PaulJohn1:
They didn't colonise any nation to make such nation advanced, but to get the best of her minerals for the betterment of their people.

It's left for the colonies to manage infrastructures put in place for the extraction and trasportation of what they came to get.
BTW, our longest railway line today (Kano-Lagos) and our most functional seaports were built by them.

China and Brasil were never advanced when they got their independence. It's a different story today. Remeber, same UK also colonised the US.

PaulJohn1:
They didn't colonise any nation to make such nation advanced, but to get the best of her minerals for the betterment of their people.

It's left for the colonies to manage infrastructures put in place for the extraction and trasportation of what they came to get.
BTW, our longest railway line today (Kano-Lagos) and our most functional seaports were built by them.

China and Brasil were never advanced when they got their independence. It's a different story today. Remeber, same UK also colonised the US.

PaulJohn1:
They didn't colonise any nation to make such nation advanced, but to get the best of her minerals for the betterment of their people.

It's left for the colonies to manage infrastructures put in place for the extraction and trasportation of what they came to get.
BTW, our longest railway line today (Kano-Lagos) and our most functional seaports were built by them.

China and Brasil were never advanced when they got their independence. It's a different story today. Remeber, same UK also colonised the US.

bukster:

Not true. Countries like Nigeria and much of Africa in which the Europeans never planned to live in were never developed. All the infrastructure that was created by colonizers was for the purpose of efficient extraction of our resources. Countries like US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and even South Africa were developed with the help of the colonists because so many Europeans moved to those places.

pazienza:
Actually, Brazil and the rest of Latin America countries never really got independence, cos unlike in Africa, the Caucasian colonizers never left those places, they stayed and became the rulling class themselves and had to fight off their brothers in Europe for the control of the New world. The native Americans never got independence, the Caucasian invaders never left. Same scenario happened in US.

totima:
Why is Nigeria not a middle (talk less of advanced) nation, 55 years later?

Henry120:


There has never been a Native American President in Brazil, despite people who consider themselves as black making up most of the population.


Brazilian leaders have all been European, despite been a republic since 1889, and recognised since 1829.

bukster:

Not true. Countries like Nigeria and much of Africa in which the Europeans never planned to live in were never developed. All the infrastructure that was created by colonizers was for the purpose of efficient extraction of our resources. Countries like US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and even South Africa were developed with the help of the colonists because so many Europeans moved to those places.

totima:
Why is Nigeria not a middle (talk less of advanced) nation, 55 years later?

Henry120:


Nigeria is a middle income country.

TRIBALSTOOGE:
because they are spear man running around with maluu and uwambe ikwokrikwo primitive life style , i mean waste and groundnut/north side .

totima:


Huh? You are talking about that "lower middle income" crap? Lmao!

Volksfuhrer:
Op, sorry to burst your bubble.

Though you are correct they didn't do much in terms of capital projects, but the funds they didn't spend on capital projects they left in our treasury! In fact, from 1940 to 1960 the British Colonialists sustained a trend of surplus budget!

They also bequeath to us a superbly run civil service that even our late illustrious author (Achebe) bore witness to. What they left with us at independence was enough to develop this country!

No matter how hard you tried, this thread would never gloss over the monumental tragedy of our past leaders' remissness, since independence.

ROSSIKE:


Please spare us your lies. What money was left in what treasury? And do stop this ''our'' business. You are NOT a Nigerian Mr Volksfuhrer.
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ROSSIKE:

Absolute garbage. What ''superbly run'' civil service? What SERVICE? No electricity, no running water, no roads, no universities, no proper hospitals. Virtually no public services. What exactly was this ''superbly run civil service'' doing?
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totima:
Why is Nigeria not a middle (talk less of advanced) nation, 55 years later?

ROSSIKE:


Not sure why you're comparing China, Brazil and the USA to Nigeria. Brazil got her independence in 1822, so obviously they've had a lot more time to develop than Nigeria.
Same as the USA who got her independence 50 years earlier. China wasn't colonized at all.

The oft-mentioned, singular colonial infrastructural legacy - the railway line from Kano to Lagos - is pretty miserable returns for a 63 year tenure. It was not actually built for Nigeria's benefit, since its main aim was resource extraction at the north and export at the southern coasts. Our rail needs comprise primarily integration networks to enhance internal and regional trade and movement. The ''functional seaports'' were built for the same reasons as the rail.

ROSSIKE
Why weren't we an advanced, industrialised nation at independence since the white 'gods' ruled for so long?

bukster:

Not true. Countries like Nigeria and much of Africa in which the Europeans never planned to live in were never developed. All the infrastructure that was created by colonizers was for the purpose of efficient extraction of our resources. Countries like US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and even South Africa were developed with the help of the colonists because so many Europeans moved to those places.

PaulJohn1:


Well... Let's say they developed colony nation they settled in like those you listed above, unfortunately Nigeria doesn't seem to be one of them.

Volksfuhrer:


I am a Nigerian. Though I still have my reservations about the British, however, I won't put stock in your beer parlour gist that the Colonialist expropriated our wealth.



Achebe's eyewitness account makes nonsense of the above claims.

You should be grateful for the little they did for your forbears who appreciated British rule. (Achebe, "There Was A Country", pages 39 and 43)

In any case, what have you done for yourselves, after earning over $600 in revenue since independence!

ROSSIKE:
A lot more than your thieving colonialist forbears did. If they were still in power, I'd be an illiterate village farmer, since they siphoned the money to Britain instead of building schools. It is a spit in the face of all Nigerians to assert we should be "grateful" for receiving an undeveloped bush with near zero infrastructure, and your phantom "superb civil service" as adequate returns after 63 years of uninterrupted white rule.

Volksfuhrer:


You are beginning to sound like a broken record. It's obvious you didn't read up on the reference I gave you. But for your benefit, here come some quotes:

"The pace of change in Nigeria from the 1940s was incredible. I am not just talking about the rate of development, with villages transforming into towns, or the coming if modern comforts, such as electricity or running water..." (Achebe: There Was A Country, pg 39)

Achebe did not even stop there, he added gloss to this, a few pages later:

"Here is a piece of heresy: The British governed their colony of Nigeria with considerable care...I am not justifying colonialism. But it is important to face the fact that British colonies, more or less, were expertly run." (ibid., pg 43)

So Mr ROSSIKE, Achebe says he is tired of your B.S about the British colonialists!

Volksfuhrer:


You are beginning to sound like a broken record. It's obvious you didn't read up on the reference I gave you. But for your benefit, here come some quotes:

"The pace of change in Nigeria from the 1940s was incredible. I am not just talking about the rate of development, with villages transforming into towns, or the coming if modern comforts, such as electricity or running water..." (Achebe: There Was A Country, pg 39)

Achebe did not even stop there, he added gloss to this, a few pages later:

"Here is a piece of heresy: The British governed their colony of Nigeria with considerable care...I am not justifying colonialism. But it is important to face the fact that British colonies, more or less, were expertly run." (ibid., pg 43)

So Mr ROSSIKE, Achebe says he is tired of your B.S about the British colonialists!