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This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by parisbookaddict(f): 8:45pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
This religion promises its followers hell and they embrace it in ignorance and some in denial. These verses are from the quran, not hadiths, but from the unholy book of Islam, the quran or "Oh run", its a suicide bomber. [size=13pt] Surah 19:71: “There shall be none of you but shall descend into the same (hell): This is an established decree upon thy Lord.” (Sale) [/size] Here is another translation, for those they will say it just a mistranslation. Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned.Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise,he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illusion (Quran 3:185) And a simpler straight to the point translation. [size=13pt]Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that every one of you will be taken to hell.” (Sarwar) [/size] Before u say how would mohammed have said this?? You have to realise he said a lot of asinine things that people concluded he wAs mad. Surprisingly, it is mentioned in the quran. [size=13pt] Surah 15, verse 6: *And they [the Arab pagans] say, ‘O you to whom the Reminder has been revealed! You are most surely insane!’ [/size] And the very next verse of surah 19:71 says. Surah 19:72: “Then (Thumma) We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.” (Pickthall) Do you realize the implications of this promise, every Muslim including the nice ones(including the ones u know ) are promised hell by there own book. Do you want your muslim friends in hell?? As a Christian its your duty to wake these people up. They are decieved that after a period of time they shall be taken out of Hell and into Paradise, But then mohammed aka Islamic allah made them a promise, He told them that if they die fighting for his cause(Lesser jihad, not to be confused with greater jiahd), he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” Surah 61:10-13: O ye who believe! SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM A GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive your utmost in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. And another favour will He bestow, which ye do love, – help from Allah and a speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali) For 1400 years these indoctrinated brainwashed humans have given their life to the cause of mohammed aka Islamic allah, Muslim suicide bombers are motivated by this murderous bargain with Allah. [size=13pt] Why did the muslim deity/ Islamic allah include such a promise if he knew that it would inspire such evil in the world. [/size] Today you may know these jihadists as terrorists in every country with significant muslim population. The prophet of Islam even implies that he was a terrorist. [size=13pt] Qur’an 8:12— Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil [size=17pt] TERROR [/size] into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” [/size] Do u see why muslims are killing people in Syria, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Nigeria, kenya, France etc. Its not because of poverty or mohammed cartoons or western foreign policy. Its becaUse of this bargain. " wage jihad and head straight to paradise). I invite bashbabe2 lexiconkabir mustymatic EzioAuditore abduljabbar4 tartar9 Rilwayne001 9jaforlife Abuamam tola9ja Sweetnecta vedaxcool Empiree eshbeewanna and any muslim knowledge in the quran to explain these verses, provide clearer interpretations or prove that mohammed didn't really mean it. [size=13pt] Mohammed unsurprisingly gave more instructions and if u are a Christian, here is one you should take particular notice of; Qur'an (9:29)-"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book(Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." So as a Christian u must pay the jizya with willing SUBMISSION AND MUST FEEL SUBDUED or be fought. Christians in muslim countries pay this jizyah to this day, if u can't afford to the Sharia law derived from the quran says to convert the Christian/Jew to Islam or kill him or her. [/size] Then a disturbing but expected admission of the prophet of Islam; [size=13pt] Surah 72:21: Say, “I possess no power to harm you, nor to guide you.” (Khalifa) another translation: “It is not in my power to cause you harm, or to bring you to the Right Path.” (Hilali-Khan) [/size] Do you really understand the gravity of Muhammad’s statement when he said, “I possess no power to guide you” or “to bring you to the Right Path”? Is it not a prophet’s duty to guide the congregation of God to the “Right Path”? Can you now depend on this man to guide you to salvation? Would it be wise for you to do so? Why then is he making promises and claiming he is a prophet if he can't guide people rightly. As a Christian reading quran passages is very tough, there are a lot of threats to non muslims, approval to take sex slaves, beat women, rambles and rants and commands to fight people. You can see its a pack of lies but muslims don't see it that way and we must wake them up. |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by guynupe(m): 8:58pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
I so much pity your life...... just be careful 2 Likes |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by ByfireByfire: 9:01pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
Tell them. Religion of the most utmost wickedness from the pit of hell. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by pneumaticos(m): 9:03pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
guynupe: U christian or muslim If muslim...ur second name is mumunatu |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 9:26pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. Revelation 3:9 Abrahams blessings are mine. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by resty4(m): 9:33pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
Dats muslim pugatory.islam n catholic r twin brodas very deceitful n misleadg. 1 Like |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 11:27pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
@parisbookaddict, i will recommend you stop copying and pasting blindly, in order not to embarrass yourself. Q19:71 "there is not one of you but will pass over it(hell): this is with your lord; a decree which must be accomplished." The arabic wording used for the bolded is "illa waariduhakana a'la" meaning "but pass over it(hell)" not to enter it(hell) as your gurus you copied and pasted from claimed. Now lets read verse 70 that comes before 71, Q19:70"Then, verily we know best those who are most worthy of being burnt therein" which implies in 70 Allah is telling we(muslims) the believers that, he knows best those that should be burnt, and 71 tells us that we muslims are not one of them, but we shall pass over it(hell), then who are best known by Allah to be burnt in blazing fire? lets read Q19:72"......and we shall leave the polytheists(including trinitarians) to their knees(in hell)" implying the people to be burnt are wrong doers and polytheist but believers shall pass over it! 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by mustymatic(m): 11:29pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:LOL Hope you get customers after you convince them that you are not an idol worshipper (worshiping a creature) ..I wish you could explain to us who d bible Mary worshipped, did she worship her own son whom she gave birth to and gave breast milk to Or the god of Jesus? Christianity = Idolatry 2 Likes |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Demmzy15(m): 11:30pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
This girl, what do you gain in being dumb? Why do this? |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 11:32pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Demmzy15(m): 11:42pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:Very short and precise! Lemme see what she'll say now! 1 Like |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by maverickboy: 11:54pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
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The earlire u know, the more ur chances of recovery... 1 Like |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by proo212(m): 12:42am On Sep 04, 2015 |
Sahih International Muhsin Khan Pickthall Yusuf Ali Shakir Dr. Ghali Tafsir Al-Jalalayn Tafsir Ibn Kathir Guys, why are we playing words (translation)? Even your scholars concur that muslims will be in Hell until they are saved. You dont need to refute my, you should ask Al-Jalalayn and Ibn Kathir (who are native Arabic speakers by the way to explain better. 2 Likes |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 5:35am On Sep 04, 2015 |
proo212:that is the main problem that caused misconception in christianity, allowing the so called "native speakers" of greek/hebrews to translate the bible for you. i gave you the wordings that meant "but pass over it(hell)" and even gave other verses to make that verse 71 more meaningful, anyway, i translated everything myself, and i think yusuf ali's translation is similar to mine! and out of your blind copying and pasting you gave ibn kathir commentary(his translation is also similar to mine), where in his commentary did he say ALL muslims will be the ones to burn in hell? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 6:08am On Sep 04, 2015 |
@proo212, let me summarise ibn kathir comments for you; "but pass over it(hell)" means the path to heaven will be so narrow that only the true believers will pass over it, the next verse now makes us to understand that; those who were believers but commited majors sins that outweighed their good deeds, will burn because of the narrowness of the path(the major sins will slow them down) but later will be saved because they believed in Allah, just that they commited major sins that OUTWEIGHED their good deeds, which needs temporary punishments(Allah is ever just, and that is the reality). after these, then the polytheists(trinitarians inclusive) will burn without any intercessor! ibn kathir never said all muslims must enter hell first, then will be saved as you and your cohorts are falsely claiming. i still recommend you carefully peruse ibn kathir's comment which you gave, and you will grasp what i'm saying and as such wont accuse me of making things up. |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Rilwon: 6:20am On Sep 04, 2015 |
Recycled trash. This useless thread had been debunked times without number.. Do you want link? 3 Likes |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 6:23am On Sep 04, 2015 |
Rilwon:subhanallah! really? pls give us the link, to save me the stress. though i have debunked it here also with a short and precise refutal, only that it is too hard for these people to stomach! |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Rilwon: 6:27am On Sep 04, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: https://www.nairaland.com/2314493/why-muslims-not-afraid-death 1 Like |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 6:28am On Sep 04, 2015 |
Rilwon:jazaka Allaah khairan 1 Like |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by guynupe(m): 10:07am On Sep 04, 2015 |
pneumaticos:and if am a christian? |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by CivilzedTyger(m): 11:41am On Sep 04, 2015 |
Op May God Humilliate U 4 Dis... |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 1:46pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
CivilzedTyger:which one is that God or allah because if you are talking about allah , I have been urinating on allah since 6ad. Ahahah toothless allah. |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 1:52pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:do you know why mohmMAD informed you about the hell in the first place is because eventually if you end up like this straight forward in hell , then you will be expecting mohamMAD to come and saves you there but the surprise will be that mohmMAD will be on his kneel with heavy iron on his head ahahahhah. Change before is too late. |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 2:05pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
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Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 3:06pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:who be goat? You or mohamMAD. 2 Likes |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 3:31pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
jcross19:you quoting me again without saying anything reasonable shows you are goat, infact a very old one at that, with very long beards! |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Princewell2012(m): 3:38pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
@OP, Why are you miss interpreting the quaran? why dont you look for a moslem scholar to help you, or what did you intent to gain in doing these.? Now in case you want to learn, The opposite of heaven is hell. The opposite of life is dead. When man ate the forbidden fruit, man died automatically. God can never lie. HE told Adam any day you eat of that fruit you will surely die. But the devil received him that he will not die. Man is living yet man is dead, another name for dead is hell. even if man live for 1000 years man is still dead. any man born of woman is dead, This spirit of man will go to a place called hell. which means land of for dead. weather you are righteous or wicked you will surely visit there. Thank God for the second Adam that redeemed us back to live. These live is the same the as heaven. PLS check my thread. The difference between hell and hell fire for a better clarification. |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 4:04pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:we don't keep beards in my church so you are the one that's a e- goat with dirty beard like mohamMAD. 1 Like |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 4:17pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
jcross19:another reason why i said you are goat, goats are annoying and very stubborn. you are exhibiting that very act! |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 4:26pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:ahahhahah that's the reason you are zombie. |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
jcross19:thank God you know. |
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by proo212(m): 4:59pm On Sep 04, 2015 |
@Lexiconkabir, you still havent clarified this verses and the tafsirs (No one of the Muslims who has had three children, who all died, will be touched by the Hellfire, except for an oath that must be fulfilled.) `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam commented on Allah's statement, Are we saying if a muslim has no children, 1 child or 2 children, he will go to hell? (There is not one of you but will pass over it) "The passing of the Muslims (over the Hellfire) means their passing over a bridge that is over it. But the passing of the idolators over the Hellfire refers to their admission to the Fire.'' As-Suddi reported from Murrah, from Ibn Mas`ud, that he said concerning Allah's statement, (this is with your Lord; a Hatman decree.) "An oath that must be fulfilled.'' Mujahid said, "Hatman means preordainment.'' Ibn Jurayj said the same. Concerning Allah's statement, (Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. ) When all of the creatures passed over the Hellfire, and those disbelievers and the disobedient people who are destined to fall into it because of their disobedience, Allah will save the believers and the righteous people from it because of their deeds. Therefore, their passing over the bridge and their speed will be based upon their deeds that they did in this life. Then, the believers who performed major sins will be allowed intercession. Where are these people saved from? Where were they before they are saved? Please explain The angels, the Prophets and the believers will all intercede. Thus, a large number of the sinners will be allowed to come out of Hell. The fire will have devoured much of their bodies, except the places of prostration on their faces. So, some will be in hell then if the fire has devoured much of their bodies except signs of prostration Why are the angels and believers interceding? Why will some come out of hell after intercession? Will you be one of those interceding or will you be one of those who will come out hell after intercession? Please clarify Their removal from the Hellfire will be due to the faith in their hearts. The first to come out will be he who has the weight of a Dinar of faith in his heart. Then, whoever has the next least amount after him. Then, whoever is next to that after him, and so forth. This will continue until the one who has the tiniest hint of faith in his heart, equal to the weight of an atom. Then, Allah will take out of the Fire whoever said "La ilaha illallah,'' even one day of his entire life, even if he never performed any good deed. After this, no one will remain in the Hellfire, except those it is obligatory upon to remain in the Hellfire forever. This means they will be in it before they are taken out of it!!! This has been reported in many authentic Hadiths from the Messenger of Allah . This is why Allah says, (Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. And We shall leave the wrongdoers in it, Jithyya.) This is your most trusted tafsir. If Ibn Kathir says they will be saved from it and like I explained before, he is a native Arabic speaker, you’re only deceiving yourself with the excuse of translation. Another thing, what then do you make of these hadiths? Sahih Muslim Book 037, Hadith Number 6665. So which is it? Will Allah just have mercy and replace a muslim with a jew or Christian in hell or will he just have mercy because of the faith in the hearts of the muslims or because they said La ilaha illallah once in their life? Please explain |
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