me. Optometry comes from optics (eye-related refraction of lens) and metron (measurement) in physics. British Dentists wanting to bear d title "dr" always state dat their patients do think dat an American dentist who bears d title "dr" and is practising in d UK is more qualified dan they (without realizing dat it's almost d same training). It has nothing to do with denigration. In Britain (Scotland is part of it), only doctors and dentists have d rights and privileges to admit, treat, manage and discharge a patient and not an optometrist. They even belong to d same Royal College of Surgeons (RCS) as their medical surgeon colleague, which is called FFDRCS (fellow, faculty of dentistry of d royal college of surgeons). This fellowship is got after a number of years of residency as their medical colleagues. Ignorance is bad.

originbm:


I gave established facts and you are giving me opinion of people. Is dentistry not 4 yrs in pakistan? Are dentists doctors in uk? Answer the questions. There are many countries where dentists are not recognized as doctors. Professional harmonization is lacking in dentistry so stop yakking. U guys are doctorsonly where medicine's politics has favoured you. With Medicine's support u r still poor and insignificant. If medicine withdraws their support from u, even lab technicians will do better than you.

Mandeyy:
Even in Pakistan, there is one body 4 d two: Pakistan medical and dental council. It's just in Nigeria alone. I have told u why a dentist is addressed as a mr, mr or miss and u're doubting. U're irredeemable. All surgeons in Britain (weda u're a dental surgeon or medical surgeon) are called misters. Dentistry and surgery as a whole started from barber surgeons. I don't know y u hate d truth. Or does optometry also belong to royal college of surgeons as dentists?

Mandeyy:
@ Originbm, d former provost, college of health sciences, obafemi awolowo univesity and d new vice chancellor of d same university, Prof. Eyitope Ogunbodede, is a dentist. See d links: http://dailypost.ng/2017/05/08/eyitope-ogunbodede-emerges-new-oau-vc/ and https://www.nairaland.com/3786746/eyitope-ogunbodede-obafemi-awolowo-universitys They are numerous but just a few were mentioned here. D fmr NMA, Edo State, Dr Philip Ugbodaga, is a dentist, Dr Gbujie Daniel, associate member, world medical association and fmr secretary general, national association of resident doctors, is a dentist; Dr Linda Iheme who broke d highest record in d college of medicine and scored 6 distinctions in d overall result of medical and dental students at UNIBEN, is a dentist; Prof. Ogunlewe, d past CMAC, LUTH, is a dentist. Every time, indigent Nigerians suffering from oral and maxillofacial diseases, esp. oral and facial benign and malignant tumors (cancers), cleft lips and palates, facial trauma, are begging for free surgery.

Mandeyy:
@ Originbm, those dat studied dentistry after a medical degree: http://www.geneeskundeboek.nl/oxford-handbook-of-oral-and-maxillofacial-surgery In Nigeria, Dr Chikwendu Ejike (a dentist and consultant oral and maxillofacial surgeon) and his dental team removed this oral tumor known as ameloblastoma in a surgery called "hemimaxillectomy" in Owerri, Imo State: http://www.nationalhelm.net/2016/12/see-what-doctors-removed-from-mouth-of.html?m=1 and Dr Seidu Bello (a dentist): http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/group-renders-free-services-maxillofacial-patients-minna/ Also see dat of Dr Sunday Obimakinde (a dentist and chairman, Nigeria Medical Associatio, Ekiti State) did: https://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/201/5/11/free-surgeries-for-tumour-patients-in-ekiti and http://ekitistate.gov.ng/2012/08/fasuba-charges-nma-on-capacity-building/ This is just to tell dat oral and maxillofacial diseases abound in Nig but d trtments are costly. It has to be subsidized by govt and well-meaning Nigerians.

originbm:


Maxillo facial surgery is an occult specialty, as far as Nigeria is concerned, not to talk of its profitability. How many profitable locums does a dental surgeon run in a yr? That's y u guys fight for federal jobs as if its ur lifeline. Goodluck on removing ameloblastomas in vanguard in the future. Just make sure a public hidpital gat ur back.

Mandeyy:
A public hospital dat a dentist can be d CMD of? U lack sense. Google oral and facial cancers dat Nigerian maxillofacial surgeons have removed over d yrs. In an accident and emergency dept of any hospital, be it Nigeria or abroad, it's an oral surgeon dat surgically and medically treats accident victim with facial trauma. I've given u a list of dentists who are achievers; at least, Dr T.A.B. Sanusi (a dentist) is still d registrar of Medical & dental council. Just google oral & maxillofacial surgery in Nigeria. Stop blind arguments. Dentistry and surgery as a whole started from barber surgeons. Google it.

Mandeyy:
A public hospital dat a dentist can be d CMD of? U lack sense. Google oral and facial cancers dat Nigerian maxillofacial surgeons have removed over d yrs. In an accident and emergency dept of any hospital, be it Nigeria or abroad, it's an oral surgeon dat surgically and medically treats accident victim with facial trauma. I've given u a list of dentists who are achievers; at least, Dr T.A.B. Sanusi (a dentist) is still d registrar of Medical & dental council. Just google oral & maxillofacial surgery in Nigeria. Stop blind arguments. Dentistry and surgery as a whole started from barber surgeons. Google it.

Mandeyy:
@ Originbm, let me tell u why medicine and dentistry belong to d same body in most parts of d world, or have equal rights and privileges: it's 'cos dentistry is a branch of medicine. Optometry is not a branch of medicine, just like med lab, med radiography, med rehabilitation, etc are not branches of medicine. Optometry, like d ones i mentioned above, is an allied health science trained to be a support staff to doctors. Dental students do d same courses (pathology & pharmacology) with d medical students in 400 level. It's called 3rd MBBS/BDS. Even if u do these two courses in optometry, it's not well detailed. Both will sit 4 d same exam, with d same marking. After dat, dental students will also do their courses and still take anoda 3rd BDS. Then in 500 level, they will do medicine & surgery with 600 level medical students. This involves clinical rotations through the medical and surgical depts except obst & gynaecology, paediatrics & psychiatry. Thereafter, u will be tested clinically as part of d exam.

originbm:


Which queue!!! Your dentists create artificial scarcity by refusing to see patients. Mr man go and rest! Pls go and sample private hospitals for the reality. Dental clinics having a queue? Dont kill me with laugh...U think I hv not researched b4 writing? Dont worry your eye will soon be clear.

originbm:


Mr man for the record, and I am sorry to say it u sound dumb...since a dentist being a cmd amounts to lucrativeness of dentistry, tell ur peopke to take 100 dentistal students in one year per school. You brag that you are the owners of teeth, no problems. Optometrists and ophthalmologists both treat eye diseases but the eye care professions whether optometry or ophthalmology are still far more lucrative than dentistry. I'ld rather be a medical radiographer than a dentist.
You guys still trudge around looking for space for residency. Pls stop speakibg thrash.

originbm:


My brother, Chikwendu Ejike did well to advertise in vanguard, Sunday Obimakande also did well. That's not my headache. If they like let them remove a lion's teeth from a spider's anus, that is their 10 kobo. Maxillo facial surgery is an occult specialty, as far as Nigeria is concerned, not to talk of its profitability. How many profitable locums does a dental surgeon run in a yr? That's y u guys fight for federal jobs as if its ur lifeline. Goodluck on removing ameloblastomas in vanguard in the future. Just make sure a public hidpital gat ur back.

originbm:


You are imputing facts that are irrelevant. Optometry has never been a branch of medicine. Optometry is an INDEPENDENT healthcare profession that developed along its own lines. Not every profession has to hug or invoke the name of medicine to get relevance. I dont have to study nedicine to study pathology and pharmacology in details.Optometrists not only study pathology, they study ocular pathology which dentistry will never dream of doing. With all your pathology and pharmacology can u handle the simplest ocular presentation....even simple hyperopia. Can u differentiate between type1and type 2 optic discs? What do u know about ocular biochemistry. Can u understand the simplest ophthalmic prescription...mr doctor can u even do one ocular diagnostic proceedure... can u interprete a phoria graph....can u do an ophthalmic work-up or even measure ophthalmic vitals? Are u even sane....Go and do your nonsense in teeth extraction, you are only a "doctor" in teeth. In eyes you are not a doctor, u know next to nothing. You are proud in ignorance. An optometry doctor writes not 1 but 3 kinds of prescription
1.drugs
2.ophthalmic prescription
2.Low vision prescriptions.
You are rattling nonsense. You did pathology, so . Do u know anything in neuropathology? Even an mbbs holder cannot challenge an OD in opthalmic practice, how much less a dentist. Even your teeth consultants cannot challenge an ordinary OD not to talk of an optometry consultant. An optometrist is trained in the diagnosis and treatment of ocular conditions. Undergo a training not identical but which might even be more gruelling than that of dentistry. So dont tell me thrash.

It is funny that all your claim for greatness is because u r in the same faculty with medicine. Will medicine claim greatness because they are in the same faculty with dentistry? Impossible. U guys a poor, poor spongers.
Use ur wikipedia. OPTOMETRISTS A DOCTORS. IN NIGERIA THEY ARE DOCTORS. IN HEALTH CARE DATABASE THEY ARE DOCTORS. THEY DIAGNOSE, TREAT, REHABILITATE OCULAR CONDITIONS, PLUS SYSTEMIC CONDITIONS WITH OCULAR PRESENTATION. DO CLINICAL ANALYSIS, INTERPRETE RESULTS AND REFER WHEN NECESSARY AND USE A BATTALION OF OCULAR PROCEEDURES. Like you are mere teeth doctors, they are eye doctors. Everything you can do in teeth they can do on eye, with the only exception of surgery. In A merica and Canada optometrists perform surgery. And surgery makes up only 5% of treatment modules in Nigeria. Go and look up optometry and stop speaking thrash. IF U WANT TO SEE OPTOMETRY DONT GO TO PUBLIC HOSPITALS WHERE POLITICS DETERMINES WHO DOES WHAT, GO TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. OPTOMETISTS OWN THE LARGEST EYE CLINICS IN NIGERIA. DENTISTRY IS POOR SIMPLE.