johnydon22:


So what were you proposing... Asin your conviction.. lets take it one after the other..

MzNelly:


I believe in a God.

Do you?

johnydon22:


Trees are living beings but a table made from trees is not a living being.. gerrit?

johnydon22:

Nope i don't..

So why do you believe in a God and which of the God(s) humanity worship do you believe in?

theAtheist101:


You are not getting the point. A car-like Living object can evolve from something.

MzNelly:


Lol.

Why don't you?

johnydon22:


And what do you mean by car-like?

@bolded something cannot be an object and a living being at the same time. Objects are not living things.

johnydon22:


first it is unprovable, only confined to the dimension of "faith" which itself as you know is the denial of reason and acceptance of implausible things as true..

so now answer my own question.

So why do you believe in a God and which of the God(s) humanity
worship do you believe in??

theAtheist101:


Really? Check your dictionary for the definition of object. How did your living things become living things?

johnydon22:

lol... You really need to read more.. living beings are not objects ..

and what do you mean by car-like please?

MzNelly:


I'm too beautiful to just dismiss the fact that I dont have a creator.

MzNelly:

The things around me testify His existence,

MzNelly:

The Bible too is solid proof.

MzNelly:

Sometimes, we don't need to see to believe.

theAtheist101:


Dictionary definition of an object:

1.
anything that is visible or tangible and is relatively stable in form.
2.
a thing, person, or matter to which thought or action is directed:
an object of medical investigation.

Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/object

Answer my question: How did your living things come about?

johnydon22:
lmao...and this your creator is too ugly not to have a creator? Now take a look at it this way. . if everything complex needs a creator then something super complex as the idea (God) can pop out on its own, it must need a creator and that creator too must also need a creator.. so its a chain of infinite regress.
and how does the things around do this?
The bible? seriously thats really a bad one... its like saying spider man exists, this comic book proves it. . .

So then how come if i tell you a pink flying unicorn created the world, you wouldn't believe this.

Its clear you believe the christian concept of god; How come you disbelief other god concepts like allah, zeus, el, ea etc?

MzNelly:


The Bible isn't just a comic book.

The things contained in it are enough to make anyone believe.

MzNelly:


I'm too beautiful to just dismiss the fact that I dont have a creator.

The things around me testify His existence,

The Bible too is solid proof.

Sometimes, we don't need to see to believe.

johnydon22:


Really? like creating day and night on the first day and then the sun on the fourth day..?

johnydon22:


and this was what i was trying to avoid, when he takes the discussion out of context... the second definition is not related to the topic ..

I do not know how any thing came to be, i wasnt there

so now boy, tell me what you mean by car-like

MzNelly:


It goes deeper than that.

theAtheist101:


Sorry for coming into your argument. Your beauty is not a result of god's work, but as a result of the care you gave your skin. Except for disabilities, which is as a result of chance, the cosmetics you use help defines your beauty. Some parents never used creams on their children, while some use baby jelly.

johnydon22:


Nope, tell me... Do you believe that day and night was created the first day and then the sun on the fourth day?

theAtheist101:
I

Why argue when you don't know the true meaning of living.

MzNelly:


Where are you going with this?

davien:
Mznelly... Ignoring the fact that beauty of your physique is relative( I.e not universal), how does one make a statement that beauty equals a "creator"?...does that mean anything not apparently beautiful has none?

Using your logic since these creatures are mostly regarded as ugly they have no creator then?

I didn't mean physical beauty tho.

I mean the beauty of the hands, what they can do, of their ears, nose, legs, the stomach and functions it carries out, the excretory, circulatory and reproductive system.

Ever heard of the phrase "I am wonderfully made."

We all are, and it isn't just as a result of chance.

That is seriously laughable,

johnydon22:


You said the bible is enough to make anyone believe, so since a book is the basis of your belief, i want us to scrutinize that book and it's plausibilities.

Do you believe that day and night was created four days before the sun?

MzNelly:


Em....I'm confused.

MzNelly:


I didn't mean physical beauty tho.

I mean the beauty of the hands, what they can do, of their ears, nose, legs, the stomach and functions it carries out, the excretory, circulatory and reproductive system.

Ever heard of the phrase "I am wonderfully made."

We all are, and it isn't just as a result of chance.

That is seriously laughable,

johnydon22:

lol. . . i thought the bible is enough to make someone believe.. How come even you dont believe such glaring implausibility?

theAtheist101:

In your mind you're created beautifully, because you love yourself and human so much. Imagine being a monkey wouldn't you like your "beauty".
We developed those parts out of the need for them. Just as a fish has its fins and so on. Just one tiny mistake in the gene can create something new. There are babies with five toes and/or fingers, guys with dick and pussy, etc. These are proves of evolution. Something goes wrong for either good or bad.

MzNelly:

I didn't mean physical beauty tho.

I mean the beauty of the hands, what they can do, of their ears, nose, legs, the stomach and functions it carries out, the excretory, circulatory and reproductive system.

Ever heard of the phrase "I am wonderfully made."

We all are, and it isn't just as a result of chance.

That is seriously laughable,

johnydon22:


Stil taking my posts out of context please stop the straw man fallacy... I said i do not know how anything started how does this mean i do not know what it means for something to be living? please dont ever quote me out of context again and never you employ straw man on me when discussing with me...

moreover why do you avoid my question.

[size=20] what do you mean by car-like[/size] please answer that

davien:
okay

So you refer to function?
If that is the case then why would you have vestigial body parts?...why would your dna be riddled with jumping genes that if they found their way(which they do) into your dna you'd end up with a mutation?

yes I have...."fearfully and wonderfully made", it's how the bible tags you as "god did it"

You keep bringing up "chance" as though anyone ever presented it as his/her case not that it's impossible...

Arrange your posts so that i'd know what you meant here.