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Re: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Scholar8200(m): 3:25pm On Jun 13, 2015
Pr0ton:


The idea that females name don't appear in genealogies to explain a case like this doesn't hold water. Five female names (Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Bathsheba and Mary herself) are mentioned in the genealogy,of Matthew. An all-knowing Holy Spirit (a non-author of confusion) would have simply included Mary's name or state explicitly that the genealogy is of Mary, that is if it intended it to Mary's.

The verse is apparently clear that the genealogy is of Joseph. Giving Joseph Heli as a father is just one of the many errors in the Bible. So your point holds no real point.



Whether it's for seven days, here's how the Passover goes:

12 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt, 2 “This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year. 3 Tell the whole community of Israel that on the tenth day of this month each man is to take a lamb for his family, one for each household. 4 If any household is too small for a whole lamb, they must share one with their nearest neighbor, having taken into account the number of people there are. You are to determine the amount of lamb needed in accordance with what each person will eat. 5 The animals you choose must be year-old males without defect, and you may take them from the sheep or the goats. 6 Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when all the members of the community of Israel must slaughter them at twilight. 7 Then they are to take some of the blood and put it on the sides and tops of the doorframes of the houses where they eat the lambs. 8 That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast. 9 Do not eat the meat raw or boiled in water, but roast it over a fire—with the head, legs and internal organs.10 Do not leave any of it till morning; if some is left till morning, you must burn it.11 This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is theLord’s Passover."

The lamb is to be slaughtered in the evening of Nisan 14, and eaten in the night, before Nisan 15 (the next day)

In Luke 22 Jesus ordered his disciples to prepare the passover and ate with them, which would definitely be Nisan 14. That same night Jesus was arrested, but not cruxified. It was until the next day, Nisan 15, that he was cruxified Luke 22:66

In John 18:28, "28 Then the Jewish leaders took Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness they did not enter the palace,because they wanted to be able to eat the Passover.", it was the day the Passover was about to be eaten. But before that morning, John 18:3 So Judas came to the garden, guiding a detachment of soldiers and some officials from the chief priests and the Pharisees. They were carrying torches, lanterns and weapons., Jesus had been arrested the night prior to the morning. And in John 19:14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon [Close to evening, when the Passover was to be eaten] Jesus was cruxified (not arrested in Luke's account) - contradiction.



‘Do not be afraid; I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. He is not here; for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where he lay. Then go quickly and tell his disciples, “He has been raised from the dead, and indeed he is going ahead of you to Galilee;there you will see him.” This is my message for you. [Matthew 28:5b-7, NRSV]

“Suddenly Jesus met them and said, ‘Greetings!’ And they came to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him. Then Jesus said to them, ‘Do not be afraid; go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.’" [Matthew 28:9-10, NRSV]

The deal between Jesus and his disciples was for them to meet in Galilee. That happened in Matthew:

“Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. When they saw him, they worshipped him; but some doubted.” [Matthew 28:16-17, NRSV]

But it was at a different location in Luke

That same hour they got up and returned to Jerusalem; and they found the eleven and their companions gathered together. They were saying, ‘The Lord has risen indeed, and he has appeared to Simon!’ …While they were talking about this, Jesus himself stood among themand said to them, ‘Peace be with you.’ They were startled and terrified, and thought that they were seeing a ghost.’ [Lk 24:33-34, 36-37, NRSV]

Now this isn't the question about the number of times Jesus appeared to his disciples, but the location at which he appeared to them in accordance to his words in Matt 28:9-10



You've made no point here. Both sermons have parallels, but at different location. Commencing on another paragraph has nothing to do with information being passed.




I'm particularly interested in the timeline of Jesus's birth. Was it during the days of Herod, or while Quinirius was governor over Syria? in Matthew and Luke respective.

I would also love to see how you deal with Matthew 10:10 and Mark 6:8.
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Re: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by ValentineMary(m): 9:10am On Dec 04, 2015
basbone:

one thing is clear, those epistles were written years after the Ascention........so the memories of the writers must have been a little jiggled that their accounts slightly differ individualy.
Notwithstanding, the purpose for the epistles is not to tell us old fables of men, but to let us see the life of Christ from different perspectiives, different individualities, who wrote their own accounts without consulting eachother, yet vindicated one point:
that Jesus Christ, the Son of the Almighty God, lived a sinless life, was crucified and rose again, and is with the Father.
If their memory was faulty, then the books were written based on their knowledge rather than the holy spirit's. That would contradict the whole idea of the bible being unquestionable.
Re: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by hopefulLandlord: 1:15pm On Dec 22, 2016
interesting thread
Re: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by randomperson: 1:27pm On Dec 22, 2016
Aiite.... Nice job Op. And as u can see Christians have entered this thread wearing the whole armor of God i.e. the breastplate of deceit, Helmet of falsehood, shield of deception, sword of lies... And so forth grin

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