Jaypea98:

Read about mohammed and his coerce ways of integating people into islam and how he collected 25% of all the spoils of raids on rich men in carav
ans . Dont tell me ISIS and Al Quieda isnt muslim

omokab:
This is one of thise things we have been telling about understanding Islam.prophet Muhammed(SAW) have never force anybody to join islam.It is clearly written in the holy book that there is no compulsion in my religion(that is islam),What you are taking as a force is a war between muslim and the people of mecca then who are pegans and unbelievers.They were killing muslim and wanted to kill prophet when his uncle Mutallib died(the head of the idol worshiper in mecca who always protect prophet when they are planning to attack him)After killings of many muslim and prophet ran out of Mecca to Medina which they still continue to attack muslim God now order Muhammed(SAW) to start war against them.Is a long story which I can't tell in details but try to understand or buy english fashion of quran and any one that is not clear to please try to consult a schola for a better clearification.Islam is a broad religion which you need to practice according to law and rules giving by almighty Allah.This is why yoruba call islam "essin imole"that is a difficult religion to understand.ISis and al quiedda have their own proplem it may be political,social or hatred to govt or any other reason it is not for islam.You can see how boko bump mosque and churces.Killing islamic leaders that have a great punishment in the quran.You can't know all this except you consult a scholar to give you details.Thanks

tola9ja:
www.churchofsatan.com

[size=13pt]Rape In The Bible[/size]

Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.



So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.



1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.



Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?



2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.



.



3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.



What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?



4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)



If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.



What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.



5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)



If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.



It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".



6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)



Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]



This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!



7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)



"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."


Once again God approves of forcible rape.



Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)



They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)



9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)



Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

OREMUSSANCTUS:
No sense in nonsense. U better grow up, hope ya ve written ya jamb examination? Cos ya sound and behave like a kid to me.

johnydon22:


prohibere fratres bella religiosa placere hominibus istis, et castigare eos religionem esse, non est quod aegre feras, cum castigant tua.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
u taking dis latin tinz too far, I only know d ones for worship, d tantum ergo, creedo, gloria etc.

johnydon22:


aawww...lolzzz... i wanted to tell you stuffs that all wouldn't know but you.. but anyways.. i mean "Avoid these religious e-wars, christians castigate islam, muslims retaliate and castigate christianity too.."

The truth is, The quran is the younger brother of the bible just like the bible is the younger brother of the jewish scriptures.

The koran copied heavily from the bible old testament and gnostic gospels then added more to it.

just like christians took many of the jewish scriptures (old testament) and added more to it (new testament).

The argument is fine but the insults and bashings is totally uncool my brother..

You all are taking these things too personal and emotional..

OREMUSSANCTUS:
I don't insult dem again, buh for now I won't spare muhammed and a.llah. Dis world wld ve bin a better place wifout islam.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
I don't insult dem again, buh for now I won't spare muhammed and a.llah. Dis world wld ve bin a better place wifout islam.

kay1one2:


You people think we don't watch the news or have experiences of people who have died because of your lunatic religion.
Without any respect for the dead you jump out and say its not islamic? May you people suffer woes for the ideology you have chosen to embrace!

omokab:
may all the problem of thus world be with you and your family for sending a curse to muslim.may you never have rest of mind and INSHA. ALLAH sorrow will be your portion.why cursing someone for expressing his mind.what has led you to that.Alamtarakaifa for you

omokab:
may all the problem of thus world be with you and your family for sending a curse to muslim.may you never have rest of mind and INSHA. ALLAH sorrow will be your portion.why cursing someone for expressing his mind.what has led you to that.Alamtarakaifa for you

kay1one2:


You must be raping your mother daily to come up with such crap!

omokab:
the way your father rape your mother.who started the curse?I don't do such thing but when you think you can curse someone you should be expecting same

kay1one2:


Is it aids or cancer you prefer? It has to be a painful death for you!

timijoseph01:

I guess u didnt read d bolded Some tinz are allowed in d OT which is
actually a sin nw i.e afta death of Christ..
Or maybe u did,, but understand,,, Or u understand but pretend to not..

Ifeann:


[size=18pt] it is funny how some christians are already saying this is the old testament and some things were allowed.. wow...Christains wake up and read the bible and defend it with truth.
Christains Read the context and explain the content of the book that contains the message that ur belief is based on...


For example the muslim using Al taqiyyah quoted , "They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB).....
■ if u read the bible u will see this verse the muslim quoted is a comment made by common attendants of a woman called Sisera who was wondering why her son was late in coming home.. this is not instructions From the bible only a record of an event during the leadership of judges in ancient isreal.

Same can be said for many of these verses...
[/size]

yazach:


Ifeann!!!! you must be a thief, am sure your fingers must have been destroyed with blade because that is how yoruba people use to punish the thief, one will never like to see your back because of the damages done by strokes of cane on your back

If you acknowledge the bold as a comment from the woman, then you should acknowledge John 3:16 as a mere comment from John

I think Christians claim word of bible is inspired by God so word of that woman is also an inspiration

tola9ja:

Wahlai only death can stop you from entering your estate

Ifeann:


Tola9ja and oremussantus... , omokab and
kay1one2, U guys are brothers in humanity, and I am guessing brothers from nigeria... The unneccessary back and forth of insults is not nice. Your differences should not make u trade words in this manner.

Shalom
Salam
Peace.

Ifeann:


Yazach if u must call me that word make sure u have evidence to back it up. Be civil.
By the way, u are forgiven.

Look, the words in that verse are clearly shown in the bible to be a comment made by common attendants of a woman called Sisera as I said earlier. In john 3:16 Jesus was speaking, from john3: 5 up to john 3:21 with a brief comment by Nicodemus in john 3: 9.


So here john as a witness and disciple is clearly narrating the words Jesus told them.

Now u can chose to ignore all I have said and run along pretending I didn't explain this to u.

yazach:


Ifeann ok you are dubious
Evidence:" You are telling me that Jesus was speaking in John 3:16 did you think you are saying this to your fellow lost sheeps stop it because it won't work
By the way, I think you have to answer the op don't try your dodging habit here

Ifeann:


Yazach all the words of the quran are made up by Mohammed and the lost sheep Muslims believe it.

yazach:

lol!! Does this mean you are exposed cornered and accept defeat or you are starting your usual act "formula dodge it"
Don't forget you are yet to give me a definition for MAN and WOMAN on the other thread

Ifeann:


We can discuss religion but I am not here to teach u what a man and woman is.. If u didn't learn that in biology class or even common sense then that's ur loss. U should have payed attention in school.

yazach:


Slowpoke why did you brought it up

Ifeann:


what??
Aboki I think u meant "bring" and not "brought".. I can't teach u biology and English as we discuss religion. And No, u were the one who asked me and others what a man and woman is defined as.

yazach:


I doubt if you can teach biology or english to a prep class children so safe your teaching to your lost sheeps
This means you submit to the fact that Mary was 12years when she was married out to a 90 years old man
yeye girl