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How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Nobody: 8:11am On Sep 12, 2015 |
[b]THE rivalry between the Fulani and Afonja descendants over the throne of Ilorin is rooted in history. http://www.ilorin.info/fullnews.php?id=10472 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Haywhymido(m): 9:16am On Sep 12, 2015 |
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Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by fratermathy(m): 9:35am On Sep 12, 2015 |
This history of Ilorin is one of the most relevant cases of political hegemony(by the Fulanis) and cultural superimposition (by the Yoruba). To be frank, Ilorin and Kwara as a whole is a typical Islamic northern state and the emirate is well in place. What I think should be done is to create another monarchy for the Yoruba to be headed by an Oba of Afonja descent. This new monarch will be graded on the same level with the emir and boundaries will be reached. The new Oba must not be a Muslim so as not to cause religious tension. The second way to undo this mishap is to divide Kwara State into two states viz Oya state for the Yoruba of Kwara south and central and a true Kwara or Edu state for the fulani and nupe. Funny enough, even the so called fulanis in Ilorin speak yoruba and most likely can't speak fufulde. So much for a country named Nigeria where even those who speak same language don't accept each other because of what their ancestors did and who they were. What will now happen to those of different ethnic extractions? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by fratermathy(m): 9:36am On Sep 12, 2015 |
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Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Nobody: 10:15am On Sep 12, 2015 |
Fratermathy, The Afonja 'clan' itself is heavily Muslim. If my sources are correct, 99% of Afonja's descendants in Ilorin are Muslims. That would make your suggestion of a non-Muslim Afonja-descended Oba impracticable. Also, when/if an Afonja-descended Obaship is created, how do you draw the geographical boundary between the realm of this Oba and the realm of the Emir as you suggested? Do the Ilorinians of Yoruba descent and the Ilorinians of Fulani descent live in exclusive territorial quarters of their own that would make this division of domains feasible? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Viktor1983(m): 11:11am On Sep 12, 2015 |
Where's my glasses? |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Jetjacky(m): 11:37am On Sep 12, 2015 |
fratermathy:please... give me an abridged version of the original post |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by derrick333(m): 12:01pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
Fulani always dominating oda pipo land. |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by macof(m): 12:08pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
Radoillo: Yes fulani descendants have their quaters, Popo gambari being the main one 1 Like |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by fratermathy(m): 12:17pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
Radoillo: The issue of Muslim and non - Muslim is easily resolvable if geographical boundaries can be properly set. I think that certain quarters in Ilorin with a higher quota of Afonja - yoruba aborigines should be forfeited by the emirate to form an 'Obaship'. Another way to solve this problem is to institute rotational emirship from the ruling houses. If this is feasible, the descendents of Afonja maybe pacified. 1 Like |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by fratermathy(m): 12:23pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
Jetjacky: Abridged: Afonja and Alimi entered into an agreement to fight the Alaafin of Oyo. When the war was won, Afonja made Alimi his children's teacher. When an emirate was setup under the Sokoto caliphate, the children of Alimi hoarded the post and have since produced emirs in a town where they were once strangers. Alimi himself was a Fulani nomad and a descendent of Uthman Dan Fodio. The Yoruba are now complaining that they are tired of Fulani domination in their land and have engaged in a series of protests over the years to state their anguish. So now, we are trying to find a solution to the problem. Hope it's short enough for you now? |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Jetjacky(m): 12:41pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
fratermathy:lol okkies |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Nobody: 12:51pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
macof: Good. That leaves the second problem - finding enough non-Muslim Afonja descendants for the type of Obaship Fratermathy is suggesting. 1 Like |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by Nobody: 1:02pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
In any case, the Yoruba elements in Ilorin are full participants in the administration of the town, holding some of the most important titles. We sometimes make it seem like the Fulani elements are calling all the shots - and they are not. The Balogun titles, for example, are very key titles, the Baloguns being (probably) only second to the Emir in the amount of power they wield. Yet, two of the Balogun titles are reserved for the Yoruba elements and only one for the Fulani. The power structure in the city appears to be so intricately interwoven that to try to split the town politically along the 'ethnic' lines might not work. And if not for us Africans being who we are, I don't understand how a dynasty that has ruled a Yoruba town for almost 200 years, diluted their Fulani blood with Yoruba blood to the point of insignificance, speaks Yoruba as their first language, has retained practically no vestige of Fulani culture, would be considered anything but Yoruba. Just my thoughts though. 2 Likes |
Re: How The Yorubas Lost The Ilorin Throne To The Fulanis by macof(m): 1:52pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
Radoillo: Another problem is. .. The palace of the Shehu(as he is called) is at the center of Yoruba dwelling. . Does he move his palace? I think one thing people don't realize is that the Ilorin problem comes from later fulani settlers not the original fulani families that are descended from Alimi..because as far as I know Abdulsalami's appointment as head of the city was supported by the Yoruba Muslims(Afonja might have been betrayed by the fulani but the yoruba muslims didn't care)...his descendants are still styled "Shehu" I think meaning teacher. .Islamic teacher How do the very muslim yorubas begin to create another title that will pretty much make no difference (other than splitting the city on ethnic lines of course)...this new leader will still be an Islamic figure and not a real Oba |
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