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Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by olapluto(m): 12:00pm On Jul 14, 2015
So already, 2 threads have been on NL front page castigating Buhari for the appointment of Monguno. The reason is based on the release of Aliyu Tishau, a self acclaimed co-founder of Boko Haram.
So who really is Aliyu Tishau? Read his interview below and judge for yourself what Tishau can do to DMI in terms of INTEL gathering.

Boko Haram Leader Tishau Speaks…..
September 20th, 2011 posted by Nigerian Muse // Categories: General Articles




PUNCH

Boko Haram leader
speaks
By Agency Reporter
Wednesday, 21 Sep 2011
click to expand image
Tishau
What is Boko Haram about?

Our aim is to spread Islam all over Nigeria, that is our mission and I want
people to understand that our correct name is Jama’atu Ahlis Sunna
Lidda’awati wal-Jihad. Those calling our group Boko Haram do so to discredit
the group and it ideas. It was formed at three fundamental levels.

The first level from which our group emerged was from people in this country
who, for selfish reasons, recruited young people and sometimes children and sent
them overseas for education. In reality, these people are totally ignorant of
the reasons why these big men take them abroad. In the name of education, these
young men are taken to mostly Arab countries and turned into militants who
respect only those who sponsored them abroad. Those big men who sponsor these
youths don’t have any conscience and no love for this country.

It all started in 2004 when the Government of Mauritania fell.

It is similar to what is happening in Libya now, though slightly different.
When the government in Mauritania fell in 2004, some individuals from that
country came into Nigeria to recruit some youths as mercenaries to join forces
with them to overthrow the government in power.


The second level of our membership is made up of young men who were recruited
by our late leader, Mohammed Yusuf. Yusuf was approached by some people from
Mauritania to recruit more Nigerians to continue with the struggle in
Mauritania. The grounds were that this young people were being recruited to
further their Islamic studies. They were to serve as a support group to the
Mauritanian army. But our leader Mohammed Yusuf rejected the plan. But a number
of Nigerian big men who were involved in the Mauritania struggle were angry with
Yusuf. This led to a disagreement which pitched the young men loyal to Yusuf
against those backing the big men. Yusuf, however, insisted on genuine Islam
whereas those opposing him were mercenaries who were willing to serve their
master’s interest in Mauritania.

At what point did they leave perfect Islam and become violent?

Whatever I am telling you now I have already made available to the SSS when
they arrested me. There was a misunderstanding within the group and this
disagreement was between those who received military training in Mauritania and
those who were loyal to Yusuf. The SSS infiltrated our ranks and began to arrest
many of those who were militants. However, as they were arrested some big men
moved in to ensure that the court released them and they came back caused more
problems within our group.


In 2009 the disagreement developed into a crisis in areas where our group was
spreading Islamic ideals. I was in charge of our operations in Bauchi, Gombe and
Plateau. The crisis was more in Bauchi State in two locations and in Kano in one
location. In Bauchi, a group began to lay claim to a mosque that was built by
our group. This caused a major crisis again and a young girl was kidnapped in
Bauchi and taken to Borno State. Our group was fingered but we told one
intelligence officer, Bala, who was investigating the case that her relations
took her to Borno and if the issue was not handled well it could cause a crisis.
The SSS directed us to contact the Commissioner of Police in Borno State to
secure the girl’s release. We were still in the process when the Bauchi State
governor directed that members of our group should be driven away from the
state. That was how our people started to resist the forced evacuation and the
crisis with the government spread to Borno State. In fact, the crisis began in
Bauchi and not Borno.

Anytime there is a bombing in Nigeria Boko Haram claims responsibility, for
example, four times in Borno, Police headquarters and UN office in
Abuja.

Yes, we bombed some of those places you mentioned. Remember that I told you
that some of our members were recalled from military training in Mauritania.
Among them were three specialist in bomb making.

When this crisis began I made a move to the authorities advising that the
arrest of Boko Haram members would not bring an end to the crisis. I suggested
that the government should stop the arrest and release those already arrested.
Let me repeat it today, government should rebuild houses, mosques and schools
demolished in Bauchi and Borno states. Government should not interfere in the
genuine worship of our group and ensure justice for all. If these are not in
place, I predict that the Nigerian situation may become like what is happening
in Somalia.

I give this warning because many of those young men who went to Mauritania
are being attracted back home because of the violent situation brought by the
present crisis.

When I gave my advice, the police chased and arrested me, and kept me in
detention. Before I was detained, I gave the police the video recordings of how
some of how our members were being given military training, but the IGP ordered
that I should be detained. I was left in detention for 10 months.


But those things that I warned about are playing out today. While I was in
detention, I was in contact with our people and I still gave forewarnings to the
authorities about attacks. I even told them beforehand whenever an operation was
to take place. The bombing of the police headquarters had been planned and on
many occasions and I had always told them in advance.


In fact, Bala had helped the police because each time I got in touch with him
he worked to avert the attacks. If not, the police headquarters would have been
bombed before now. Three days before the attack I warned the police that there
would be an attack in Abuja that would embarrass the security authorities. Also,
after the bombing of the police headquarters, I was summoned before the IGP and
given a GSM phone. I called the person who planned and led the attack and we
spoke right in front of the IGP. So, all these terror attacks are caused by the
negligence of government.

Since I was released from detention, I have rejoined my group and some of us
have warned our members to stick to the original ideals of our leader, Yusuf. He
did not tell us to kill innocent people or to break into and steal from banks.
If there is a conflict between the faithful and the authorities our opposition
should be against the authorities and not the talakawas.

There are allegations that Boko Haram is being sponsored by some top level
politicians, is it true?

The truth is that politicians are the root cause of this Boko Haram problem.
For instance, in Borno State, the governor sponsors a group of armed youths
known as ECOMOG. It is this ECOMOG that the governor formed and looks after,
above the police, SSS and other security agencies. In Gombe State, the governor
has the Kalari. I was once contacted by a governorship candidate to kill an
opponent for a fee. The security agencies know what I am telling
you.


In Bauchi there is the Tarafuka, an armed group sponsored by the government,
and the government watches on, even when we have the SSS and police. That is why
our new leader, Mallam Abubakar Shekau, is calling on the youths to disregard
all government in the country – a call that has that has brought him and the
group into conflict with the government. Some politicians are now taking the
advantage of the conflict between the Boko Haram leadership and the authorities
to execute their own agenda.

Did Boko Haram bomb the United Nations Office in Abuja?

I would not answer the question of whether Boko Haram bombed the UN building
or not for some reasons.

Did Boko Haram bomb the Police headquarters in Abuja?

Yes, we bombed the police headquarters in Abuja. I told you earlier that when
the bombing of the Police headquarters happened I called the person who led the
attack, I was in front of the IGP. Yes, we bombed the police headquarters in
Abuja. They asked me why we bombed the police headquarters and I told him (IGP)
in his presence that it was because of his statement in Maiduguri that the days
of Boko Haram were numbered.


Why does Boko Haram bomb army barracks and attack police and security
operatives? What do they do to affect Islam or the work of Boko
Haram?

It is because of the indiscriminate killing of our members and innocent
people by the police without trial. They arrest innocent people harass and shoot
them and the authorities do nothing about it. Why should we then leave the
police?

Boko Haram is asking for Sharia in all the Northern states, and the states
have Sharia, so what is the problem again?

I have been waiting for this question. I was in detention when it was said
that Boko Haram had threatened to turn the entire North, or the country, into a
Sharia state. Since I came out of detention have you heard that Boko Haram is
threatening to turn the whole of Nigeria into an Islamic nation? The truth is
that those spreading such information are just lying against us. What we are
demanding is that those states that have independently declared their states
Sharia states should implement it to the letter. Have you seen Sharia cut the
hand of someone who steals a cow head, while someone who corruptly enriches
himself is left to go free? They have chased away local prostitutes and brought
in international red light prostitutes to replace them. They have also banned
local alcoholic drinks, yet they drink imported spirits in their respective
government houses. Is that Sharia? They are insincere, so they must be effective
in the implementation of Sharia. Sharia is being abused. I pity this country.
Mauritania that does not have any wealth exported Boko Haram into Nigeria. Now,
Libya that has money and wealth has collapsed. Who says that this countries
would not bring something worse than Boko Haram into
Nigeria


Source: http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20110920211659zg/sections/general-articles/boko-haram-leader-tishau-speaks/
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by Tintinnoty(m): 12:02pm On Jul 14, 2015
am with you
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jul 14, 2015
Tintinnoty:
am with you

Me two kiss
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by olapluto(m): 12:05pm On Jul 14, 2015
More revelations on Tishau and why we started losing the war against BH will be put here.

WHY POLICE ARE JITTERY OVER TISHAU -DIA

By NBF News
Previous | Next
The cold war between the police and the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA), over the release of self-confessed Boko Haram kingpin, Ali Tishau, deepened at the weekend with the DIA claiming that the police authorities released him because they were jittery over his disclosures.

A top security source in Abuja told Daily Sun on the condition of anonymity that the failure of the police to act on the information volunteered by Tishau was a miscalculation which was still hunting the hierarchy of the force.

Although the source faulted Tishau's claim that co-founded the dreaded Islamist sect he said there was no doubt Tishau had very useful information that could help the police in containing the group's insurgency.

'All the police are doing is an attempt to free themselves of culpability by saying that we released him. That is a lie. It is patent lie. This man is a freelance, he is just like any member of the public who wanted to give useful information to the police,' he said.

On why the police have failed to tell the public all they know about the man and how they got to know him and kept him in custody, the source alleged that the police refused to cooperate with the DIA until an order came compelling them to release Tishau to the DIA. 'He was released to us and there was an understanding that we should return him to them, which we did after talking with him for about a month or, so that he was in our custody,' he explained.

Contrary to police's claim that it was the DIA that released the man, the DIA source said that it was actually the police that released Tishau based on a court order. 'And in any case, there was a court order, he is not a terrorist. If he had been a member of Boko Haram, how come he did not bomb DIA? How come none of us have come to any harm. And if he was truly a Boko Haram member do you think the police would keep him alive. They would have killed him. So these are some of the issues that people may not understand.'

According to the source, Tishau is a Tiv, from Benue State and grew up in Jos, Plateau State. He had contact with the Boko Haram people. The source regretted that some of the people who have been arrested by the police are mere informants and not Boko Haram members even as they described as surprising the fact that none of the genuine Boko Haram people have been charged to court.

As an organization that is responsible for co-ordination of intelligence gathering for the Nigerian Armed Forces both internal and external, Daily Sun was told, the DIA is also charged with the responsibility of coordinating interrogation of all the security agencies on the Boko Haram crisis.

This much was revealed by a source from the Presidency who told Daily Sun that 'the DIA is supposed to coordinate joint interrogation of all the agencies, including the National Intelligence Agency, State Security Services, Police, among other security agencies, on this Boko Haram menace.' The source who does not want his name mentioned, said the DIA has recorded a lot of successes in Borno State, and were making head-ways in curbing the Boko Haram crisis.
A Presidency source who does not want to be named said that Aso Rock was in the know of all the dealings of the DIA as far as the Tishau revealing story is concerned as it is charged with the responsibility of coordinating interrogation of all the security agencies on the Boko Haram crisis. The top Presidency source said 'the DIA is supposed to coordinate joint interrogation of all the agencies, including the National Intelligence Agency, State Security Services, Police among other security agencies on this Boko Haram menace. 'The DIA has the right to release somebody if he is not a terrorist especially if there is court order to that effect. Everybody knows that,' the source added.

The top security source, explained how the DIA got to know about Tishau's detention in police custody and the role it played to get to him, he said. [b]'We got to know about Tishau through our own source who told us that there is such a man in police custody who has a lot of valuable information on all these things on aliens, on clerics on terrorism on political militias and all those things.

And we were given a number and we started talking with him in police custody. You can imagine somebody having telephone in police custody. So, we cultivated him and we saw that he was somebody who could be of assistance. So, we requested for him from the police. The police were reluctant till we used other means and eventually we got him.

'And we sent him back to the same police after we finished talking to him. And the police became very hostile with him. And when we needed him the second time, they refused to release him for over four months. 'As far as we are concerned, he is somebody who wants to help security. Especially from the angle of all these terrorists and he has been trying to tell the police so many important things but the police refused to act on it. So they can't blame anybody if they come up later to say that look police did not utilize my information.
[/b]
'He is not a member of Boko Haram or anything like and that is the first thing which the police did not tell the public and I think the press too did not bother to ask the question. I think the press too was a bit…..I think there is mischief in the whole thing. They are being too personal.

'But the truth is that we got to know of this Tishau, and we requested for him from the police. The police refused to cooperate with us for a long time till they were ordered to release him to us. He was released to us and there was a gentle man's agreement that we should return him to the police which we did after talking with him for about a month or there about that he was in our custody.'

'When we were satisfied that he wasn't any threat or anything, we released him back to the police based on that agreement.


Read more at: http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/70754/1/why-police-are-jittery-over-tishau-dia.html

This is how GEJ government messed up a big big chance to tame BH.

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Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by kazmanbanjoko(m): 12:14pm On Jul 14, 2015
Op, hw do yu get diz news without source. Are yu their information manager. Just wondering though.

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Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by olapluto(m): 12:18pm On Jul 14, 2015
But there seems to be a wide lacuna in the IGP’s version of the report.

For example, the police admitted having detained Tishau but failed to state how the suspect got into their custody. The police did not state whether he willingly reported to the police or he was arrested during an operation.

The IGP’s representative however parried all the questions asked by journalists to established the veracity of the various claims.
lalasticlala, lets balance this news on Monguno vs Tishau on fp

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Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by richidinho(m): 12:18pm On Jul 14, 2015
Am all ears
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by adook1: 12:19pm On Jul 14, 2015
this man was an agent.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by olapluto(m): 12:22pm On Jul 14, 2015
Why was OBJ not killed when he went to visit BH? Answer is Tishau! Shekau wanted OBJ killed.
This is when our intelligence services were actively infiltrating BH on a very plausible note. I am very happy that Monguno will re-establish all these communication lines and hopefully the suicide bombings will be contained seriously.

Some Nigerians are actively seeking to help the country out of insurgency, but the security agencies were actively putting them down. Today, a news item on an informant taxi driver being detained in Maiduguri is another issue. Boko Haram are not ghosts. Some people actually have INTEL on the next suicide bombing. Why must our security services continue to harrass such people?

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Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by TIMEISWISDOM(m): 12:24pm On Jul 14, 2015
this is an eye opener
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jul 14, 2015
shocked shocked
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by oduastates: 2:11pm On Jul 14, 2015
Corruption and incompetence
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by MalcoImX: 2:49pm On Jul 14, 2015
olapluto:

lalasticlala, lets balance this news on Monguno vs Tishau on fp


And this is even more detailed and explanatory than torkaka's own. Let me use the FP people's lingua: Ishi, Lala food don done/Lala, Ishi see food.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by Nobody: 3:09pm On Jul 14, 2015
why is this not on the front page yet
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by robosky02(m): 3:11pm On Jul 14, 2015
front page pls

@lalasticlala
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by segalex: 3:13pm On Jul 14, 2015
God bless you for this info
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by arewafederation: 3:26pm On Jul 14, 2015
Interesting....... cool
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by phyllosilicate(m): 3:38pm On Jul 14, 2015
surprising ... I hope this man is still alive.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by Volksfuhrer(m): 3:39pm On Jul 14, 2015
This should shut TANoids up. Sai baba surely knows what he's doing. Monguno is the man for that job.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by doctokwus: 1:10pm On Jul 16, 2015
Just getting to read this post today having been referred.
Quite revealing and really fits into the analysis I have made myself that DIA under Munguno couldn't have released this guy without either being authorized to do so or wanting to use him to infiltrate the BH ranks because of his links and credible Intel.
It also rubbishes that article in the nation newspaper by a journalist who seemed to have just one aim:to tarnish the image of Munguno,obviously by some vested interests.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by olapluto(m): 1:49pm On Jul 16, 2015
doctokwus:
Just getting to read this post today having been referred.
Quite revealing and really fits into the analysis I have made myself that DIA under Munguno couldn't have released this guy without either being authorized to do so or wanting to use him to infiltrate the BH ranks because of his links and credible Intel.
It also rubbishes that article in the nation newspaper by a journalist who seemed to have just one aim:to tarnish the image of Munguno,obviously by some vested interests.
barcanista will avoid this post as much as he can. lalasticlala and ishilove dont also deem it worthy of fp to counter barcanista's ignorant thread on fp.

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Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by aminho(m): 2:25pm On Jul 16, 2015
Fact of the matter
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by themilanway(m): 3:04pm On Jul 16, 2015
OP thanks for this news.I'm completely speechless.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by CyberWolf: 3:10pm On Jul 16, 2015
OP is trying to do damage control....what's the action of DIA after talking with him for a month? The police said the DIA released him while DIA here is claiming that it's the police that released him. Who do we believe then? What did monguno do after talking with him for a month? Apparently DIA concludes that he is not a BH member thus compelled the court to order for his release.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by olapluto(m): 3:26pm On Jul 16, 2015
CyberWolf:
OP is trying to do damage control....what's the action of DIA after talking with him for a month? The police said the DIA released him while DIA here is claiming that it's the police that released him. Who do we believe then? What did monguno do after talking with him for a month? Apparently DIA concludes that he is not a BH member thus compelled the court to order for his release.
You dont know how Intelligence services work. You think they are like police that kills every bearded person as a BH suspect?
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by brightlomo(m): 3:38pm On Jul 16, 2015
only God knows wu is saying the truth.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by omolami: 3:40pm On Jul 16, 2015
This damage control will not work. The truth is that in any hand and taking over , there is a written document to be signed by both parties. Let the police and the DIA show Nigerians this document if it exist at all. This will clearly exonerate either the police or DIA, period.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by CyberWolf: 4:08pm On Jul 16, 2015
olapluto:

You dont know how Intelligence services work. You think they are like police that kills every bearded person as a BH suspect?
what was the reaction of DIA under Moguno after talking with Tishu for a month? Answer the question and stop rambling angry
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by olapluto(m): 4:22pm On Jul 16, 2015
CyberWolf:
what was the reaction of DIA under Moguno after talking with Tishu for a month? Answer the question and stop rambling angry
You must think Im as unintelligent as you are. If you cannot read the details of the post and make sense of it, then jog off mate. Im not one to answer senseless questions. If you want DIA's reaction, call their office.
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by CyberWolf: 4:28pm On Jul 16, 2015
olapluto:

You must think Im as unintelligent as you are. If you cannot read the details of the post and make sense of it, then jog off mate. Im not one to answer senseless questions. If you want DIA's reaction, call their office.
exactly what I expected from you. You are nothing but a useless goat..That's why your stupiid thread is dry like a grave yard. Now go and die..ediot angry
Re: Lets Revisit Aliyu Tishau (boko Haram Cofounder) by drss(m): 5:32pm On Jul 16, 2015
What a mass of contradiction! On the first paragraph Tishau said Boko haram wants to Islamise Nigeria. In another Paragraph the DIA are saying Tishau, who was the earliest member of boko is not a boko member. On one paragragh Tishau said; (We) boko haram members bombed police head qtrs because of the comment the IG made. Yet, DIA are still maintaining their stance that he's not a terrorist. What is this? That was how many boko haram members were released in the past owing to outright lies, mis-information and deliberate distortion of facts just like they tried to promote the lie that GEJ was the sponsor of Boko haram.
In one line, they are saying politicians are the root of Boko Haram, but it is public knowledge that Mohammed Yusuf was the founder of Boko Haram with the mission to islamise the entire country. Do they think we are frying pans?
They want Sharia law to be practice to the latter were those who steal will have their hands cut off. Is that not what Buhari wants? Buhari himself said that he's commited to the implementation of sharia across the country and even said that christians should not worry about muslims cutting their limps. Now he is the President. What a joke!

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