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Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 3:48pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:when God created adam, God had a personal relationship with him,this relationship stop when adam disobeyed God. When I say this word "religion is like a man putting effort to pleased God" I was showing you how wrong man idea are. Thoes christians who thought salvation is by there own work ,they are wrong. When I say " Christianity is a relationship with GOD". Your understanding on this is that since Christianity is not a religion ,christians don't believe in God ,let me ask you this, to have a relationship with God and to have a relationship with human just to reached out for God, which do you preferred? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 4:06pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:yes, out behaviour are foolish.Unless you think you can lead a perfectly moral life, God has a solution for your problem. God's solution is to allow you to trade your moral imperfection for the moral perfection of Jesus Christ. The trade is accomplished through faith in Jesus' sacrifice as payment for your sins. The offer is really generous, but will cost you your self-righteousness. No, you can't remain an atheist either. As the psalmist says, you must "seek God." The context is clear in Mattew 23:17. Woes to the pharesse and scribes, they show more emphasise on the law rather than what God realy want (your heart). I will ask you the same question Jesus ask this people, which is more sacred to God? Your heart or the gold in your mosque? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 4:07pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: What was the personal relationship God had with Adam? Also, When did God decided to start creating human for the purpose of worship and loving one another alone? ****cite bible passage to substantiate it** When I say this word "religion is like a man putting effort to pleased God" I was showing you how wrong man idea are. But worshipping GOD is also an effort in pleasing GOD, isn't it? Thoes christians who thought salvation is by there own work ,they are wrong. I agree. same thing in islam. When I say " Christianity is a relationship with GOD". Your understanding on this is that since Christianity is not a religion No, you yourself claim led that christianity is not a RELIGION while you also claimed that a religion is a believe in Superhuman called GOD. Then definitely you are saying that xtianity doesnt believe in GOD (according to your def' ofreligion) christians don't believe in God ,let me ask you this, to have a relationship with God and to have a relationship with human just to reached out for God, which do you preferred? Of course, with GOD ALONE. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 4:20pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: So God created us to be foolish abii? so that he can come to die for our foolishness. Wait ooo, are those writer of the OT foolish too?? The context is clear in Mattew 23:17. Woes to the pharesse and scribes, they show more emphasise on the law rather than what God realy want (your heart). I will ask you the same question Jesus ask this people, which is more sacred to God? Your heart or the gold in your mosque? We are talking about morals here, what is the morality derive in this verse when jesus call those who don't agree with him "fools" Can you call those who think watching football is far more interesting that going to church "fools"? <<<< i'll like to see your answer to this |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by kay1one2(m): 5:21pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Islam is lame!!! |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 5:42pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:the bible say as adam sinned he here the footsteps of God walking in the garden and he hide himself(genesis 3:this indicate that God is visual to them and he walk freely with them but the day they sinned, this relationship was cut off,ever since God had not walk with human but thoes who had a relationship with God, God has revealed himself to them just like me. In Jesus' parable of the banquet, the master of the house (representing God) invited a large number of guests. Most of the invited guests made excuses and did not want to go to the banquet (representing heaven). Jesus said, "Then the master [God] told his servant, 'Go out to the roads and country lanes and make them come in, so that my house will be full.'" ( Luke 14:23) One of the invited guest appear without a Rob(represent sinner) and the master cast him out. As a muslims if the purpose of God creating you is not to worship God and love your neighbours and it's ok with you, fine.(am not surprise,you are a muslim that why you ask such silly question) Religion seth the standards to attained God holiness but God provide a way to reachout to him, you must accepts his word(Jesus christ) and the holiness of God will indwell in you.you preferred having a relationship with God, has God ever revealed himself to you? As a christian you don't have a personal relationship with God you never encounter God, you still got a lot to do. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 5:49pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:God created you and give you the power of freewill (choice) if you decided to acts foolishly and denounced God,it your choice,you are not foolish because you choose to abandoned God, you are foolish because you chose death instead of life; Deuteronomy 30:19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 6:12pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: If they decided to choose death, why call them fools? can you also do the same? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 6:21pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: So ADAM was created for no other purpose but to keep company with GOD isn't it? Okay now, So When did God decided to start creating human for the purpose of worship and loving one another alone? In Jesus' parable of the banquet, theThis is irrelevant As a muslims if the purpose of God creating you is not to worship God and love your neighbours and it's ok with you, fine.(am not surprise,you are a muslim that why you ask such silly question) Lolz...whatever Religion seth the standards to attained God holiness but God provide a way to reachout to him, you must accepts his word(Jesus christ) and the holiness of God will indwell in you.you preferred having a relationship with God, has God ever revealed himself to you? How did GOD reach out to the people of the past before jesus? As a christian you don't have a personal relationship with God you never encounter God, you still got a lot to do. Have you ever encounter God? How? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 6:22pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:,you are not foolish because you choose to abandoned God, you are foolish because you chose death instead of life. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 6:27pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: What makes me foolish when i choosed death when actually am going to die? what makes you think despite chossing life you wont die again? What is death? What is life? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 6:35pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:your question dosent make sense,you keep on repeating the same thing. This is what you ask; So ADAM was created for no other purpose but to keep company with GOD isn't it? " Okay now, So When did God decided to start creating human for the purpose of worship and loving one another alone?" You agree God created adam and leter you are asking me when did He create human to have a relationship with him, does this make sense to you? God reach out to the people through his prophet,and when ever his prophet want to start his messages, he start like this; "the word of God came to me"example Jeremiah1:4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying, Jesus is the word of God,only him used the word "verily I say" |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 6:37pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:you think it is physical death? Shm |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by mujahid1339(m): 7:06pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212:then the Israelites weren't disobeying God,they were disobeying Moses.they were not obeying God then,they were obeying Moses.your argument is lame. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 7:32pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Really? perhaps your brain was unable to grab it or that you couldnt find a site to copy and paste as you've been doing You agree God created adam and leter you are asking me when did He create human to have a relationship with him, does this make sense to you? You said "when God created adam, God had a personal relationship with him,this relationship stop when adam disobeyed God." and you also said " what is the purpose of God creating you? Is it not to worship him and love your fellow human? i asked you was adm also created to worship God? you said no that adam lost his relationship with GOD God reach out to the people through his prophet,and when ever his prophet want to start his messages, he start like this; "the word of God came to me"example Jeremiah1:4 Compare this: Deut 2:2 Then the LORD said to me, |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 7:35pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: No, I actually get the drift. But I will like you to explain it. What is death? What is life? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 10:05pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:I believe you did not read the op before you coment. When I say the purpose of God creating us is for us to worship him and love our neighbours,I do not exclude adam, including him(adam) but because of the power of freewill(choice) he chose to disobeyed God and he lost the relationship, now read this once again from the op; "God created Man for the express purpose of mutual relationship with him, but gave Man the power of choice and free will. Man chose to break that relationship and has been trying to find his own way by inventing religions and cults of all kinds in an effort to replace that void left by lack of relationship with his Creator." to have a relationship with God is to worship him. Jesus alone used the personal word "verily I say" non other prophet used it ,then the lord say to me, thus say the lord 'and 'the word of God came to me. They are still saying the same thing |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 10:15pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
mujahid1339:the verse your muslim brother quote gives special privilege to muhammed, "obey muhammed or face torment" this is strange to the biblical truth, the verse he quote joined partner with allah, why will God say "obey Moses or face torment?" is God a prophet? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by frank317: 8:24am On Mar 21, 2015 |
My God is the right one... No! My God is the right one.... They kill each other yet the so called Gods remain silent You people will never learn. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 9:15am On Mar 21, 2015 |
frank317:The Bible challenges believers to "Test everything" and "Hold on to the good." God Himself in His revelation to Isaiah stated, "Come now, and let us reason together..." The very reason why atheists attack Christianity above all other religions is because Christianity directly challenges the atheist's assertion that belief in God is irrational. When it comes to morality, atheists tend to be very quiet about what role atheism plays in shaping their personal morality. You won't find atheists saying that their atheism was influential in getting them off of drugs, stopping their alcoholism and ending their addictions to pornography, gambling, or any other personal moral fault. The fact is that atheism has no power at all to change personal morality (in a positive way). |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by truthman2012(m): 3:06pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Muhammad is equal to allah, yet they (muslims) say allah has no partner. Muslims deceiving themselves. 1 Like |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 3:38pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
truthman2012:thank you my good friend, you see,muslims are just deceiving themselves,when Jesus forgive sin in the bible they say the bible joined partner with God, but we see muhammed do the same thing in the quran and the muslims are ok with it, this is satanic spell that only Jesus can set free. This verse indicate only God can forgive sin; Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of God: for God forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” S. 39:53 Y. Ali Here is another verse that say muhammed has the power to forgive sin even though the quran say muhammed is just a mortal man, infacte a sinner; O our people! respond to Allah's SUMMONER and believe in HIM. HE will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom. And whoso respondeth not to Allah's SUMMONER he can nowise escape in the earth, and he hath no protecting friends (awliyaa) instead of HIM. Such are in error manifest. S. 46:31-32 How can a sinner forgive sin? (48:2 ... so that God may forgive you your past and future sins, and perfect His goodness to you; ...)this is satanic deception. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 5:50pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
malvisguy212:what? seriously if you need anybody or religion to guide you morally then you honestly do not have human empathy in you.
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Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by truthman2012(m): 6:04pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Muhammad was not in a position to forgive sin. A sinner cannot forgive a sinner. What kind of sin did he not commit? No muslim of today can commit as many sins as Muhammad. I don't know who committed more sins between him and Hitler. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 6:10pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
johnydon22:the new covenant of God is love ,the messages Jesus teaches is a good moral messages which is a influence to million of people infacte the messages of the apostles is Love what is the hope of atheism? There are many atheists who are into drugs and hard life, can you provide one testimony of an atheist overcomes this behaviour? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 6:15pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
truthman2012:may God open there eyes. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 6:18pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
malvisguy212:they are billions of christians into these stuffs too.. Infact 95% of all crimes are being committed by theists. in us prison only about 1.5% are atheists... Am still wondering what you mean by hope here.. Do you know how you feel after being in the sun for a long time then gets home, takes a cold shower and a cold drink and relax, thats exactly how atheism feels. "Relaxing and freedom" You can go about believing stuffs because it gives you hope u will get a golden mansion after you are dead just like muslims are hoping for 72virgins, thats your own cup of tea..lol People will believe a lie becaise they want it to be true, or because they fear it might be true- Zedicus Zul Zorranda (legend of the seeker) 1 Like |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 10:31pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
johnydon22:Christians are far more likely than atheists to be part of groups that work hard to instill values about being good to other people, and having good relationships. The teachings of the Bible emphasize values such as honesty, love, forgiveness, patience, and generosity. Many of these values are not emphasized in social circles dominated by atheists. Importance of moral values A survey of 1,600 Canadians asked them what were their beliefs about God and what moral values they considered to be "very important." The results of the survey are shown below: Moral Values of Theists vs. Atheists Moral Value Theists Atheists Honesty 94% 89% Kindness 88 75 Family life 88 65 Being loved 86 70 Friendship 85 74 Courtesy 81 71 Concern for others 82 63 Forgiveness 84 52 Politeness 77 65 Friendliness 79 66 Patience 72 39 Generosity 67 37 Although the differences between theists and atheists in the importance of values such as honesty, politeness, and friendliness are generally small, moral values emphasized by religious beliefs, such as Christianity, including patience, forgiveness, and generosity exhibit major differences in attitudes (30%+ differences between theists and atheists) . What really concerns me is that only half of atheists think that forgiveness is very important. Either these people have not been married or maybe married multiple times, since a lack of forgiveness in a marriage is a sure recipe for disaster. Couple that moral belief with a perception that neither patience nor generosity are very important, and it seems that the divorce rates are likely to go up significantly in the near future. According to Professor Bibby, Grandma is the "symbolic saintly person in the clan. So valuing Grandma also means valuing many of the things important to her. In successive generations you have a lingering effect of morality. But further down the road generations get further removed from the sources of those values. That's where it gets tricky." |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 10:40pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
malvisguy212:lmao... funny We really are seeing the theist moral values as muslems are blowing themselves and every other person up, slitting throats, reeking harvoc on planet earth, when only 1.5% of american prisoners are atheist, and i need not tell you how Christian militia almost wiped out all the muslims in central africa republic..smh...Lmao am loving your lies tho.. How ironic the biggest charitable human on earth is bill gates an atheist .anyway am not here to defend anyone tho just stop applyin fallacy to try make a point, that is not even moral too ... But am i supposed to read all that? when will you stop this your copy and paste? anyway i say it again "Be good for goodness sake"
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Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 10:55pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
johnydon22:muslims are killing because the quran not teach moral value, but no where in the bible Jesus command us to killed. This is what I paste; The teachings of the Bible emphasize values such as honesty, love, forgiveness, patience, and generosity. Many of these values are not emphasized in social circles dominated by atheists |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 11:03pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
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Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 11:09pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
[quote author=johnydon22 post=31870046][/quote]if this is what is troubling you, remember God made a vow never to destroyed the world with water again but with brimstones and fire, if you did not repent, your own will be worse than the people in the picture you upload. |
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