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Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by sammyj: 11:40am On Apr 13, 2015 |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Gamesmart: 11:42am On Apr 13, 2015 |
Afam4eva: And which human beings (bar mentally-ill patients or drugged up addict) do you know that would not be scared of being wasted? Once you join the army, you are suppose not to fear death? |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Gamesmart: 11:44am On Apr 13, 2015 |
gocare: Please where did you get this info from? |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by SLIDEwaxie(m): 11:48am On Apr 13, 2015 |
Bialegend:true...I heard he puts on woman wrapper and tied head gear to escape to ivroy coast then... Mumu 4 Likes |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by russellino: 7:57am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Gamesmart: I understand your point but he was faced with suicidal devotion to duty or retreat from sure death. Mandela, Ojukwu, and many others have done it all through history. I am sure he thought Nigeria would break as the northerners were calling for araba 1 Like |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by stonemasonn: 8:21am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Gamesmart:I wonder why there were few yoruba soldiers in the army |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Duru1(m): 8:40am On Dec 14, 2017 |
maxsiollun: Nobody in Nigeria tells cock and bull fairy tales like Yari.ba people. These jokers are colorful narrators. Even Capt. Andrew Nwankwo corroborated William Walbe's account. 1 Like |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Duru1(m): 8:50am On Dec 14, 2017 |
maxsiollun: Funny story indeed. I guess Ogundipe was no coward because he tried to take over by pacing around and cowering inside NNS Nigeria. Even 2Lt Odu who was physically present at the scene of so-called order said it was a fat lie. In addition, Lt. Cdr. Soroh narrated that Ogundipe never left his ship until he boarded another ship to London. 1 Like |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by PFRB: 8:50am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Arnold1: Ojukwu was a coward. Ogundipe was a coward. Gowon was a coward. Buhari was a coward. Babangida was coward. OBJ was a coward. 1 Like |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by russellino: 9:30am On Dec 14, 2017 |
PFRB: Obasanjo was the biggest coward “Then, Murtala was killed. I think it is public knowledge that Obasanjo fled on the day Murtala Muhammed was killed. He remained in hiding until the coup was aborted and he reached out, first, to M.D Yusuf (Inspector-General of Police) who then called him and he came out of hiding, and joined us in Dodan Barracks. -TY Danjuma |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by gidgiddy: 9:51am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Ogundipe is a classic case of Yoruba cowardice. With the death of Ironsi, Brigadier Ogundipe waa next in line to be President as the next highest ranking Officer. But what did he do? He ran away to London without a fight despite the fact that he had the support of two Military Governors, Ojukwu and Ejoor. Ogundipe could have declared himself commander in chief, rallied his fellow Yorubas in West, Igbos in the East and Governor Ejoor in the Mid-West to stop the Northerners. But he ran away like the true coward he was. Ogundipe was chased out of Yorubaland, his own fathers land, by Northerners. At least Ojukwu fought for 3 years before running away, Ogundipe ran away without a fight. Thats why I laugh at Yorubas who call Ojukwu a coward. At least Ojukwu fought before running away, what did your own son do? Ogundipe submitted to Northern domination like a Chicken 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by oilyngbati(m): 10:14am On Dec 14, 2017 |
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Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by slinger: 10:22am On Sep 12, 2019 |
So, this is 2019 and I'm reading this book - The Biafra Story (The making of an African Legend) - by this British author Frederick Forsyth. In the book, he narrates the events that led to the civil war and mentioned that at some point then Colonel Ojukwu reached out to Brig Ogundipe asking him as the most superior officer to declare himself Supreme Commander that he'd back him. He says Ogundipe gave a "Crass", 3-minute speech asking everyone to be calm and disappeared to Dahomey from which he migrated to London. I wouldn't know the exact circumstances and Ogundipe's thought process so I can't say for sure but as a Military Man in that position, I think it is both customary, logical, morally right and even almost honourable that He'd have taken over (Gee! the killings were sporadic and unidirectional - targeting Easterners), get united with the other military governors and prolly given Northern Nigeria their wish for ARABA. Okay, he eventually migrated to London and became High Commissioner, I haven't found any record of anything he did to assuage tensions in the country from where he was. I think that is messed up. I wouldn't say he was a coward cos this would be highly opinionated and would depend on perspective, I would say he was a terrible soldier in every sense of the word and doesn't deserve my respect. And folks who think Ojukwu was a coward, I think you should get your facts right, at least try to. Read about how much wealth his dad amassed across the country and how Ojukwu was fully aware that they'd lose the lot of those if he went to war and still went cos he was fighting for what he believed - that called putting your money and spirit where your mouth is. Have a little respect. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by T9ksy(m): 6:23pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
stonemasonn: The answer to your silent question is simple- Awo's free education for his people. Awo was an orphan at the age of 9 yet he rose up to be a luminary lawyer. Even the pepper in the market have dreams of her wards going to greater heights like Awo than se fing them into the military (where she may lose them to war) It's on record that at that particular time in our history as a young nation, only yorubas didn't fulfill their quota in the armed forces with barely 500 servicemen out of a grand total of 10, 050. 2 Likes |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by pmartineze(m): 12:42am On Mar 30, 2020 |
I think Brigadier Ogundipe was not a coward but the environment he found himself didn't allow him to act. Agui ironsi populated national guard with northerners. All the commanders of national guard were northerners. All the officers commanding troops were northerners. Igbos and yorubas occupied positions where they did not command troops. He made wise decision as he commanded no troops. Ironsi caused all the problems. |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by 989900: 11:54pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
slinger: You're 90%+ correct. |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Throwback: 12:18am On Jun 07, 2020 |
See intellectual debate without the bigotry that has now engulfed the forum. I blame the pitiable current state of the forum to the moderators and the owner who are always to slow to action, resulting in a rejoinder to bigotry that eventually escalates into an online war of daily battles. |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by 989900: 12:18am On Jun 07, 2020 |
I got a telephone call from Brigadier Ogundipe about ten days after he left the shores of Nigeria. He was speaking from Las Palmas. They had been taken to board the M.V. Aureol the night I dropped them off and the ship set sail the following day at noon. The full story from Theo and some other sources are online . . . piecing them together, there is no way absolving Brigadier Ogundipe of Nigeria's woes from thereafter. He was a soldier that carelessly and undeservedly occupied a very sensitive position. Imagine a Tunde Idiagbon, Fajuyi, or Raji Rasaki in those situation before, during, and after the counter-coup . . . consequences of Ogundipe's act of cowardice, carelessness, and dereliction of service, live with us down to this day. The least he would have done was to take sides with the Midwest and the East, and we would have ended this North vs South drama once and for all. Even if he had to run, how about some self-esteem, dignity, honour . . . not be some errand boy high commissioner. P.S. The OP's illustration didn't actually happen, at least not in the way described. |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by manuelreports: 4:26am On Jun 07, 2020 |
To answer your Question Did any of their tribe carry out any Coup in Nigeria Corwadice runs in their blood |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Nobody: 5:10am On Jun 07, 2020 |
Bialegend: Like Agbariojuwku Ojukwu like ogundipe 2 Likes
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Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Nobody: 5:14am On Jun 07, 2020 |
T9ksy: U mean this?? 2 Likes
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Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Nobody: 5:15am On Jun 07, 2020 |
Gamesmart: Why then did Agbariojuwku fear death n sacrifice 3 millions Igbos. Upon that,the present igbo stil serve Fulani 2 Likes
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Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Nobody: 5:19am On Jun 07, 2020 |
gidgiddy: Yes ooo.. My brother you are very right..... Agbariojuwku fought and ran away... He saved his life and killed 3 millions Igbos... Sacrificed ur fore fathers... Ogundipe ran and did sacrifice anybody... Agbariojuwku Ojukwu didn't escape Nigeria as an Ojukwu, he escaped like a pussy ;d Ogundipe escape like a man with balls n dick U see the difference so?? 2 Likes
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Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Nobody: 5:23am On Jun 07, 2020 |
gidgiddy: Now see ur leaders bending n licking buhari toes
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Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by 989900: 6:02am On Jun 07, 2020 |
Unfortunately, the thread would always take the shallow tribal route. |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by T9ksy(m): 3:16pm On Jun 07, 2020 |
timekeeper1: @ bolded.....................that's the true definition of a HERO in alaibo parlance! A "general" who led his people into war and later fled but not before sacrificing 3million of his people on a "chicken run". He came back, less than a decade after his reprehensible flight to lick the bu.tt hole.s of the same northerners who slaughtered his people during the war......................but his emotionally-gullible folks named him, a HERO, conferred myriad chieftaincy titles on him such as Ikemba, eze wuruwuru ati bebelo and also gifted him (for his courage-nay-cowardice) with the prettiest "animashaun"-olosho in the land, as a child bride. 1 Like |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Sagay212: 4:29pm On Jun 07, 2020 |
Call him whatever you like. At least he did not lead millions of his kinsmen to their early grave like agbari ojukwu. A brave man in igbo land is that man that leads millions of gullible and daft men to war, gets them slaughtered like chickens and absconds to Abidjan dressed like a woman. He got to abidjan and started phucking ashawos with money he stole from his daft followers. That's the same thing dilector is doing presently. You will think people who claim to be brave and smart would have learnt from their fore father's foo.lishness...but it seems they are cursed with it. 1 Like |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Uchek(m): 5:55am On Oct 11, 2023 |
Agree with u! Dede1: |
Re: Brigadier Ogundipe A Hero Or Coward by Uchek(m): 5:58am On Oct 11, 2023 |
Interesting! maxsiollun: |
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