trapQ:
st Bernard lmao. are you kidding me?? someone who was born in the year 1090?? is this some kind of joke?? rotflmao to China.

its a shame!! you had to dig so deep to find an INNOCENT. yes st Bernard of clairvaux is no christian terrorist, so I wonder where you got that from.

Paul Jennings , yes ! but how many people did he kill?? how many people died from those supposed bombings? 2? ,3?? most of his victims only sustained injuries.

andrew Berwick was no "christian terrorist" OK? he never said JESUS OR CHRISTIANITY made him kill people. no! he based his killings against the islamization of Norway. that's it. he never said it was inspired by Christ.

[s]bottom line is that you have failed, and Islam has failed since the beginning of time. if had to dig through Wikipedia , Google and what not just to come up with names(,false names),then this argument is baseless. I can comfortably name 10 Islamic terrorists who killed based on the teaching of your fictional Muhammed., Osama bin laden, abdulmutallab(only that he wasn't successful), sadam Hussein, book haram, al Queda, ISIS etc. and to think that ISIS means ISLAMIC STATE just says it all. this thread is closed . Argue with your ancestors.bye![/s]

limamintruth:


If you had said B.H are misguided muslims, i'd had agreed with you much.

But claiming they are entirely not muslims is what i will vehemently disagree with.

The so-called pious muslims in jos went about burning churches just this week without any provocation from the peace loving christians.
Hence, will you still blindly refer to those muslim youths(who might even be more committed in the practise of islam than you) as not muslim?

What about the sharia police in kano state who keep harassing/victimising non-muslims in the state by preventing them from carry on with their lawful food business as citizens of a secular country? Are the sharia police not muslims as well

So you see, this is where your argument is flawed. And christians blame muslims cos even the so-called moderate muslims are not really as tolerant as they appear to be.

limamintruth:



What do you mean by "Isreali army kills only muslims in gaza?". Are you insinuating there are no christians in gaza or what?

Its now obvious that you muslim lots are just looking for any worthless straw to hold onto; thereby bringing up all kinds of flimsy & ridiculously stu..pid issues.

The state of isreal is a jewish dominated state with a sizeable muslim population. So what are you blabbing about if i may ask Mal. Shiite

Isrealis target has been hamas & being the typically selfish and religious biased muslims that they are, hamas entire army are muslims. They deliberately excluded the christian minority in gaza city from being part of hamas. Hence, when attacked by Isreal, the casualities automatically are muslims.
So instead of blaming isreal for attacking hamas for throwing harmful rockets indiscriminately into their territory, focus your blame squarely on hamas for deliberately choosing to alienate other religious minorities from being part of them.

Awesomeking:
be honest with yourself fella

isreal,gods chosen land right?
Isreal,the land that dwelled of the first ever true christians-yeilding the statement "the children of isreal"

isrealite soldiers arent against bin haman,they are against muslims,dont pretend that there are only jewish and muslims people in isreal,there are both muslims,jews and christians,all together in isreal

just that the jewish and christians form the army

facts state clear that isreal sent the first missile by error of computer time(they wanted to send the missile to gaza,but they didnt want to send it immediately but were surely gonna send it eventually)

and after ibn hamen asked for an apology and payment to cover the damages of cost,they refused,therefore inciting a war,not just any war,a politically based war

during the war,it was duely noticed that oil wells were suddenly being fused up by isrealite soldiers when ever they gained territory in gaza

therefore i put it to you my brother that

isrealites kill muslims in gaza so as to take their oil and sell it
united state soldiers kill muslims in iran and iraq for the same reason,oil,they will keep on doing this cuz it seems the middle east has more oil than any other part of the world..

Before u come here and call all muslims terrorists

remember that i called u my brother because i know u are not the one killin people in gaza,just cuz u both share a religion,doesnt mean u are of the same mindset

may ALLAH bless you.

Demmzy15:

I no get your time, I'll reply this thrash later! Liar oshii!

limamintruth:



My point is whether or not someone is a nominal christian or muslim cannot be decided by us, cos you & I aint perfect either.

And that doesnt still change the fact that B.H are muslims (nominal or not is not mine to say).

limamintruth:



My point is whether or not someone is a nominal christian or muslim cannot be decided by us, cos you & I aint perfect either.

And that doesnt still change the fact that B.H are muslims (nominal or not is not mine to say).

limamintruth:



Point of correction mister, I do not practise Judaism as Isreali jews do. I am a christian; plain & simple!

And in case you do not know, christianity and judaism might share same heritage, but are two uniquely different religions. Unlike christianity, Judaism does not recognise the divinity of Jesus Christ as Lord.
So how then can you refer to me as them?

Secondly, this thread is about islam, not judaism. Hence, save your questions about the so-called isreali aggression for the jews to answer. I'm not a jew, so i cant talk for them.

And even your own quran did recognise the jews as the people of God as well. So you need not make it a christian thing or issue.

The fact remains still that amongst all the major religions in the world, it is only the followers of islam that kill unbelievers in the name of allah & while reciting their quranic verses to support their evil acts.

And majority of the least tolerant countries in the world are islamic countries. So much for the religion of p.iss

limamintruth:



Lols, why chicken out already?

Lemme see you disprove my post then boy

Demmzy15:


Unfortunately your post still made zilch sense (even though you are trying so hard to sound intelligent

Nevertheless, I'l address the following few issues you ignorantly raised (using the source you cited to prove one of your assertions i.e wikipedia) just for the benefit of the viewing public.:


Firstly, Arab is not a race as you mumuishly claim; rather 'Arab' is a major "panethnic group".
Your beloved 'wikipedia ' corroborates same as well; hence feel free to check it out anytime to upgrade the matter in your skull

Note also that in the U.S.A, Arabs are classified as white by the U.S Census, and have been so since before 1977. Same is recorded in wikipedia as well.



Secondly, the coptic christians of north africa and middle east were never forced to become christians by anyone.

The Coptic Orthodox church of Alexandria (which is the oldest coptic church in the world) is the official name for the largest christian church in egypt and the middle east.

According to tradition, the church was established by Saint Mark, an apostle and evangelist in the middle of the 1st century (approximately AD 42).

The Egyptian church, which is more than 1,900 years old, regards itself as the subject of many prophecies in the old testament.

The first christians in Egypt were common people who spoke egyptian coptic... When the church was founded by Saint Mark during the reign of the Roman Emperor Nero, a great multitude of native Egyptians (as opposed to Greeks or Jews) embraced the christian faith.
This salient fact is also corroborated by your very beloved 'sauce', wikipedia.


Thirdly, ancient mohammedan arabs invaded non-muslim nations for the primary reasons of expanding their territory and forcefully spreading islam around the world. They regarded it as a jihad for allah. They were the aggressors & not the other way around. They forcefully converted inhabitants of every nation they conquer & those that refuse to leave their faith were massacred.

Before the advent of mohammed's islam, christians lived in peace with the jews and their pagan neighbours.

Islam's Prophet Mohammed is responsible for the birth of religious strife as he taught his followers to hate and treat non-muslims as lesser humans than they are. He also encouraged his followers to embark on wars in order to conquer the world for allah.

And this is the very injunction the likes of Isis, Al-shabab, Taliban/alqaeda, B.H et al are obediantly carrying out at present.


Fourthly, Jesus Christ never had slaves for Himself neither did He encourage His followers to keep slaves for themselves. He was an epitome of love & preached peace. Even on the cross, He chose to forgive those who crucified Him rather than incite His teeming followers against the oppressive authority of that time. This is unlike your Mohammed that encouraged killing, beheading & even rape.


The fifth one is, yes mohammedan arabs slavery and european slavery surely are not same cos the atrocities committed by the former far supercedes that of the latter.

A typical example is that of the Armenian genocide by muslim turks. The Armenian genocide was the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of its minority Armenian subjects inside their historic homeland, which lies within the territory constituting the present day Republic of Turkey.

The total number of people killed as a result has been estimated at between 800,000 to 1.5 million.

The Genocide was carried out during and after World War I and implemented in two phases:
The wholesale killing of the able-bodied male population through massacre and subjection of army conscripts to forced labour;
followed by the deportation of women, children, the elderly and infirm on death marches leading to the syrian desert. Driven forward by military escorts, the deportees were deprived of food and water and subjected to periodic robbery, rape and massacre.
This is again fully recorded by wikipedia


Furthermore, slavery is slavery dude (irrespective of skin colour).

Hence that makes your prophet and the european slave traders all guilty of same crime since the europeans occassionally freed some of their slaves as well.

B.T.W, Ajayi crowther was never forcefully converted to christianity & Jaja of opobo remained a traditionalist till death. And both men achieved greatness even with their enslaved past. However same cannot be said of ancient islamists(mohammedan arabs).

And the last but not the least is the crusade issue. Here in order to do away with repeated back&forth argument, I'l rely on your beloved wikipedia as my 'sause', thus:

"The First Crusade (1096-1099) was the first of a number of crusades that attempted to capture the Holy Lands, called by Pope Urban II in 1095.

It started as a widespread pilgrimage in western christendom and ended as a military expidition by Roman Catholic Europe to regain the Holy Lands taken in the Muslim conquests of the Levant (631-661), ultimately resulting in the recapture of Jerusalem in 1099.

It was launched on 27 November 1095 by Pope Urban II with the primary goal of responding to an appeal from Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos, who requested that western volunteers come to his aid and help to repel the invading Seljuq Turks from Anatolia."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade


My question is this:
since your prophet did actively participate in slave trading, does that permit you to do same if you so wish today?

(BTW your dumb story about a flexing slave portrays how very s.illy you are. Or where do you see horse race sport being done while carrying women/passengers? .
Even a child will instantly decipher that the alleged slave in your story was simply serving as horse(cart) rider i.e like a modern day taxi driver). Na correct mu.mu united you be sha

I even wonder what the actual point you have been trying to make is, with all these references of ancient history you are bringing up.

Demmzy15:

See this guy o, you were busted lying. I refuted you to the core in fact I sense desperation from you! Remember that you would always find Muslims to expose your sh't in politics and religious section. If you expand your evangelism to romance section, we would still be waiting!

Awesomeking:
wether you are a jew or not

christians are in the isrealite army,christians in the isrealite army kill people all in the name of oil

therefore christians kill muslims in gaza#simple

accept the fact

we have muslim killers

we also have christian killers

all the killers committed sin by killing unlawfully..

And they all will go to hell

i cant call you a killer or call christianity a religion of killers just because we have christian killers and murderes in the world

same way you shouldnt call me a killer or murderer or call islam a religion of killers just because there are muslim killers in the world..you should know that if you think with your brain and not with your fist

people of your sort always claim notherners are illiterates,well you that is learned,behave like a civillised person too and blame shekau,not islam,notherners are not the only ones who need civil behaviour

MalcoImX:
No Muslim will go into a mosque during Ramadan and kill all those praying inside. Not only that, they went into the houses of those killed in the mosque and killed their wives who were preparing food for them to break the past. This is what happened in Borno state last week. Understand my point: You cannot go against the tenets of a religion and still claim you're advocating the religion. I am not a Christian, but common sense tells me that all those advocating gay sex and marriage, for example cannot be Christians, in the sense that the religion has specified the relationships that should exist between man and man, and man and woman. That's my point.

limamintruth:



Sunnis bomb shia mosques & vice versa; hence this is never a strange occurrence.

If you had said they are misguided muslims, i'd understand.

But outrightly saying they are not muslims is what I strongly disagree.


B.T.W, who do you regard to be a muslim if I may ask?
&
Would you have considered them muslims if their victims were only non-muslims

limamintruth:



Are you now insinuating that it is a crime for respective nations around the world to have an army for territorial protection

Does that mean nigerian soldiers too are terrorists cos they go to war on behalf of our dear country

And what about the iranian army, hamas armed group, hezbollah armed group & many others as well?
That makes them muslim terrorists too right?

Kai jama'a!
What kind of foo..lish post is this?

B.T.W for your information, I am a full-fledged northerner, but unlike you, i'm not here to paint black as white all because of mere sentiments. Comprend'e?

Awesomeking:
being a notherner has nothing to do with it mr man..the fact is clear

isrealite soldiers arent fighting to maintain their territory,they are fighting to take over someone elses territoy,by force,all in the name of oil

basically isrealite army is doing the same thing boko haram is doing,they are just disguising it under the statement "the war on middle east terror" when they are the actuall terror

MalcoImX:
You are a Muslim by following the injunctions of the religion. It is explicitly stated in the Qur'an that hellfire is sure for those who kill innocent people. Also, it is forbidden, for whatever reason, to wage war in the month of Ramadan. So, you're a Muslim or Christian by following the laid down principles of the religions. For e.g., I cannot consider a homosexual a Christian! even though the West in a way are changing or interpreting the Bible to make this sin a normal practice.

limamintruth:



And have you ever seen a mortal human being that is 100% in compliance with the doctrines/injunctions/instructions of his faith? :\

B.H derive their inspiration from quranic texts the always recite before committing evil or killing unbelievers.

They pray five times a day as is required by them in islam.

They compel their women & children to be fully kitted whenever they are outdoor. Same as directed by your prophet.

They believe in the supremacy of muslims over non-muslims. That is why they insist nigeria becomes an islamic country...

Firstly, homosexuality is not restricted to adherents of any specific religion alone. Hence, we have muslims, christians et al engaging in it e.t.c.
There are many of the here in the north as well & we call them "yan'daudu".


That said, homosexuals do not derive their inspiration from the Bible neither do they quote biblical verses to justify their acts. Infact, most of them are atheists sef.

Homosexuals do not cause hurt/harm/death to non-homosexuals like B.H does to moderate&non-muslims. e.t.c.

Anyways, no need arguing any further on this bro.
We hope these terrorism becomes a thing of the past soon.

limamintruth:



So am I an Isreali Jew that you are telling me all this trash? Isreali army is solely headed by the Jews; same way terrorist Hamas is completely headed by islamists.

We are talking national issues here and you are busy speaking on behalf of some alien nation many shores away. Is that not foo.lery at its peak

Your islamists brothers are busy causing havoc upnorth naija & the first thing that comes into your empty skull is gaza-isreal dunce

Isreal is & has always been a jewish state and solely controls isreal's government. So kindly save your no-sense posts to yourself ajayi-gaza-advocate!

MalcoImX:
I don't think they pray. For those whose purpose is to establish a religious state to be found with condoms and aphrodisiacs, as a report recently reveals, tells you who they really are.

Awesomeking:
why the insults??-even after i called you brother

so you are not an isrealite christian soldier.so i shouldnt tell you rubbish,

am the one thats now a boko haram soldier abi??-i am the one that deserves rubbish..

Mehn,just like your people,you are all hypocrite

theres nothing i want more than the biafra now,let you people take your land and go,nation is not by force

i wont be suprised if i find out that its you biafra people that are sponsoring boko haram so as to incite the breakage of biafra..i wont be suprised

limamintruth:


I really do get your point. But it he that wears the shoe that know where it hurts.

The attitude of alot of muslims upnorth is what makes us christians believe B.H is a religious tool for islam/muslims.

Anyways, good will surely prevail against evil God's willing.

MalcoImX:
And you'll be surprised on what the northerners say about it too. Many believe that it is a ploy to destroy their region and its population.

limamintruth:


Lol
Why not show proof that Isreali army are christians then (since you seem so sure that they are)?

And while at it, I'l also show you enough proof that B.H, Isis are muslims as well. Deal?

Awesomeking:
proof my foot,after insulting my religion,insulting me,after calling me a bigot,now you wanna show proof,now am a civillised person to u right??-i wasnt civiliised before right..

#shame on you

limamintruth:



Lols
No proof be that
So typical of you muslims and lies

Next time, learn to back up your assertion with genuine facts dude

Awesomeking:
mr genuine facts,i dont think you still beleive the genuine fact that christian isrealite soldiers are killing muslims in gaza,

beleive that fella,beleive and stop deceiving yourselves and people around you

#shame on you

kritikali:


According to this, acording to that, and non are even muslims..get a copy of d qur'an and stop extractin from wiki...I can see more 5 best form of jihad up there, aren't you contradictin ursef?...between, are u a christian?