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Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Lanretoye(m): 5:58pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
the yardstick don break... |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 6:32pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
LouisVanGaal: APC began campaign of character assassination,hatred, blackmail, mudslinging and insults before elections...even as far back as 2013/2014...PDP was on defensive during election...Don't twist history plzzz |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 6:56pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
anulaxad: Am sorry if you felt insulted... Jonathan earns 14million plus as salary... but I didn't ask you for his salary...I clearly mentioned allowances and estacodes...That's where the money is bro...Eg senator earns about 600,000 as salary but have allowance running over hundreds of million...Do you know how much the president is paid for seating allowance? Travelling allowance? Security vote etc...Politicians make money through allowances not salary... Even Fayose challenged Buhari to this fact when buhari wanted to play the politics of 50% salary cut... I am well aware of Jonathan's home in otuoke...Its not an estate bro...Quit exaggerating just to give him a bad name... I am yet to see the original owners of that farm stead complain that it was forcefully taken or illegally acquired...BTW I wonder why ALL of you saw nothing wrong in Tinubu forcing out an educational institution so as to site his personal TV station in same land but will crucify Jonathan for his farm... In all you have been writing...NOTHING have you shown to show Jonathan looted or stole or whatever... I need someone to substantiate his corruption tag with facts... BTW he earns his pay as ex civil servant... ex deputy governor...ex governor...ex VP...and now again ex president.... Check out the allowances attached to those offices....thanks |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by ChappyChase: 7:17pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
citizenY:Hmmm, well you no be thief but them see some stolen things for your cupboard, them go label you thief! That's the case of GEJ.... |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by LouisVanGaal(m): 8:18pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:cite examples or shut up! Which character did APC assasinate Just mention 1 let me help u open can of PDP worms before elections..hw de played politics of biTterness and desperation while in power... |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:48pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
LouisVanGaal: Thanks...I rather shut up as you advised to avoid more insults...You can go ahead with your adverts...thankz |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by IdisuleOurOwn(m): 8:53pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth, I always shake my head when I see you opening threads to defend politicians. I am an independent thinker, despite that I support Buhari. This people are stealing your future and that of your unborn children. This people are taking what belongs to the nation as their personal properties. They become demi gods so that your parents, yourself and children will be bounded in poverty. How much is your father salary? Is he not doing a hard work? How much does he earn in a month? How much does GEJ and the rest politicians both in APC and pdp (my brother /tribe) who doesn't do hard work but to sit in office and fly in private jet are earning? They steal and steal everything and all you do is to open countless threads to defend them. Look at the country and ask yourself what is working. If your father develop stroke, he will die (God forbid) because the hospitals around does not have facilities to handle such a case, while GEJ and politicians you keep on defending will fly out in an air ambulance to foreign countries for treatment. If your mother travel from North to south in a public or private bus she will develop body pain because of bad road network. But you can defend a thief who fly around like a bird in a chartered jet with our common wealth. Your granny pension is stolen, he/she is left to die like a rat beaten by rain. Your parents were paid peanuts for working hard, while the oga you defend steals largese of their money. Your entitlements and benefits were stolen and all you have to do is bark like a dog whose bone was stolen just because a particular person is from your region, have same party with you, same religion, same state. Think man, think! I copied this from Folykaze, but edit some parts. 1 Like |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Yomboy4ever(m): 9:40pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Op if u wana knw how u go need chek guinness book of records if him name never enter am sure dem go still dey plan to put am by tommorw. Cos dats d only person that does not see stealing as corruption.. |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by LouisVanGaal(m): 10:34pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:Cite examples dude and dont look/go 4a cheap blackmail...you knw dat u dont av a case...take up the gaunlet and prove me wrong!!!! |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:12pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
IdisuleOurOwn: Sorry if this pains u... 1)I don't and can't fall to cheap emotional blackmail... 2)Direct your sermon if you are so interested to APC agents here...APC is the only party that has paid agents online...APC introduced politics of hatred and blackmail... as well as recruiting online touts...they need your sermon more...because they sold their future and conscience for peanuts... 3)Advice yourself too...because I see you and your clique insulting, mudslinging, blackmailing and lying against leaders who aren't from your region and religion... 4)Be sure to see more threads from me as the spirit directs me... 5)Take the advice to your father, who you said plays local politics in kogi state...because kogi state needs all the sermon they can get now...thanks 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by TRUTHTOPOWER: 11:12pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: (1) Is GEJ a devil? certainly not (2) Is mistake a defence for the irregularities of his administration? Irrelevant question. the objective of society is not to determine mistakes or crimes but to, amongst others, ensure law and order by effectively preventing or correcting mistakes and crimes. (3) Is there anything illegal in anti-mistakes (corruption) war of PMB govt? No. if any, the Court of law will render justice to the aggrieved. (4) What is the purpose of Criminal justice? deterrence. (5) Is there any jurisdiction in which public officials are merely prevented institutionally from stealing without penalty in the event of stealing? None. (6) what is rule of law? equality before the law and observance of human rights. (7) How did GEJites use Media against GMB? I will like to see your link to any view or concern you raised if the allegations sponsored against GMB bothered you. Or was he not entitled to fair trial during campaign? Who determines where when and how to be fair besides the law? Conclusion:- GEJ will not go to trial because of the office he held but for as long as his footsoldiers are running away from justice, the public awareness of their deed will not cease. I will therefore urge that you should be interested in how to recover loots and the ends to which the lots should be spent. If you have actionable information on APC members pls feel free to bring it forward. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by dat9jaguy(m): 11:14pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: Granted GEJ introduced TSA but he did not have the political will to enforce this directive.As at May 28,2015 ministries and MDAs were still having multiple accounts with commercial banks but it took the coming of PMB,who without changing a single thing in the order,to implement and enforce the directive. STRONG MEN BUILD STRONG INSTITUTIONS . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:20pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
dat9jaguy: I wonder where you got your views from...Greater percentage if not all MDAs are compliant already before Jonathan exited...thanks |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by dat9jaguy(m): 11:31pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/08/treasury-single-account-giving-life-to-jonathans-dead-policy-directives/ Enjoy. |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:37pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
TRUTHTOPOWER: Sorry if I don't respond to all your stories... 1)Jonathan can't be declared guilty before any investigation...as APC and buhari are doing now... 2)Buhari should do his investigation without blackmailing people... and allow courts to finish up... 3)Strong institutions has nothing to do with strong individuals... Just like we saw in the few ones Jonathan successfully implemented or built... 4)Jail isn't a panacea to any crime...Yam & goat theory of Jonathan will help u understand this more... 5)APC already gagged and poisoned the media long before Jonathan/PDP woke up to reality... They were only on the defensive...hence they APC introduced politics of hatred, bile and insults against leaders as well as online paid touts and agents...who malign APC/Tinubu opponents and blackmail them daily...facts are sacred bro....don't distort it... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:58pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
dat9jaguy: Manage this tonight...network isn't too good here for any search...I will help you with number of MDAs that's complied with the directive even before buhari came with his body language propaganda and lies....Did you see where they accredited even IPPIS to buhari in your link...APC is sick really...destroying people with wicked lies and confusion... http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/fg-saves-n500bn-through-implementation-of-single-treasury-account/ |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:59pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
dat9jaguy: Manage this tonight...network isn't too good here for any search...I will help you with number of MDAs that's complied with the directive even before buhari came with his body language propaganda and lies....Did you see where they accredited even IPPIS to buhari in your link...APC is sick really...destroying people with wicked lies and confusion... http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/fg-saves-n500bn-through-implementation-of-single-treasury-account/ BTW Strong institutions has NOTHING to do with strong men... thanks https://www.nairaland.com/2515237/jonathan-already-ordered-all-mdas/2 |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by IdisuleOurOwn(m): 2:42pm On Aug 24, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: Sorry, I couldn't respond to all your stories. No 5. The man was never a politician but a civil servant (retired now). He has never hold any elected office. He was only in acting capacity (caretaker) when LG council boss tenure came to an end. Pending when election will be conducted. Only if you know how LG works. Never the less than, always mentioned me whenever you open a wailing thread. Because of you I will become an APC member. Nairaland is really a huge comedy relieve with threads like yours. |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:26pm On Aug 24, 2015 |
IdisuleOurOwn: Wow...I will mention so far I remember... keep deceiving yourself...maybe you have been pro-Jonathan and PDP before now...hypocrites 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by uniklinkum(m): 8:30pm On Aug 24, 2015 |
Rubbish!!!The otueke drunk is not only a senseless kleptomaniac, he is also an irredeemable common criminal with the sense of flipping reetard some inches past acute imbe..cilic |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by anulaxad(m): 2:33pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: Mr. howcomesIlovelies, I indeed urge you to watch this video with an open mind, I hope it is not to much for you. While PDP campaigned on propaganda, APC specifically made a video about Jonathan, all factual,there is nothing that you can deny in this video as they have provided proof and a detailed analysis. It's around 30 mins, be patient. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqqFowdsHl8 |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 3:27pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
anulaxad: @bolded...I hope you really hate insults sincerely... I stopped watching immediately I saw it discussing persons and not issues...and the intro about Jonathan reducing governance to bigotry is a BIG lie because; 1)APC is a political party founded on bigotry... Religious bigotry for the North and Ethnic bigotry for SW...why project their image on others?... 2)APC based on its foundation introduced FULL blown bigotry into the system...And as with all thieves and mischievous persons keep pointing hands on others... 3)You aren't exempted from this bigotry too...because I saw your thread on that topic...You listed ONLY SE/SS ethnic warlords here and hypocritically left behind SW ethnic champions...Smh... 4)Did PDP campaign on propaganda...How come APC controlled 90% of ALL media groups?...Punch, Premiumtimes, Leadership, Saharareporters, Dailytrust, Dailypost, Tvc, Osundefender, TheNation etc Which party had ONLINe paid touts who spew lies daily here and in other online outfit?...Which party had a propaganda room sited in Lagos otherwise called situation room?... 5)Discussing FFK dad and then FFK...can these men be compared to Tinubu in corruption and dirt accumulation... 6)Greater percentage of Jonathan's cabinet were from the north...Most of his achievements are in the north... 7)Anyway, I need to go back to topic of this thread...I have derailed so much...Counter the facts in the topic as against what obtained in the past...Maybe you need to also take a look at our TI rating before & after Jonathan...thanks 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by anulaxad(m): 3:42pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: Did you see the part about his farms in Abuja? |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:21pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
anulaxad: 1)I expected you to counter my points... 2)How is anybody owning a farm now a crime? 3)Why not seek out information about allowances accruing to a former deputy governor, a former governor, a former vice president and then a president and compare it with the living standard cum investments of Jonathan...If he's not worth the investment then we can start talking of corruption and embezzlement... Am waiting |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by MIM77(m): 5:29pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Extremely corrupt! |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:42pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
MIM77:What parameter did you use to arrive at this conclusion |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:42pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
MIM77:What parameter did you use to arrive at this conclusion |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by anulaxad(m): 9:20pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: I'm in a good mood so I will not embarass you, find me his allowances from deputy governor to President. I can promise you it cannot even reach up to a million pounds(310 million Naira). Yet he is building an estate in his hometown, have you forget that he built he's mother a mansion, he father another mansion (again remeber this was during his presidency not governor years) and they are all located in his estate. Know don't give that nonsense that it is not an estate, he owns a monopoly of homes, some of which belongs to his family members and the rest for himself. One mansion in that estate could not cost any less that 4 million pounds infact since it is Otueke it will probably cost more due to lack of available infrastructure. So explain to me how he has made enough money for a farm that is worth in its billions of Naira and the various manisons in his estate that in totally honesty should cost more than £ 4 million pounds each, on allowances that dont even reach the total amount of one Mansion in that estate. Oh, I do remember that 1 billion naira(4 million pounds back then) food budget allowance for his family alone in Aso Rock Villa, can you explain to me what 1 billion naira is needed for? At this point I believe you need to give in to the fact that you have lost this arguement and you should denouce Gej. This our money for crying out loud, 1 |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by anulaxad(m): 9:23pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: I'm in a good mood so I will not embarrass you, find me his allowances from deputy governor to President. I can promise you it cannot even reach up to a million pounds(310 million Naira). Yet he is building an estate in his home town, have you forget that he built he's mother a mansion, he father another mansion (again remember this was during his presidency not governor years) and they are all located in his estate. Now don't give that nonsense that it is not an estate, he owns a monopoly of homes, some of which belongs to his family members and the rest for himself. One mansion in that estate could not cost any less than 4 million pounds in fact since it is Otueke it will probably cost more due to the lack of available infrastructure. So explain to me how he has made enough money for a farm that is worth in its billions of Naira and the various mansions in his estate that in totally honesty should cost more than £ 4 million pounds each, on allowances that don't even reach the total amount of one Mansion in that estate. Oh, I do remember that 1 billion naira(4 million pounds back then) food budget allowance for his family alone in Aso Rock Villa, can you explain to me what 1 billion naira is needed for? At this point I believe you need to give in to the fact that you have lost this argument and you should denounce Gej. This our money for crying out loud, Imagine what 1 billion Naira can do for your village alone. Think before you come here to argue recklessly. |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:38am On Aug 28, 2015 |
anulaxad: smh...naija don suffer...Imagine intellectual prowess of the guy discussing with me...Plz I dont do beer parlour gists...Since you have no facts to show except running your mouth on innanities...I will rather ignore you...BTW 1billion feeding is for presidency not president...Go and learn the difference... thanks |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:41am On Aug 28, 2015 |
anulaxad: If only a madman knows that he's mad... Your IQ quotient is too low ...thanks |
Re: How Corrupt Was/Is Jonathan? by anulaxad(m): 11:02am On Aug 28, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: If only an ignoramus,knew he was ignorant. So I am mad for telling you the truth. You are so arrogantly naive to the extent that even if the truth slapped you across your face you will still defend your concocting lies. Anywhere that I see you defending Jonathan on Nairaland I will refer you back to your thread and my post as you refuse to answer the questions that I have put in front of you. What a low-life. |
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