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Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by malvisguy212: 12:06am On Mar 22, 2015 |
Sylvekzee:some invincible friends want to turn him into atheist.may God guide us. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 12:08am On Mar 22, 2015 |
swaggzo: All of them na the same thing... imagine a christian calling a muslim delusional for expecting 72virgins in heaven, while he is expecting a golden mansion and white robes...delusion calling another delusion.. we see that alot here in nairaland 5 Likes
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Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by malvisguy212: 12:08am On Mar 22, 2015 |
sammy187:https://www.nairaland.com/2035915/did-god-create-evil-does |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by sammy187: 12:23am On Mar 22, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Meaning 90% of the Bible translations and interpretation are wrong. Please shed more light which Bible is correct and which is incorrect? 4 Likes |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 12:25am On Mar 22, 2015 |
sammy187: 1 Like
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Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by swaggzo(m): 12:29am On Mar 22, 2015 |
malvisguy212: The same way he guided Eve to the tree, and the demon into the serpent that tempted her. Amen. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by sammy187: 12:36am On Mar 22, 2015 |
[quote author=johnydon22 post=31871619][/quote] Saw this online.
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Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 12:39am On Mar 22, 2015 |
sammy187:LOL for me, am gona live my life for me and not with what some ancient primitive desertic men that have 0 in morality scale wrote and asked me to follow.. I'd rather follow my reason 4 Likes |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 12:46am On Mar 22, 2015 |
The sooner you guys understand that the books of moses, and some other NT books are just jewish fables, the better for you. Jesus existed sometime 2000+ years ago, but he isn't really who y'all think he is...if y'all have time, u can try reading the gnostic scriptures and lost book of the bible which where omitted from the bibles y'all carry around by the council of nicea because they made jesus look more mortal than supernatural 4 Likes |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by sammy187: 12:48am On Mar 22, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Please address this aswell, thanks. God is not a man, that he should lie - Numbers 23:19 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. - Ezekiel 24:9 We are told to accept that Jesus existed based upon the Gospels of the Bible. 1) How many generations were there between Abraham to David? Matthew 1:17 lists fourteen generations. Matthew 1:2 lists thirteen generations. 2) Is Paul lying? In Acts 20:35 Paul told people "to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'" Since Jesus never made such a biblical statement, isn’t Paul guilty of deception? 3) When did the leper become not a leper? (Matthew 8:13 & 8:14) Jesus healed the leper before visiting the house. (Mark 1:29-30 & 1:40-42) Jesus healed the leper after visiting Simon Peter’s house. 4) Who approached Jesus? (Matthew 8:5-7) The Centurion approached Jesus, beseeching help for a sick servant. (Luke 7:3 & 7:6-7) The Centurion did not approach Jesus. He sent friends and elders of the Jews. 5) Was she dead or just dying? (Matthew 9:18) He asked for help, saying his daughter was already dead. (Luke 8:41-42) Jairus approached Jesus for help, because his daughter was dying. 6) Just what did Jesus instruct them to take? (Matthew 10:10) Jesus instructed them not to take a staff, not to wear sandals. (Mark 6:8-9) Jesus instructed his disciples to wear sandals and take a staff on their journey. 7) When did John find out Jesus was the Messiah? (Matthew 11:2-3) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the messiah. (Luke 7:18-22) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the Messiah. (John 1 :29-34,36) John already knew Jesus was the Messiah. Who made the request? (Matthew 20:20-21) Their mother requested that James and John, Zebedee’s children, should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom. (Mark 10:35-37) James and John, Zebedee’s children, requested that they should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom. 9) What animals were brought to Jesus? (Matthew 21:2-7) two of the disciples brought Jesus an ass and a colt from the village of Bethphage. (Mark 11:2-7) They brought him only a colt. 10) When did the fig tree hear of its doom? (Matthew 21:17-19) Jesus cursed the fig tree after purging the temple. (Mark 11:14-15 & 20) He cursed it before the purging. 11) When did the fig tree keel? (Matthew 21:9) The fig tree withered immediately. and the disciples registered surprise then and there. (Mark 11:12-14 & 20) The morning after Jesus cursed the fig tree, the disciples noticed it had withered and expressed astonishment. 12) Was John the Baptist Elias? "This is Elias which was to come." Matthew 11:14 "And they asked him, what then? Art thou Elias? And he said I am not." John l:21 13) Who was the father of Joseph? Matthew 1:16 The father of Joseph was Jacob. Luke 3 :23 The father of Joseph was Heli. Christians shall try to LIE and tell you that one is the heritage of Mary and the other Joseph. This is utter bullshit, the Hebrew and Greek cultures NEVER regarded the bloodline of the mother. They were patriarchal societies which only concerned themselves with paternal lineage. 14) How many generations were there from the Babylon captivity to Christ? Matthew 1:17 Fourteen generations, Matthew 1:12-16 Thirteen generations. 15) Matthew 2:15, 19 & 21-23 The infant Christ was taken into Egypt. Luke 2:22 & 39 The infant Christ was NOT taken to Egypt. 16) Matthew 5:1-2 Christ preached his first sermon on the mount. Luke 6:17 & 20 Christ preached his first sermon in the plain. 17) John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. Mark 1:14 John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. John 1:43 & 3:22-24 18) What was the nationality of the woman who besought Jesus? Matthew 15:22 "And behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, Have mercy on me, 0 Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil." Mark 7:26 "The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation, and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter." 19) How many blind men besought Jesus? Matthew 20:30 Two blind men. Luke 18:35-38 Only one blind man. 20) Where did the devil take Jesus first? (Matthew 4:5- The Devil took Jesus first to the parapet of the temple, then to a high place to view all the Kingdoms of the world. (Luke 4:5-9) The Devil took Jesus first to a high place to view the kingdoms, then to the parapet of the temple. 21) Can one pray in public? (Matthew 6:5-6) Jesus condemned public prayer. (1 Timothy 2: Paul encouraged public prayer. 22) If we decide to do good works, should those works be seen? Matthew 5:16 "Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works." 1 Peter 2:12 "Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that ... they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation." This contradicts: Matthew 6:1-4 "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them…that thine alms may be in secret." Matthew 23:3-5 "Do not ye after their [Pharisees'] works ... all their works they do for to be seen of men." 23) Who did Jesus tell the Lord’s Prayer to? (Matthew 5:1, 6:9-13 & 7:28) Jesus delivered the Lord’s Prayer during the Sermon on the Mount before the multitudes. (Luke 11:1-4) He delivered it before the disciples alone, and not as part of the Sermon on the Mount. 24) When was Christ crucified? Mark 15:25 "And it was the third hour and they crucified him." John 19:14-15 "And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour; and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your king…Shall I crucify your king?" John 19:14-15. 25) The two thieves reviled Christ. (Matthew 27:44 & Mark 15:32) Only one of the thieves reviled Christ. Luke 23:39-40. 26) In 1 Corinthians 1:17 ("For Christ sent me [Paul] not to baptize but to preach the gospel" Paul said Jesus was wrong when he said in Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them…" Clearly one of these people is wrong, either way, it’s a contradiction. 27) When did Satan enter Judas? Satan entered into Judas while at the supper. John 13:27 Satan entered Judas before the supper. Luke 23:3-4 & 7 28) How many women came to the sepulcher? John 20:1 Only one woman went, Mary Magdalene. Matthew 28:1 Mary Magdalene and the "other Mary" (Jesus’ mother) went. 29) Mark 16:2 It was sunrise when the two women went to the sepulcher. John 20:1 It was still dark (before sunrise) when Mary Magdalene went alone to the sepulcher. 30) There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulcher and they were standing up. Luke 24:4 There was only one angel seen and he was sitting down. Mark 28:2-5 31) How many angels were within the sepulcher? John 20:11-12 two, Mark 16:5 one. 32) The Holy Ghost bestowed at Pentecost. Acts 1:5-8 & 2:1-4 The holy Ghost bestowed before Pentecost. John 20:22 33) Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples? In a room in Jerusalem. Luke 24:32-37 On a mountain in Galilee. Matthew 28:15-17 34) Where did Christ ascend from? From Mount Olivet. Acts 1:9-12 From Bethany. Luke 24:50-51 35) Can all sins be forgiven? (Acts 13:39) All sins can be forgiven. Great, I’m happy to know God is so merciful, but wait (Mark 3:29) Cursing or blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. 36) The Elijah mystery: (Malachi 4:5) Elijah must return before the final days of the world. (Matthew 11:12-14) Jesus said that John the Baptist was Elijah. (Matthew 17:12- 13) Jesus insists that Elijah has already come, and everyone understood him to mean John the Baptist. (Mark 9:13) Jesus insists that Elijah has already come. (John 1:21) John the Baptist maintained that he was not Elijah. 37) Who purchased the potter’s field? Acts 1:18 The field was purchased by Judas. John 20:1 The potter’s field was purchased by the chief priests. 38) Paul’s attendants heard the miraculous voice and stood speechless. Acts 9:7 Paul’s attendants did not hear the voice and were prostrate. Acts 22:9 & 26:14 39) Who bought the Sepulcher? Jacob, Josh 24:32 Abraham, Acts 7:16 40) Was it lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death? "The Jews answered him, we have a law, and by our law he ought to die." John 19:7 "The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death." John 18:31 41) Has anyone ascended up to heaven? Elijah went up to heaven: "And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." 2 Kings 2:11 "No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man." John 3:13 42) Is scripture inspired by God? "all scripture is given by inspiration of God." 2 Timothy 3:16 compared to: "But I speak this by permission and not by commandment." 1 Corinthians 7:6 "But tou the rest speak I, not the Lord." 1 Corinthians 7:12 "That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord" 2 Corinthians. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by plaetton: 2:13am On Mar 22, 2015 |
sammy187: Lol. 1 Like |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Weah96: 5:58am On Mar 22, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Who is this WE that the Quran keeps repeating? I didn't know that there was a trinity in Islam too. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by malvisguy212: 7:42am On Mar 22, 2015 |
Sammy. All what you wrote are misunderstanding of the word of God and translations,if you observe the contradiction you past,they were mixed with different translations of the bible.during the Time the king James version was translated the earlier Alexandrian manuscript has not been discovered.The reason the King James version differ from the NASV and the NIV in a number of readings is because it is translated from a different text-type than they are. A. The King James Version was translated from Erasmus' printed Greek New Testament which made use of only five Greek manuscripts the oldest of which dated to the 1,100 A.D. These manuscripts were examples of the Byzantine text- type. B. The NASV and the NIV make use of the United Bible Societies 4th Edition 1968 of the New Testament. This edition of the Greek New Testament relies more heavily on the Alexandrian text-type while making use of all 5,664 Greek manuscripts. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Ifeann(f): 7:54am On Mar 22, 2015 |
Weah96: Good observation...apparently its Mohammed and his Islamic allah |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by LordReed(m): 8:59am On Mar 22, 2015 |
plaetton: Are cars created to kill? What was Jesus' primary message? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:05am On Mar 22, 2015 |
Ifeann: e don enter were ifeann deh like... oya empiree, tartar9 come and answer.. who dah heck are the WE in ur quran? 1 Like |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:07am On Mar 22, 2015 |
LordReed: Uuuuuhm you wanna liken cars to biological pathogens now i guess **confused** :-s |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by tartar9(m): 9:32am On Mar 22, 2015 |
johnydon22:http://www.islam101.com/tauheed/AllahWE.htm and it is even used in some verses in the bible @ Ifeann da … |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by LordReed(m): 9:37am On Mar 22, 2015 |
johnydon22: Do you understand what a simile is? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:43am On Mar 22, 2015 |
tartar9:Bros i asked about yours, explain to me why is WE used when allah is involved... how many are they? who and who are the we? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by tartar9(m): 9:47am On Mar 22, 2015 |
johnydon22:The Qur’an says very clearly that there is only One God, Allah. “There is no god but Allah” is the basic principle of Islam. There is no ambiguity about this fact in the Qur’an and there are hundreds of ayat or verses of the Qur’an that make this point very clear. Belief in more than one God is Shirk (polytheism) and a major sin according to the Qur’an. Whenever in the Qur’an Allah is mentioned in the third person there are always singular pronouns used, such as He, him (Huwa or Hu). Whenever Allah is spoken to in the second person there are also singular pronouns, such as Thou, Thine and Thee (Anta, Ka). However only in the first person some times the pronouns I, My or Mine (Ana, Iyaya, ya) are used and sometimes We, Us and Our (Nahnu, Na) are used. This is a style of speech. Sometime the speaker says I and sometime says we. We also use that in our conversations. In the Qur’an you will see that often the first person singular such as I or My is used, when Allah speaks about His love, care and closeness and forgiveness for His servants. In a similar way the first person plural is often used when Allah speaks about His power, majesty, glory, great deeds or when He speaks about His anger and wrath for the sinners and criminals. (This is, of course, the general use. Sometime the reverse is also the case, depending on the context of the Surah.) See for example the verses where the first person singular is used: “When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: let them also, with a will, listen to My call, and believe in Me: that they may walk in the right way.” (al-Baqarah 2:186) Or “Verily, I am Allah: there is no god but I: so serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.” (Taha 20:14) or “But, without doubt, I am (also) He that forgives again and again, to those who repent, believe, and do right, who, in fine, are ready to receive true guidance.” (Taha 20:82) or see another example where both pronouns are used side by side, “Before them the People of Noah rejected (their Messenger): they rejected Our servant, and said, “Here is one possessed!” and he was driven out. Then he called on His Lord: “I am one overcome: do Thou then help (me)!” So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. And We caused the earth to gush forth with springs. So the waters met (and rose) to the extent decreed. But We bore him on an (Ark) made of broad planks and caulked with palm-fiber: She floats under Our eyes (and care): a recompense to one who had been rejected (with scorn)! And We have left this as a Sign (for all time): then is there any that will receive admonition? But how (terrible) was My Penalty and My Warning? (al-Qamar 54:9-16) See also some verses where the first person plural is used: “We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).” (al-Hijr 15:9) or “We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, but for just ends. And the Hour is surely coming” (al-Hijr 15:85) or “And among His Signs is this: thou seest the earth barren and desolate; but when We send down rain to it, it is stirred to life and yields increase. Truly, He Who gives life to the (dead) earth can surely give life to (men) who are dead. For He has power over all things.” (Fussilat 41:39). Or “Already has Our Word been passed before (this) to Our Servants sent (by Us). That they would certainly be assisted. And that Our forces, they surely must conquer. So turn thou away from them for a little while. And watch them (how they fare), and they soon shall see. Do they wish (indeed) to hurry on our Punishment? But when it descends into the open space before them, evil will be the morning for those who were warned (and heeded not) (al-Saffat 37:171-177). There are many other examples. Christian writers in their desperate desire to prove their doctrine of Trinity have sometime interpreted some Biblical passages where first person plural is used to suggest that this means the “Divine Trinity”. For example in the Bible it is mentioned, “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image¦” (Genesis 1:26). Christian writers contend that this means that there is plurality in God (We seek Allah’s forgiveness for mentioning this blasphemy.) Sometime Christian missionaries also go to simple Muslims and try to confuse them by taking some verses from the Qur’an and tell them that the Qur’an also supports such doctrines. I tried to explain this point in some detail, because I have often heard this type of questions from some Christians. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by tartar9(m): 9:50am On Mar 22, 2015 |
there are thousands of species of mosquitoes and just a few of them spread malaria and mosquitoes are very important to the ecosystem. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by swaggzo(m): 10:04am On Mar 22, 2015 |
cupid1: can I get the link to this lost books of the Bible sir? where can I buy it? while I was in secondary school, Christian religious studies made us understand the Bible was written by great men directed by God. How then were some books omitted even with Gods direction? I say it again.. it's better to keep mute than try to defend your so confused religion, bringing out the f00l in you. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 10:11am On Mar 22, 2015 |
tartar9:Ok this is really too long but why does God refer to himself as we? |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by tartar9(m): 10:13am On Mar 22, 2015 |
johnydon22:The Qur’an says very clearly that there is only One God, Allah. “There is no god but Allah” is the basic principle of Islam. There is no ambiguity about this fact in the Qur’an and there are hundreds of ayat or verses of the Qur’an that make this point very clear. Belief in more than one God is Shirk (polytheism) and a major sin according to the Qur’an. Whenever in the Qur’an Allah is mentioned in the third person there are always singular pronouns used, such as He, him (Huwa or Hu) . Whenever Allah is spoken to in the second person there are also singular pronouns, such as Thou, Thine and Thee (Anta, Ka). However only in the first person some times the pronouns I, My or Mine (Ana, Iyaya, ya) are used and sometimes We, Us and Our (Nahnu, Na) are used. This is a style of speech. Sometime the speaker says I and sometime says we. We also use that in our conversations. In the Qur’an you will see that often the first person singular such as I or My is used, when Allah speaks about His love, care and closeness and forgiveness for His servants. In a similar way the first person plural is often used when Allah speaks about His power, majesty, glory, great deeds or when He speaks about His anger and wrath for the sinners and criminals. (This is, of course, the general use. Sometime the reverse is also the case, depending on the context of the Surah.) See for example the verses where the first person singular is used: “When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: let them also, with a will, listen to My call, and believe in Me: that they may walk in the right way.” (al-Baqarah 2:186) Or “Verily, I am Allah: there is no god but I: so serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.” (Taha 20:14) or “But, without doubt, I am (also) He that forgives again and again, to those who repent, believe, and do right, who, in fine, are ready to receive true guidance.” (Taha 20:82) or see another example where both pronouns are used side by side, “Before them the People of Noah rejected (their Messenger): they rejected Our servant, and said, “Here is one possessed!” and he was driven out. Then he called on His Lord: “I am one overcome: do Thou then help (me)!” So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. And We caused the earth to gush forth with springs. So the waters met (and rose) to the extent decreed. But We bore him on an (Ark) made of broad planks and caulked with palm-fiber: She floats under Our eyes (and care): a recompense to one who had been rejected (with scorn)! And We have left this as a Sign (for all time): then is there any that will receive admonition? But how (terrible) was My Penalty and My Warning? (al-Qamar 54:9-16) See also some verses where the first person plural is used: “We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).” (al-Hijr 15:9) or “We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, but for just ends. And the Hour is surely coming” (al-Hijr 15:85) or “And among His Signs is this: thou seest the earth barren and desolate; but when We send down rain to it, it is stirred to life and yields increase. Truly, He Who gives life to the (dead) earth can surely give life to (men) who are dead. For He has power over all things.” (Fussilat 41:39). Or “Already has Our Word been passed before (this) to Our Servants sent (by Us). That they would certainly be assisted. And that Our forces, they surely must conquer. So turn thou away from them for a little while. And watch them (how they fare), and they soon shall see. Do they wish (indeed) to hurry on our Punishment? But when it descends into the open space before them, evil will be the morning for those who were warned (and heeded not) (al-Saffat 37:171-177). There are many other examples. Christian writers in their desperate desire to prove their doctrine of Trinity have sometime interpreted some Biblical passages where first person plural is used to suggest that this means the “Divine Trinity”. For example in the Bible it is mentioned, “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image¦” (Genesis 1:26). Christian writers contend that this means that there is plurality in God (We seek Allah’s forgiveness for mentioning this blasphemy.) Sometime Christian missionaries also go to simple Muslims and try to confuse them by taking some verses from the Qur’an and tell them that the Qur’an also supports such doctrines. I tried to explain this point in some detail, because I have often heard this type of questions from some Christians. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 10:20am On Mar 22, 2015 |
johnydon22: Proverbs 16:4 The LORD has prepared everything for His purpose-- even the wicked for the day of disaster. Romans 9:21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? The LORD created all things for His purpose; pestilence, parasites, plagues, starvation, wars, peace, etc...all these things are meant for discipline and correction! How do you think God would have achieved his purpose and showed his power in plaguing the Egyptians for refusing to let his people go if he hadn't created the plagues he used against them in the first place? Amos 3:6-7 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. @Plaetton, Jesus came to save us from spiritual death; not physical! |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by RikoduoSennin(m): 10:28am On Mar 22, 2015 |
plaetton: Adam did not create Malaria parasite! I don't know if the Malaria Parasite was created for good or bad. What I know is Malaria parasite would not have any effect to health of perfect man Adam had he obeyed his creator- Adam's would have an immunity to ALL ailment. Malaria parasite strive on certain enviromental conditions/host organism- if Adam had lived under God's guidance, such conditions may have been eliminated eg How common is malaria parasite in the developed world? (Fan Fiction: Will Superman or Vampires get sick from malaria parasite?) plaetton: So it is far beyond God's capability to stop population growth when it get to a fix point shey? Research what Scientist say about the number of people that can populate the earth before it is filled. |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 10:38am On Mar 22, 2015 |
doubleDx:so the lord prepare diseases and disasters for his purpose right.. nice god |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 10:39am On Mar 22, 2015 |
tartar9:Bro common not another copy and past |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 10:41am On Mar 22, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin: and an adult just poured out this fairy fantasy.. malaria parasites not having effect when its in existence, maybe carnivores would have been eating plants, no wonder a snake could take then and even had legs..choi ... seriously 1 Like
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Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by Nobody: 10:52am On Mar 22, 2015 |
@Plaetton, Another thing you have to understand is that, Earth is not a paradise! Sin brought imperfection into the world which is why we need saving in the first place....do you expect flawlessness in an imperfect world? Your arguments about intelligent design has nothing to do with what the creator chooses to do with his creation! He created all things exactly the way he wanted them to be...He is also not ignorant that sin would later come into the equation to try us, which was why he warned us through his word/messengers and also created an escape route for those who trust in him.... This here is the LORD's game, you are just a player in it! There are only two ways, you either go with the LORD's moves and win or make your own move and be removed! That's all....it's a matter of choice~! johnydon22: A resounding yes to your question my dear carnal minded friend ! It's written! |
Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by RikoduoSennin(m): 10:52am On Mar 22, 2015 |
swaggzo: Well if the above were true, then God would NEVER HAVE ANY REASON TO 'REGRET' WOULD HE? -Genesis 6:6,7 "and the LORD was SORRY that he had made man on the Earth and it grieved him to his heart. So the LORD said, I will Blot out man whom I have created from the face of the ground,.....for I AM SORRY that I have MADE them. Don't you think, forsight would have come in handy to prevent his heartache. Genesis 22:12 "He said, "Do not lay your hand on the Lad or do anything to him: For NOW I KNOW YOU FEAR GOD, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son from me". Did God knew Abraham would be pass the test before the test? NO, because there would be no need for the test. Yes, Sin cause a change in God's plan for Adam and Eve. They died because they sinned! swaggzo: Wrong theory, wrong speculation! swaggzo: None taken! No one should believe YOUR PERSONAL THEORIES ABOUT GOD- they are not what the Bible says at all. I will not keep quite when God's name is being reproach, I can keep quite when others refuse to reason with me. Your preconceived ideas about Christianity is your undoing. |
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