Tabari IX:69


"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us.
[size=13pt]As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us." [/size]

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464

"The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."


Tabari VIII:40

" [size=13pt] The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug [/size]
in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr [size=13pt] began cutting off their heads in his presence."
[/size]


Islam beheading people for over 1400 years.

parisbookaddict:
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464

"The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."


Tabari VIII:40

" [size=13pt] The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug [/size]
in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr [size=13pt] began cutting off their heads in his presence."
[/size]


Islam beheading people for over 1400 years.

the bastards were executed for their evil even after they were pardoned before unlike one mad dog god.

crusadistic:
the bastards were executed for their evil even after they were pardoned before unlike one mad dog god.

Look at this evil minded boko haram duncez, instead of you to condemn your demonic prophet and servant of satan you are here trying to justify evil. Soon after reading this some m0rons will come and tell uzs that this evil tyrant is the best of mankind in their deranged world.

crusadistic:
the bastards were executed for their evil even after they were pardoned before unlike one mad dog god.

What evil was that?

Jagoon:


Look at this evil minded boko haram duncez, instead of you to condemn your demonic prophet and servant of satan you are here trying to justify evil. Soon after reading this some m0rons will come and tell uzs that this evil tyrant is the best of mankind in their deranged world.

STFU dunce.people attacked the Muslims and were pardoned they did it again and were executed,you call it evil.or because they were "God's chosen" they think they can replicate those genocides and rapes your evil bible showed on the Muslims.did he kill their children and women were they executed for no reason like your deranged book ordered.He(SAW) wasn't even the one who even passed the judgment.good thing they were gotten rid off.

crusadistic:
the bastards were executed for their evil even after they were pardoned before unlike one mad dog god.

According to another hadith story Your prophet stripped all the young men n aked. Those that had pubic hair (even a strand) were declared grown men and subsequently executed.

So Teen boys who had reached puberty that were not involved in the fightings with the Muslims were beheaded..

All the mothers, grandmothers, little girls etc were then sold into slavery and some ended up as mohammeds sex slaves.

That is your prophet, a murderous, slave raping paedophile.



• ISHAQ:587 "OUR ONSLAUGHT WILL NOT BE A WEAK FALTERING
AFFAIR. WE SHALL FIGHT AS LONG AS WE LIVE. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL
YOU TURN TO ISLAM, HUMBLY SEEKING REFUGE. WE WILL FIGHT
NOT CARING WHOM WE MEET. WE WILL FIGHT WHETHER WE
DESTROY ANCIENT HOLDINGS OR NEWLY GOTTEN GAINS. WE HAVE
CUT OFF EVERY OPPONENT'S NOSE AND EARS WITH OUR SWORDS.
WE HAVE DRIVEN THEM VIOLENTLY BEFORE US AT THE COMMAND
OF ALLAH AND ISLAM. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL OUR RELIGION IS
ESTABLISHED. AND WE WILL PLUNDER THEM FOR THEY MUST SUFFER
DISGRACE."

parisbookaddict:


According to another hadith story Your prophet stripped all the young men n aked. Those that had pubic hair (even a strand) were declared grown men and subsequently executed.

[s]So Teen boys who had reached puberty that were not involved in the fightings with the Muslims were beheaded..[/s]

according to the most authentic hadith their children warriors were spared and their adult warriors were the ones executed and even some were granted safety can you mention just one of such generous warfare conduct in that your entire deranged bible you jobless fool;
Narrated by Ibn Umar
Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought
against the Prophet violating their peace
treaty, so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir
and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their
places in Medina taking nothing from them
till they fought against the Prophet again.
He then killed their warriors and distributed their
women, children and property among the
Muslims, but some of them came to the
Prophet and he granted them safety, and they later
embraced Islam"

crusadistic:
according to the most authentic hadith their children warriors were spared and their adult warriors were the ones executed and even some were granted safety can you mention just one of such generous warfare conduct in that your entire deranged bible you jobless fool;
Narrated by Ibn Umar
Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought
against the Prophet violating their peace
treaty, so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir
and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their
places in Medina taking nothing from them
till they fought against the Prophet again.
He then killed their warriors and distributed their
women, children and property among the
Muslims, but some of them came to the
Prophet and he granted them safety, and they later
embraced Islam"

More insults from the ill mannered devout muslim... Mohammed will be proud. .

did the tribes break the peace treaty or did mohammed try to force Islam on them and they revolted..something similar to what isis is doing today to Christians, yidazi, kurds etc

u often forget mohammeds version of peace is when everyone worships his moon good

Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of
this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE
SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD"
Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and
their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they
fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN:

crusadistic:
the bastards were executed for their evil even after they were pardoned before unlike one mad dog god.

You must be a good muslim following the sunnah of the islamic prophet. Where the islamic prophet's followers live or rule, there are always anarchy and killing of infidels.

Hope you are preparing for your hypocritic ramadan when all islamic terrorist will go on a temporary cease-fire.

true2god:
You must be a good muslim following the sunnah of the islamic prophet. Where the islamic prophet's followers live or rule, there are always anarchy and killing of infidels.

Hope you are preparing for your hypocritic ramadan when all islamic terrorist will go on a temporary cease-fire.

Jar jar Binks

parisbookaddict:


More insults from the ill mannered devout muslim... Mohammed will be proud. .

did the tribes break the peace treaty or did mohammed try to force Islam on them and they revolted..something similar to what isis is doing today to Christians, yidazi, kurds etc

u often forget mohammeds version of peace is when everyone worships his moon good

Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of
this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE
SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD"
Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and
their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they
fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN:

You quoted 2 passages, let's see what they say.

4:74
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4:74
Sahih International
So let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. And he who fights in the cause of Allah and is killed or achieves victory - We will bestow upon him a great reward.
4:75
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4:75
Sahih International
And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper?"
4:76
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4:76
Sahih International
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.

Let's see what the second passage speaks of:

9:111
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9:111
Sahih International
Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.
9:112
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9:112
Sahih International
[Such believers are] the repentant, the worshippers, the praisers [of Allah ], the travelers [for His cause], those who bow and prostrate [in prayer], those who enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong, and those who observe the limits [set by] Allah . And give good tidings to the believers.
9:113
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9:113
Sahih International
It is not for the Prophet and those who have believed to ask forgiveness for the polytheists, even if they were relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of Hellfire.
9:114
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9:114
Sahih International
And the request of forgiveness of Abraham for his father was only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became apparent to Abraham that his father was an enemy to Allah , he disassociated himself from him. Indeed was Abraham compassionate and patient.
9:115
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9:115
Sahih International
And Allah would not let a people stray after He has guided them until He makes clear to them what they should avoid. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of all things.
9:116
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9:116
Sahih International
Indeed, to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth; He gives life and causes death. And you have not besides Allah any protector or any helper.
9:117
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9:117
Sahih International
Allah has already forgiven the Prophet and the Muhajireen and the Ansar who followed him in the hour of difficulty after the hearts of a party of them had almost inclined [to doubt], and then He forgave them. Indeed, He was to them Kind and Merciful.

Bigots like you who quote single verses out of the Quran to deceive are truly repulsive. Quoting such hadiths is quite sensitive because, in hadiths, they are various speakers and you don't know what circumstance you speak of, so until you can quote a single verse out of the Quran that supports fighting without oppression, you can't use such hadiths to justify your hate, the authority of the Quran is higher than that of the Hadith, because the actions in hadiths must be justified by the Quran. The Quran only accepts fighting against the unbelievers who oppress you, it's quite simple


2:190
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2:190
Sahih International
Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
2:191
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2:191
Sahih International
And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192
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2:192
Sahih International
And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Now if a person only quotes the verse in the middle, he's not being fair is he?

parisbookaddict:
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464

"The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."


Tabari VIII:40

" [size=13pt] The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug [/size]
in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr [size=13pt] began cutting off their heads in his presence."
[/size]


Islam beheading people for over 1400 years.

The story of the Jews of the banU qurayza is a favorite for christian missionaries, they often forget to tell the true story of what happened, this is their story for those who care to know:

We have to understand the structure of Medina before the immigration of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).

Medina Arabs were two cousin tribes there : Aus and Khazraj. Centuries ago, before the coming of Prophet a group of Jews came probably from Iraq and lived in Medina. They were more than welcomed to live with Arabs there. They have chosen Medina because they were thinking that the prophet who is like Moses, will come to a place that has a lot of palms. Besides, Medina was very close to Tayma and Paran Mountain (Mecca) which was mentioned in the current books in the Bible.

Aus and Khazraj had some fight against each other and so Jews as a part of that society divided into groups which some of them supported Aus and others supported Khazraj. ٍJews became three tribes in Medina Banu Qynoqa' (banu means children of), Banu Al-Nadhir, and Banu Quraydha. The first one was allies with Aus and the second and the third were allies of Khazraj.

Arabs were idols worshipers and Jews were telling them that one day that prophet will come out and we will follow him and the Jews will unite against pagans. The surprise was that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was not a Jew, but he was an Arab, son of Ishmael . He came from Mecca (north Medina hundreds of miles) and while he was preaching Islam in Mecca, some people of Medina accepted Islam and asked the prophet to send them someone who preach others and teach them the basics. Aus and Khazraj accepted Islam and thus the prophet and most Meccan Muslims immigrated to Medina. So, Aus and Khazraj were united under the name Ansar (supporters).

Banu Qynoqa' were displaced from Medina because they killed a Muslim inside their market and refused to handle the killers. Banu Al-Nadhir were also displaced from Medina because they tried to assassinate the prophet.

About Banu Quraydha, Most Arabs made allies to fight against Muslims. They gathered more than 10000 fighters and Muslims at that time were 3000 fighters. Medina was surrounded by mountains except from two sides, north and south. In the north of Medina Muslims decided to make a big trench after the suggestion from Salman the Persian, so nobody can pass. In the south of Medina, there were castles of Banu Quraydha and they assured to protected their sides as their agreement.

However, Banu Quraydha betrayed that agreemrnt and were convicted of a treason. Pagans withdrew and thanks to that Muslims were about to be all killed. Also, at the time of the war, some of Banu Quraydha tried to enter a castle full of women and children.

After the war finished Muslims army moved immediately to the south to deal with the treason. Banu Quraydha gave up. There was a lot of pressure on the prophet from some people that what they did is a total clear treason that could have led to a massacre but you should just displace them out of Medina. The Jewish asked the prophet to select a judge. They selected Sa'ad ben Mua'ath who was their ally before Islam and they thought he would make the judgment a little bit easier, but he also was badly wounded from last battle. He judged that all their adult fighters shall be executed.

There are different narrations on the real number of killed people of Banu Quraydha, some said 40, some said 400, 700, or 900. All that matter is that did they deserve such a punishment or not? Notice that the prophet dealt with every Jewish tribe individually. They were not punished for being Jews but for their actions.

Note: Had Muslims made a Torah Judgment, they would have done like this "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man" Numbers 31:17.

parisbookaddict:
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464

"The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."


Tabari VIII:40

" [size=13pt] The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug [/size]
in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr [size=13pt] began cutting off their heads in his presence."
[/size]


Islam beheading people for over 1400 years.

Please I have a question don't ignore, I've been thinking, which god revealed the old testament? is it god, Jesus or the holy spirit?

parisbookaddict:
Tabari IX:69


"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us.
[size=13pt]As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us." [/size]

If you truly knew what Al-Tabari(Rahimahullah) said in the opening of his book, then you wouldn't just come here and spill garbage!

[b]"Let him who examines this book of mine know that I have relied, as regards everything I mention therein which I stipulate to be described by me, solely upon what has been transmitted to me by way of reports which I cite therein and traditions which I ascribe to their narrators, to the exclusion of what may be apprehended by rational argument or deduced by the human mind, except in very few cases. This is because knowledge of the reports of men of the past and of contemporaneous views of men of the present do not reach the one who has not witnessed them nor lived in their times except through the accounts of reporters and the transmission of transmitters, to the exclusion of rational deduction and mental inference. Hence, if I mention in this book a report about some men of the past, which the reader of listener finds objectionable or worthy of censure because he can see no aspect of truth nor any factual substance therein, let him know that this is not to be attributed to us but to those who transmitted it to us and we have merely passed this on as it has been passed on to us."[/b]

Ibid., p. 13

He came more than 300years after the Prophet Muhammad(sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) and many fabricated stories have been circulated about the Prophet. Al Tabari himself knew this and warned!So what's the point of creating a blasphemous thread as this, moreover if I were to accept this story for the sake of an argument, the biblical jesus has commanded more atrocities. Don't try to defend it because you'll just fall into a trap!

when will your ban expire @parisbookaddict

mustymatic:




Please I have a question don't ignore, I've been thinking, which god revealed the old testament? is it god, Jesus or the holy spirit?

Such a display of gross ignorance like that which says Trinity is God, Jesus and Mary.

Like Author like Reader: IGNORANT!

shadeyinka:


Such a display of gross ignorance like that which says Trinity is God, Jesus and Mary.

Like Author like Reader: IGNORANT!

You're the ignorant one, a simple question, if u don't know, why did u quote me.
kindly fukk off

mustymatic:


You're the ignorant one, a simple question, if u don't know, why did u quote me.
kindly fukk off

Sorry, it was the question you asked that betrayed you.

mustymatic:

Please I have a question don't ignore, I've been thinking, which god revealed the old testament? is it god, Jesus or the holy spirit?

If you had stopped with the first question, it would have been wisdom asking questions.

..but your second question betrayed your ignorance in the sense that you are presenting a multiple choice question of which one option should be true.

Example:
Your question is like asking " Who is the President of Nigeria?".
Is it president or Buhari or Mohammadu or Aisha?

A question like this you will agree makes no sense.

I apologize for being hard/harsh on your post, its not in my nature. I hope you have forgiven me?

shadeyinka:

Sorry, it was the question you asked that betrayed you.


If you had stopped with the first question, it would have been wisdom asking questions.

..but your second question betrayed your ignorance in the sense that you are presenting a multiple choice question of which one option should be true.

Example:
Your question is like asking " Who is the President of Nigeria?".
Is it president or Buhari or Mohammadu or Aisha?

A question like this you will agree makes no sense.

I apologize for being hard/harsh on your post, its not in my nature. I hope you have forgiven me?

Like I have said, even Christians here on nairaland, some of them believe Jesus is not god, some say he is god, some say there is a god and Jesus is not, some of them worship Mary, how is asking about this ignorance

parisbookaddict:
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464

"The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."


Tabari VIII:40

" [size=13pt] The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug [/size]
in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr [size=13pt] began cutting off their heads in his presence."
[/size]


Islam beheading people for over 1400 years.

Harass!!!

Muhammad was too wicked o!!!

parisbookaddict:
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464

"The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."


Tabari VIII:40

" [size=13pt] The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug [/size]
in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr [size=13pt] began cutting off their heads in his presence."
[/size]


Islam beheading people for over 1400 years.

Hahaa !!!

Muhammad was too wicked o!!!

Muhammad is the most wicked man that ever lived on the planet earth, yet muslims say is the best man and their role model. No wonder beheading is no big deal for muslims.

mustymatic:

Like I have said, even Christians here on nairaland, some of them believe Jesus is not god, some say he is god, some say there is a god and Jesus is not, some of them worship Mary, how is asking about this ignorance

It is far easier to group Christians into their various sects and then say which sect believe in what instead of a blanket generalisation.

Its just like saying some Muslims believes suicide in the course of jihad is OK, some say suicide is not OK, some say jihad is just a struggle while some say jihad must be with the sword.

You can see that this my generalisation above is not right.

mustymatic:

Like I have said, even Christians here on nairaland, some of them believe Jesus is not god, some say he is god, some say there is a god and Jesus is not, some of them worship Mary, how is asking about this ignorance

It is far easier to group Christians into their various sects and then say which sect believe in what instead of a blanket generalisation.

Its just like saying some Muslims believes suicide in the course of jihad is OK, some say suicide is not OK, some say jihad is just a struggle while some say jihad must be with the sword.

You can see that this my generalisation above is not right. It is subjective

shadeyinka:


It is far easier to group Christians into their various sects and then say which sect believe in what instead of a blanket generalisation.

Its just like saying some Muslims believes suicide in the course of jihad is OK, some say suicide is not OK, some say jihad is just a struggle while some say jihad must be with the sword.

You can see that this my generalisation above is not right. It is subjective

There's nowhere you can find suicide is allowed, only prohibition, whoever does that is hellbound.
on the other hand, christians use the bible, it has all.

mustymatic:

There's nowhere you can find suicide is allowed, only prohibition, whoever does that is hellbound.
on the other hand, christians use the bible, it has all.

That is your view and the view of most Muslims. However, there are individuals like Zakir Naik and muslim groups like the Alkhaida, Bokoharam, Hama's etc who preach suicide in jihad as part of their dogma.

Should we lump them together with you and say some muslims believe in suicide while some don't? Should it be right to say some Muslims believe in beheading some defenceless people while some don't.

That is the point I am making. You will probably tell me that NO TRUE MUSLIM will commit Suicide or Murder as part of their deen.

In your post , you simply marshes things that true Christians dont believe in as if it represents the Christian faith and then demanded an answer. This is is not right.

mustymatic:

Like I have said, even Christians here on nairaland, some of them believe Jesus is not god, some say he is god, some say there is a god and Jesus is not, some of them worship Mary, how is asking about this ignorance

[s]Tell me one group of christian who you know worship Mary[/s] ?
Are you an Ahmadi?

shadeyinka:


That is the point I am making. You will probably tell me that NO TRUE MUSLIM will commit Suicide or Murder as part of their deen.


[s]Tell me one group of christian who you know worship Mary[/s] ?
Are you an Ahmadi?

LoL, there's no reason to continue

parisbookaddict:
Tabari IX:69


"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us.
[size=13pt]As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us." [/size]

Of a truth, Muham.mad was a terror ! !

plappville:


Of a truth, Muham.mad was a terror ! !

sahih Bukhari 4:52:220.

Quran 9:29, Qur'an 8:39, Qur'an 8:60

Hahaha, that's what they call anyone who ask why Muslim kill innocent people in the name of Allah. They call you racist. Meaning Islam belongs to a particular people the "Arabs" yet to deceive weak minded fellows they will twist and tell you Islam is a world religion. Not only for Arabs.