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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by didfy: 9:20pm On May 01, 2015
Owner
Is called arc of god ( na your wahala dude!)

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Nobody: 9:20pm On May 01, 2015
The guy should not bother about the car or who bears the cost of the damage. He should simply thank God for saving his life... period.
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by abbsal(m): 9:20pm On May 01, 2015
That's a natural disaster....d insurance company dat insured d car will responsible ...
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by ajalaolanr(m): 9:21pm On May 01, 2015
Depends on the terms of the insurance on the car, or the park business ,it is very important to read the terms and conditions of a contract before you endorse your signature.

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Tufunky: 9:21pm On May 01, 2015
If mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain would go to mohammed. Since the car refused to jam the tree, the tree decided to jam the car. Blame nature.

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by donbrowser(m): 9:21pm On May 01, 2015
[size=38pt]CARS ARE PARKED AT OWNER'S RISK[/size]
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Nobody: 9:22pm On May 01, 2015
oweniwe:
Maybe na juju money den use buy the car.... tongue
pure Nigerian grin grin grin
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by abbey621(m): 9:22pm On May 01, 2015
As long as the car owner has comprehensive coverage on his insurance policy then he's covered, he'll just be responsible for paying his deductible and the insurance company can pursue subrogation against the other insurance company or the mall owners. This would not be considered an act of God since there was no windstorm or other extenuating circumstances. It's imperative to take photos immediately and get a police report!

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by baybeeboi: 9:24pm On May 01, 2015
chibabe3:
The guy should not bother about the car or who bears the cost of the damage. He should simply thank God for saving his life... period.
''S'' is for ''spacebookers
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by matrixme(m): 9:24pm On May 01, 2015
The car owner probably didn't pray well before he left home that morning. This is a metaphysical scenario. How do you explain this to the insurance company?
#DeliverUsFromEvil
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Nobody: 9:25pm On May 01, 2015
Cars Parked At Owners Risk.


stephenponti:
A car was properly parked as directed by security men at a mall (paid parking)
A tree which appeared lively but with rotten root collapsed and fell on the car creating enormous damage.

My question now is who is likely going to bear the loss,

1. The insurance company of the car,
2. The owner of the car park,
3. The insurance company of the parking lot. (if the business is insured or,
4. The car owner

What's your legal opinion on this. I had a hard time trying to figure out the fate of the car pictured below. (happened today)
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Samoo01: 9:25pm On May 01, 2015
It was an accident, the car owner's insurer will bear the brunt.
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by loomer: 9:28pm On May 01, 2015
Insurance company
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by chax100(f): 9:30pm On May 01, 2015
Force majeure. Who bears the loss would be determined by the court of law based on how the parties present their cases. Justice here shall be prophesy of what the court would say. In the end, as the court pleases!
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by iskuburi407: 9:32pm On May 01, 2015
The tree
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by adaweezy(m): 9:34pm On May 01, 2015
literarymathy:
It will be upon the insurance company of the car or the car owner if there's a case of lack of insurance. The car park has nothing to do with this tragedy because it wasn't intended. There's no "mens rea" to the act. The car park company can only bear responsibility on two grounds;
1. If they want to out of remorse or charity.
2. If the car park service is paid for and consequently insured and in that case the lack of safety measures falls on the company.

#my2cents
Mens rea in a tortious case
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by dammytosh: 9:34pm On May 01, 2015
stephenponti:


In this case there is nothing like cars parked at owners risk, because you pay for the parking space, hence they are solely responsible to protect a car for the paid duration in the park.

You paid to park without insurance on your receipt.

Don't be deceived nobody will refund u in Nigeria.
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by adaweezy(m): 9:35pm On May 01, 2015
aze:
Cars Parked At Owners Risk.


That disclaimer those not work in cases like this
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Nobody: 9:36pm On May 01, 2015
adaweezy:

Mens rea in a tortious case

The usage of the term is solely to evince a sense of thought or premeditation. I know the term is more homelier in Criminal Law.
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by misreal(m): 9:37pm On May 01, 2015
a tree appears lively with rotten roots.they is something fishy about this story.I think it was high wind that fell the tree.so much lies on nairaland
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Ringtail: 9:39pm On May 01, 2015
adeekiti:
Ayee o, the tree owner and the tree be jailed grin grin
no just sack them and appoint new ones, beacause this is the time of sack and appoint.
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by betty202020(m): 9:39pm On May 01, 2015
stephenponti:


If the mall insinuet "it's an act of God" as someone said before what next?
THIS IS WHERE LEGAL FIREWORK STARTS. I WISH TO BE DIA TO SEE THE WISDOM OF THE JUGDE
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Nobody: 9:39pm On May 01, 2015
literarymathy:


The usage of the term is solely to evince a sense of thought or premeditation. I know the term is more homelier in Criminal Law.

adaweezy:

Mens rea in a tortious case

I see no recklessness tho
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by digitsolution: 9:42pm On May 01, 2015
stephenponti:


If the mall insinuet "it's an act of God" as someone said before what next?

If the car owner has comprehensive insurance he has got nothing to worry about with the Mall, though the mall is liable for damages caused the car owner
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by InvertedHammer: 9:46pm On May 01, 2015
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The Insurance company will fix the car if the owner has comprehensive insurance. That's why you have insurance that covers the car. The owner of the parking lot is not liable.
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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by superfelix: 10:03pm On May 01, 2015
Gbese re o *in Lil Kesh voice* grin

The Insurance company of the car.

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Nobody: 10:13pm On May 01, 2015
Sell that tree, buy another car.

God forbid..
Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by onatisi(m): 10:14pm On May 01, 2015
The mall administrators and the parking lot admin bears the cost. The car owner paid to park his car in a place guaranteed by the park admin to be safe. It is the duty of the park admin to check for anything that can cause damage to peoples cars once they were paid .

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Jhayeahsam01(m): 10:21pm On May 01, 2015
the tree itself must surely pay... or enter fire

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by MadCow1: 10:23pm On May 01, 2015
literarymathy:
It will be upon the insurance company of the car or the car owner if there's a case of lack of insurance. The car park has nothing to do with this tragedy because it wasn't intended. There's no "mens rea" to the act. The car park company can only bear responsibility on two grounds;
1. If they want to out of remorse or charity.
2. If the car park service is paid for and consequently insured and in that case the lack of safety measures falls on the company.

#my2cents

Mens rea and actus rae are not important in this matter and only holds for murder cases..

A car park that collects money for people to park in it had a case to answer. In as much as there was no specific agreement as to what the money paid covers, the owner can argue that he felt they offered full protection for his car..

Now note, the contract or agreement of services provided by the car park can range between or a combination of the following:

1. Rent.. This covers just hosting the vehicle for a set period. Meaning though the vehicle is on their property, they still are not liable for its safety.

2. SAFETY.. This normally covers protection from theft, vandalism and tamper.

Or both.

Now if it is found that the tree was diseased and should have been cut down long before now, then the park operators are responsible.

The car park has a responsibility to provide a safe parking zone for its client.

Act of God situation does not apply here except it can be proven that a hurricane blew the tree down or that a typhoon passed the area and destroyed the tree..

Unless that tree was from someone else's property, the Business owner is responsible. It's not different to a case of if the tank stand inside the compound falls on a car..

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Re: Car Smashed By A Tree In A Pay Park, Who Bears The Loss? Your Opinion by Kay17: 10:26pm On May 01, 2015
The car park administrator can be considered to be a bailee and the terms of the bailment includes a duty of care towards the chattel, that's the car. An additional factor is, the car park administrator was rewarded for keeping the car safe so his duty is stricter.

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