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Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 8:33am On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:Hahahahahahaha now imagine this, down writing other religions to up hold yours as true. . why am i not surprised.. Well thats what every other religion feel and say about theirs in contrast to others 3 Likes |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by okeke00(m): 8:42am On Jul 12, 2015 |
where were you when you were not yet born by your mum? 3 Likes |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 8:45am On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: Like I said, which of them can step out and tell the world that they have witnessed Allah's paradise, Buddhist and Hindu reincarnation or non-existence (it's really funny to prove this one) like the Christians claim to do? History is literally your opposite. . .Am sure you haven't read about the TRIBUNAL OF OSIRIS. . . egyptians invented both the notion of afterlife and judgement. . .why do you think theh mummified, built mastabas and pyramids. . . You have a quite twisted notion of the afterlife. The first hint of the afterlife in the Bible was the book of Genesis where it was written that the blood of Abel was crying to God for vengeance. If Abel was in a state of non-existence, why was his blood speaking after death? The second was where God translated Enoch from earth even before death because He pleased God. Now, all this happened before the existence of Egypt.. You cant tell? since you assert humans have spirits, others animals have too Look, Johnny, don't drag me into needless argument. You well know that animals cannot speak or write like humans so your analogy here is out of place. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by Medicis(m): 8:51am On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22:Ode!! Mr know it all. That's not my question. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 8:52am On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: I am yet to hear any of them testify to the truth of their religious claims. I have given you my observations in my conviction. It takes personal experience to adjudge something a veritable reality. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 8:54am On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:Hahahahahahahaha you really need to step out of your shell because you are not widely rooted when it comes to simple knowledge. . exactly the same way you tell the world of your claim is exactly the way they all announce theirs. i think you need to listen to them not make such a laughable assertion... Pheeeeeeew Jewish torah written 400-460Bc, egyptian book of pyramids, book of the dead, chronicles of amon-ra etc written 2000-2600BC on papyrus not even scrolls. . . shows am very right, you definitely know nothing of history, its clear how hard the bible have formatted you that simple history is not in your agenda. Oh animals can't speak? speaking is for communication and because you do not understand them doesn't mean they don't. A cow moo is a form of communication and so following your analogy because you cannot speak like a cow shows it has spirit and you don't. . .Imagine such hilarious analogy.... Again tell me how animals don't have spirits but you do because this your post is just disappointing 4 Likes |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 8:56am On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: On the contrary, I'm showing you the reason why Jesus Christ is the only Way and Truth and Life. Where is Allah since revealing himself to Mohammed? What miracles or signs have followed the believers of the Quaran? You have eyes and ears, now tell me I'm wrong about my general observation of the empty claims of the thousands of religions in the world. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 8:58am On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:Seriously Rilwayne001 please come tell testify to this guy the truth of your religion... I advice you need to expand you area of study because clearly you have never listened to a hindu or buddhist talk or preach What observations? Your conviction is just faith nothing more the same faith muslims have in theirs and every other religion yet you proudly was trying to down play them. I even thought you had something new to show us. . . Why don't you regale us the details of your experiment 3 Likes |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 8:58am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 9:06am On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:No you haven't, you were just trying to down write other religions to uphold your own delusion as truth, forgetting they do likewise to yours... You see why i say you should get out of your shell and expand your scope of knowledge. . every other religion in this world still lay claims to miracles just like you... http://www.miraclesofislam.com/ http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/2008/10/claim-of-modern-hindu-miracle.html/ in fact read about miracle in all religions here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle You know sometimes i wonder if you guys purposely sound naive 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 9:08am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Medicis:For you to ask such questions shows you do not know that the MIND is just a figment of the brain . . .who is the ODE now? 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by davien(m): 9:11am On Jul 12, 2015 |
There was a time when a person like you didn't exist....can you tell me you're adventures of non-existence?... 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 9:11am On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: Where are the confirmations of those claims? Have they witnessed in reality the claims of their religions to the extent that they can say with all confidence that their religious books are divine and true? You have not been listening, have you? Christians say Jesus is alive because so so so many of them have seen Him ranging from little kids to adults. Heck, even hundreds of Muslims have testified to seeing Him but none, not even one has testified to seeing Allah. Now that's irony. Pheeeeeeew Jewish torah written 400-460Bc, egyptian book of pyramids, book of the dead, chronicles of amon-ra etc written 2000-2600BC. . . shows am very right, you definitely know nothing of history, its clear how hard the bible have formatted you that simple history is not in your agenda. Check your facts and dates. The events recorded in the book of Genesis happened around 6000 BC. I don't discount history. It even adds more confirmation to my conviction. Oh animals can't speak? speaking is for communication and because you do not understand them doesn't mean they don't. We're talking about humans, not animals. Have you seen a Muslim cat or an atheist hyena or Buddhist elephant, or a Jehovah Witness raccoon? The subject of topic is man's afterlife destination, not animals'. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by dalaman: 9:12am On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune: You are deluded. There are many Hindus whose claim of reincarnation has been verified just as you claim the deaths of christians who died and came back to life were verified. The claim of life after death remains a claim. The claim of reincarnation after death remains a claim. Isn't it funny that you are trying to tell us that the claim you have been indoctrinated with is the right one while all other claims are false. 4 Likes |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by Rilwayne001: 9:18am On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: LOL He has made up hus mind never to see the truth. I can't render any help. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 9:26am On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:#Sighs can you imagine, banking on more delusion to uphold a greater delusion... Yes they see jesus and give different descriptions of what he looks like...hahahahaha am a gonner You know even a child reading this will marvel at such naivete as the one you are depicting here. . . hindus also claim to see krishna https://prabhupadavani.org/main/Bhagavatam/254.html another disappointing assertion born out of plain ignorance and pitiable naivete . Still banking on the creationist assertion that the earth is 6000years? hahahahahaha i gotta laugh at this, am marveled that a 21st century homo sapiens think that the earth is 6000yeaes . . well we are not talking about when the events supposedly happened but when the account was written which as young as 400BC. To this i can only advice you read more books, because for someone who thinks the planet is 6000years after fossil records, datings and others have proven otherwise, i can only hope you step up your game and read more. .you need it Because all those tags you mentioned are human inventions. . . You still have not shown me what i asked. . .why do you think you have a spirit and other animals don't. . ? i believe this question is simple and clear |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 9:28am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Am wowed. . .someone boldly saying other religions don't lay claims to miracle like his is just very shameful. . i covered my face for the guy over here, was ashamed for him 1 Like |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by OgundeleT(m): 11:26am On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:There is nothing after the grave. No heaven no hell |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by MizJanet(f): 12:31pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune: , dont be suprised that your own bible says there is no afterlife " as for the DEAD, THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING , whatever your hands find to do, do with your power for there is no work , nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in THE GRAVE , WHERE YOU ARE GOING " - Ecclesistes 9:5 and 10 , where did it say you are going ? 1 Like |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 12:47pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
MizJanet:Lol even Ecclesiastes 3 :19-20 asserts so too..
Anyway have noticed your unbearably annoying style of arguing with the Bible, strong headedness and sassy remarks, you are annoyingly stubborn shaa... 1 Like |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 1:00pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: Let me ask, is it faith to blindly follow a religion whose creator has remained a mystery for hundreds of years? Is it faith to practice a religion whose so-called deity has remained silent, never speaking or appearing to many of his followers in order to clear doubts from the minds of people of his existence? Again, my conviction as regards the Word of God goes beyond mere written text. It stems from daily events confirming the reality of the Word of God. This makes the Bible extraordinarily supernatural. God does not rely on well-constructed human argument to demonstrate His power but confirms His Word with signs and wonders. I even thought you had something new to show us. . . Why don't you regale us the details of your experiment There's nothing new about the Word of God in today's world. Whatever new thing I or anyone says that is not already in the Bible is false teaching. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 1:08pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:YES this exactly is what FAITH is, believing something whether its true or not, having a strong conviction that something is true without empirical evidence. . . That is faith.…Am still marvelled you still don't know the definition of faith.. And we all know that applies to all of you, so stop your desperate childish attempt to exempt your religion and belief from such delusional gullibility. . #Sighs. . . pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew . . 1 Like |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 1:12pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
dalaman: At least there must be very wide range of these claims as regards reincarnation. You'll have no trouble furnishing me with links of many hindus whose reports of reincarnation have been verified. It doesn't end there, please also provide evidence of non-hindu people who can corroborate those claims of reincarnation. Have they ever set eyes on Lord Krishna or Ganesha in their current lives? It is easy to say they saw these deities in their past lives which gives them protection as the excuse of 'not entirely recalling the events of their past lives' is readily available to whoever makes further inquiry into their claims to verify their authenticity. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 1:25pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: Johnny, I overlooked this. I have gone through the links provided but saw only signs that were attributed to Allah. There was no report of any encounter with the deity, Allah neither was there miracles of Allah to his followers like resurrection from the dead. Is there any such miracle in Islam or buddhism or Hinduism? Have they had the privilege, as followers, of divine encounter with the god(s) they worship? Even false prophets perform semblance of miracles but they can never produce the evidence of knowing God personally neither do they have the power to raise anyone from the dead. Just as you have provided the links above provide others with the conditions I stated. I want to see those people who have seen their deities and confirmed by others. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by MizJanet(f): 1:26pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: Nice observation . Stubborn only to the bible twisters that think everyone is a fool |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 1:32pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:**Face palm** aaaah Not again . Self induced delusion and gullibility is the worst of it there is. . . Every other religion claims miraculous feats just like you do for yours, the fact remains none of you have ever in fact substantiated this claims. . .its all the same. . everything you say about these religions applies to yours too. Abject gullibility can be diagnosed for you Oh really? and how many people have seen your god, i want to see them. . provide those people so i can i see them and confirm and ask them questions too. . .perhaps you have? The level of this argument is just too low and childish for me. . . Fvcking done with it |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 1:33pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: One, I don't believe the earth is just 6000 years old. I believe the earth spans millions of years in age. Stop jumping into conclusions. Two, I don't believe animals have souls. It was never recorded in the Bible. It has never been reported of the souls of animals going to heaven or hell or standing before the Judgment throne of God. However, this thread was not created to debate the spiritual existence or not of animals. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 1:34pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
MizJanet:Lol what do we call you then agnostic, atheist, deist or what.. anyway i find the bible too primitive for a 21st century man like me to base my arguments on... |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by johnydon22(m): 1:38pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
CaptainJune:But you alleged the events of genesis to be within 6000BC. maybe you should learn constructiveness when posting next time. Lmao. . . The bible said this, the bible said that. You can't even make an independent assertion. Animals don't have spirits yet they are alive and breath like you but then because you are alive then you must have spirit. . when asked for how you got to know you have a spirit and animals dont .you call the bible!!! seriously? The bible is the claim, where is the proof, you have none all you have it circular statement. Man has spirits- because the bible said so- because the bible is true -because the bible said it(bible) is true. Am wowed at such naivete honestly. . . Tell me: Why do you think you have spirit but other species don't? |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 2:03pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
MizJanet: And you conveniently overlooked Ecclesiastes 12:14 which says "For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil" Now, does that not tell you that the grave he was talking about is physical death and burial? If indeed that verse was supposed to mean non-existence, then how do you explain 12:14? A confirming verse in the Bible is Hebrews 9:27 which says, "And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment". Quit making selective quotations. |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 2:13pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: There you go again. The patriarchs of the Bible acted on the Word of God, unlike the word of one man who claimed sole access to Allah. Knowing God and hearing Him is what defines faith. Geddit? Faith in God has the element absolute assurance of God's existence, not blind belief in something. It is seeing the evidence of God in our daily lives, interacting with Him on issues concerning life, having Him answer our prayers, receiving supernatural guidance from Him. Which religion can boast of such absolute assurance in the existence of the god(s) they worship? |
Re: Where do Atheists go when they die? by CaptainJune: 2:27pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: There are tons and tons of reports or experiences relating to encounters with God or Jesus. You'll have no problem finding them on the internet. In fact, the internet is literally flooded with them. This privilege of knowing the Christian God personally, speaking with Him and hearing from Him is what makes Christianity stand out from religion. You gave a link of supposed people seeing Krishna but I was so disappointed when I visited the site. It was just a lecture on seeing Krishna, not reports of many seeing Krishna as I expected. You can do better than that. |
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