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Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by trustman: 9:03pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Scholar8200:Remember that mankind was "... ... dead in the trespasses and sins" (Eph. 2:1) when God "... ... being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved-(verses 4-5). So don't think that grace cannot be extended to a person in a situation like that of the Good Samaritan. Grace is all over the Scripture. Jesus' treatment of the woman caught in adultery is best described as what? GRACE! The emphasis in grace is on the giver. Not the recipient. On the parable of the Prodigal Son, I want to believe you see it as a parable that teaches about grace. But then, grace in what area? Grace in salvation or grace in RELATIONSHIP? This 'certain man' had two sons. So they were ALREADY his sons. They had a family relationship with the man. When the story ends the same relationship was still there - a father and his two sons. Both had charted different paths. Was one 'better' than the other? Was the one who lived in self- indulgence 'worse' than the one who questioned his father's wisdom in decision? Was his questioning of his father's wisdom not an affront against the father? Was that not a display of self-righteous arrogance? Who owned the things - himself or the father? The story shows how every believer has fellowship with God but can get out of that fellowship. The prodigal son became carnal. He suffered for his carnality. While suffering he was still a son of the 'certain man'. That family status did not change. He later realized he had made a mistake and decided to make a U-turn and return to his father. His father disregarded every thing he had done, accepted his U-turn and restored him to fellowship. It wasn't that "he exchanges the old for the new and that newness is visible to all! ". He did not DO it by himself. It was the father who in GRACE provided him the newness. The father's eagerness to receive and forgive his son speaks about his integrity. His actions towards his son (indeed sons, including the older) shows grace! They did not deserve what the father did. The father NEVER stopped loving them. That is grace! Whether in salvation or in the Christian life, grace is always "A favor done without expectation of return; absolute freeness of the lovingkindness of God to men finding its only motive in the bounty and free heartedness of the Giver; unearned and unmerited favor" |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by trustman: 9:06pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
vooks: Election occurs (from our point of view as humans) at regeneration. From God's side it was a sovereign decision He made in eternity past ("before the foundation of the world". Election is God specifically setting apart for honor those who choose to believe in Christ. |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by 5solas(m): 1:20am On Aug 29, 2015 |
vooks:You have to ask Christ how genuine His offer is, in the light of the following verses: Matt. 11 John 17 You have to tell us why everyone doesn't get saved. 1 Like |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by 5solas(m): 1:32am On Aug 29, 2015 |
trustman:Excellent! In harmony with the rest of your posts this should have read , ''Election is God specifically setting apart for honor those who Trust Vooks to take you up on that! |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by trustman: 8:15am On Aug 29, 2015 |
5solas:I agree with you. I trust it's concise enough for Vooks. 1 Like |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by 5solas(m): 8:27am On Aug 29, 2015 |
trustman:Thanks. True. Let's see how he handles it. |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by 5solas(m): 10:19am On Aug 29, 2015 |
trustman:Epic. |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by vooks: 12:13pm On Aug 29, 2015 |
5solas:This is all I have been saying all along. You choose to believe in Christ, you are Elect. It is not that you are Elect so you choose to believe in Christ. Anybody turning to Christ is Elect. Calvinism has it in reverse. God chooses those who will believe in Him. Perish the rest 1 Like |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by 5solas(m): 3:36pm On Aug 29, 2015 |
vooks:Still waiting. |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by 5solas(m): 3:41pm On Aug 29, 2015 |
vooks:If you have a proper understanding of the elects and election we will not be having this debate 1 Like |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by vooks: 4:14pm On Aug 29, 2015 |
5solas:If you were any coherent and spent less time heckling, you'd have understood what I was saying....anyway, we are here to lift the feeble hands |
Re: ( MUST READ) Four Reasons Why We Cant Lose Our Salvation by vooks: 4:15pm On Aug 29, 2015 |
5solas:For what? |
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