Fulaman198:


No worries never though it would be my Yoruba friends to do it though (no offence to the Yorubas). Thought it would be AAs but the AAs on this site seem to be the most civil bunch out of all of us.

bigfrancis21:


Are you this dumb? When a slave master has a slave, he OWNS that slave. Certain Yorubas were slaves to the Binis, and thus Binis owned those Yorubas. What's wrong with his statement in the first place? Or you just feel that you are obliged to reply every post irrespective of the thrash you're spewing?

tpiadotcom:
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yes, the safer usual mentions which are randomly parroted on nairaland.

You for say the entire southwest, nay the whole world, was under Bini?

btw, where is this area of yours which you place under Oyo while assigning other people's area to Bini? And how do you correlate your Oyo claim with your nairaland Bini grabs?







seriously, you sound like you browse google and nairaland and obtain your info from there.

macof:
and you are the dumb one here If you don't identify these certain Yorubas that were slaves to Bini
come on, what family in Bini identify as descended from yoruba slaves? Where were they taken from?

bigfrancis21:


I should identify bini-owned yoruba slaves of 19th and 20th centuries who have long integrated into the greater society today? You're really slow.

macof:

Identifying them could be by stating where in Bini they were made to reside? What household they labored for? Where they were taken from? Their homeland? their descendants today
if you cannot do this then you are the dumb and slow one here
you don't come here making assumptions out of your wild dreams

tpiadotcom:


true, the kids will have the status of the father.


i guess the slave owner would try to transfer the slave during his lifetime, rather than risk him becoming his master.


The proverb sounds like the bible one.

adamskutty:
alright fulaman but i've never heard of it until now. But there were no such case in nigeria,right?

somegirl1:


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulrahman_Ibrahim_Ibn_Sori

Not a Nigerian but a Fula that was enslaved all the same.

Fulaman198:


People of Yarba <> Fulani. Again reading all passages posted here, it sounds like your "evidence" is working against you. It seems to state that the Yoruba people were subjugated by the Fulani. The Christians being referred to, were they even Yoruba...... Yoruba have only been Christians for less than 120 years.

tpiadotcom:
Fulaman has been aligning himself with the wrong crowd.

He's starting to sound like them.

bigfrancis21:


You are really slow. Descendants of Bini-owned slaves of 100 years back walk around in Yorubaland today bearing 'slave' on their faces for easy idenification, right? Dumb, huh.

Well just go around and identify descendants of ex-yoruba slaves to fellow yorubas living in Yoruba land today, and freely publish your findings and method identification tools and I will gladly use your tools and find those who were equally slaves to the Binis. Thanks.

macof:

Oh my! Ethnic bigotry and full on hatred for Yorubas has turned you into a fool. If you cannot identify any descendant of the so called "yoruba slaves" in Bini city today how can you justify bringing such a matter up? You cannot even prove this and you are here ranting like a dog

If we say certain africans were made slaves in the Americas, we know that because of the records and African descendants in the Americas
so pls as you say yorubas were slaves to Bini, kindly furnish the records and identify the descendants of such slaves in Bini city today

absoluteSuccess:
He is basking in the euphoria of Buhari's victory and the idea of 'self-rediscovery' after being called 'the king of the bantu' by axum. I don't have any issue with the nairaland 'Igbo king', bigfornaughty129. I call him 'Oliver De Twist' sometimes.

absoluteSuccess:
He is basking in the euphoria of Buhari's victory and the idea of 'self-rediscovery' after being called 'the king of the bantu' by axum.

macof:

Oh my! Ethnic bigotry and full on hatred for Yorubas has turned you into a fool. If you cannot identify any descendant of the so called "yoruba slaves" in Bini city today how can you justify bringing such a matter up? You cannot even prove this and you are here ranting like a dog

If we say certain africans were made slaves in the Americas, we know that because of the records and African descendants in the Americas
so pls as you say yorubas were slaves to Bini, kindly furnish the records and identify the descendants of such slaves in Bini city today

I was expecting the writer to say ‘Yoruba masters’ instead of ‘British masters’ in his erroneous statement. As far as I know, there is no record of the Yoruba ever once conquering or colonizing even an inch of Biniland. Rather, the Bini colonized, dominated and enslaved large tracks of Yorubaland and people until British colonialism liberated the Yoruba, so who should be envying who? Besides, the Yoruba were colonized along side the Bini and we all gained our ‘flag’ independence from the British on the same day, which was the 1st of October 1960. Black collective plight as the most wretched people in the world has not changed since ‘flag’ independence, so what is there in the Yoruba to make the Bini or anyone jealous? The writer is proud that there are Yoruba enclaves in Brazil and so on. But they got there as slaves and they are still slaves, (second-class citizens), in the Diaspora right now. The Bini were never enslaved, (the Bini kept hordes of Yoruba and other slaves from their conquests and shielded them from the slave trade), so you would not find slave colonies of the native Bini extraction anywhere in the Diaspora. What greater honour could anyone have than that?

No Yoruba commentator or expert so far has provided concrete evidence or credible story on Oduduwa. Some that have attempted to do so, have quoted spurious speculations from racist, paternalistic and condescending British historians like Basil Davidson, because that was what they passed their exams on. Prof. Siyan Oyeweso of the LASU History Department, goes further to swear by some 1950s – 60s researchers, such as Philip Igbafe, R. E. Bradbury, Alan Ryder and G.A. Akinola, who quoted profusely from each other, and largely relied on the ‘white god’ Davidson’s story for authenticity. What right do we have to expect these ‘experts’ to transcend the infantile bias of their day that Oduduwa was God incarnate, who as the Yoruba progenitor, descended with a rope from the sky? Could the historians have said Oduduwa was not God at a time of Yoruba political dominance in the region? Could they have set off on a limb and expect their books to be recommended reading by the West African Examination Council (WAEC)?

bigfrancis21:




http://www.edofolks.com/html/osahon_oduduwa_controversy.htm

bigfrancis21:




http://www.edofolks.com/html/osahon_oduduwa_controversy.htm

bigfrancis21:


Yea sister, me and you are fine.

Didn't you grow some balls some time ago? Where did you keep it?

#absolutefailureforlife.

*yawns loudly*

9jacrip:


Mr. Francis, I understand you're an anti-Yoruba hardliner but I could give you tips on this Yoruba-Benin thing to help you reason.

1. Owo and Eko were arguably the two Yoruba places under strong Benin influence

tpiadotcom:



fafoul #1.


I think you should speak for Eko alone, what's the meaning of this?

Do you even know the exceeding influence of Owo over Benin?

anyway, if not for internet sha!

cant blame you folk.

Well, I wonder what the emboldened means.

tpiadotcom:



fafoul #1.


I think you should speak for Eko alone, what's the meaning of this?

Do you even know the exceeding influence of Owo over Benin?

anyway, if not for internet sha!

cant blame you folk.

absoluteSuccess:
So interesting, the 'prince of slaves' may have been a nickname given to the man in slavery.

somegirl1:


Yeah. I'm sure there were several more Fulas enslaved. The entire slave trade episode is very sad.